Author Topic: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
Louie 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 1:14pm Subject: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
I just bought the boxed set of the trilogy. I was pretty excited but the cgi looked bogus. I had not seen the new redone version (i have only had my old vhs set). What's the deal some of the remastered and new cgi things were pretty cool but I thought most of it just looked out of place. Is it just me or are puppets way better than animation?

 

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Adm_Thrawn  4008 posts
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 1:26pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original? - Date Edited: 3/29/05 1:27pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Adm_Thrawn
It is better by far.
Who wants to see a puppet Sy Snootles?

 

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Louie 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 1:33pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
for some reason i guess that i just prefer the originals. I hate to say that the animation looks fake, especially when comparing them to the puppets, but i do like them better. Some of the shots in ROTJ just look out of place. Like at Jabba's palace with that alien thing singing. I seem to remember liking it when the puppet was singing better. Maybe its just because they didn't include any crazy shots where they zoom the camera right up to the mouth.
Any thoughts?

 

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solojones  33567 posts
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 1:34pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
*shrug* Both puppets and animation of living things look fake to me. I've just tried to live with it either way. I enjoy the OT better if I don't get worked up about it. I don't like CGI creatures, but on the other hand, I'd much rather have a really nice, new-looking picture. I own both versions so it just depends on my mood when I decide which to watch.

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Obi-Ewan  3829 posts
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 1:40pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
Overall, I prefer the originals. The major, computer-generated changes stand out quite a bit, and most don't impress me. Giving credit where it's due, however, I have to say I do like the parts where matte lines have been removed. Most noticeably around the rancor. But I also like the fact that was all they changed: they didn't put in a computer generated rancor, or otherwise alter the scene.

 

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emilsson  19309 posts
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 1:54pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
I too prefer the original version. I don't mind the animations in themselves, it's just that the mix between puppets and animation makes them more obvious.

Also, I think a few extended or added scenes disturb the pacing of the movies, especially the added Vader's shuttle leaving Bespin-sequence and the "improved" music scene in Jabba's palace.

Still I watch the DVD edition because the sound and image quality is so much better than on my old VHS copies.

 

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Jediknight_Wendy  136 posts
Registered: Feb '05
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 1:57pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
i orginally grew up with the non speical editions and loved them..then the special editions came out and i still like them and even perfer them more i liked the cleaned up look alot more i think star wars was alot more deserveing of it alot of people complain about the small musical number in return of the jedi i honestly enjoyed it ..it was always intended to be there and a really butchered version was in the non speical editions puppet Sy Snootles looked horrid now she really came to live dureing the small duet with the DVD release about the only thing i can really complain about is the changeing of boba's voice..i mean dont get me wrong it makes sense his voice would sound like jango's the clone troopers and such but i just always got attachted to the old boba voice '' Put capitan solo in the cargo hold'' just sounds a bit alien to me with Temuera Morrison however oddly i love his voice for jango and the clone troopers..i suppose it will just have to grow on me .so long story short i love the changes and the cleaned up versions happy

 

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Anakin_Darth_Vader 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 2:06pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original? - Date Edited: 3/29/05 2:08pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Anakin_Darth_Vader
The animations are fake in the new special editions. I had rented all the movies to see what I thought about them after a few years, and it's nothing like I remember. It was better back then. Besides that, the originals are always the best.

 

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MilleniumSlave  83 posts
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 2:30pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
Who wants to see a puppet Sy Snootles?

I do.

 

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Adm_Thrawn  4008 posts
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 2:34pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
Eeew.

 

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anidanami124  11800 posts
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 2:40pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
I like the OT and the OT:SE. I like the OT becasue it was what I first watched. I like the OT:SE becasue it let me see the OT on the big screen for the first time after years of seeing it on the small screen.

 

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Louie 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 2:47pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
I have heard that the OT theme was a used universe. But in episodes I, II, and III everything looks brand new. I guess i just like things looking used and lived in. It make for a more believable galaxy. Why didn't they do that for the first three episodes? or maybe they did, i might just be missing it.

 

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Devilanse  5148 posts
Registered: May '02
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 2:51pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
My name is Shake-Zula, the mic rulah, schoolah, you wanna trip, I'll break it to ya.

PROPER LYRICS:

"My name is....Shake-Zula...the mike rula...the old schoola...you wanna trip...I'll bring it to ya..."

Sorry...had to get that out of the way...

Ok...as for the topic...

WARNING: INFORMED OPINION THAT YOU MAY NOT WANT TO READ

In my book...the OT DVD set was a complete slap in the face to all the old school fans who made Lucas the rich bastard he is today.

All this "But Lucas financed the movies himself....he never needed anyone...its HIS vision...blah blah.." talk burns me up.

Sure...the movies belong to him...but only one thing made Star Wars the success it is....people plunking down their cash to buy tickets.

Now...he thinks the OT was "half-finished"...good for him. He wants to make changes? Go for it. If he wants to digitally remove Darth Vader and insert Bill Gates...he's more than welcome to do so.

But...as a gesture to his ORIGINAL fans. The ones who made him the cinematic demi-god he is today...he should have included the non-SE versions in his DVD set.

But, thats just one person's opinion.

 

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mrfootball  344 posts
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 2:52pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
it makes it more intense, yes, but i still enjoy seeing the real puppets. but the added mos eisly stuff and jabba's pallace is ten times better

 

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Adm_Thrawn  4008 posts
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 2:53pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original? - Date Edited: 3/29/05 2:54pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Adm_Thrawn
Hey, I got those lyrics off of the official ATHF website Devilanse.

 

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basiclee 
Registered: Jul '04
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Date Posted: 3/29/05 2:58pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
I don't feel the changes have improved the films in anyway, but nor have they degraded the quality, to me, they're still the same films, I think the CGI looks out of place alot of the time, but I just ignore it.

What does bother me is how some changes that should be made haven't, such as Luke's Lightsaber in A New Hope. The only change that does bother me, is Greedo shooting first, and that's because it's done so poorly.

 

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