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Warsie Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 4/4/06 5:55am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	Hmmm, Labryinth of Evil mentions that the ARC-170 Clone pilots naturally protect each other, due to their Mandalorian genes (protecting their comrades) -----signature----- I am a Star Wars Fan http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
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Warsie Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 4/4/06 6:02am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	Sinrebirth posted: A squadron of Clone troopers could recruit on a planet and cause a massive uprisings on Malastare, Giju, etc. Not a lot, for those worlds forcibly taken by the CIS, possible but soem of those worlds would consider themselved liberated by the CIS, and there are those worlds that are solidly Separatist -----signature----- I am a Star Wars Fan http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
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AdmiralWesJanson Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 4/4/06 6:23am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	Warsie posted: Hmmm, Labryinth of Evil mentions that the ARC-170 Clone pilots naturally protect each other, due to their Mandalorian genes (protecting their comrades) I'm pretty sure being Mandolorian is more of a social choice, not a genetic condition...at least the modern Mandos. -----signature----- Duke of Corellia Join the Corellian Browncoats in their fight against the evil Alliance! Fix the K-Wing! No more XJs! Make the next X-Wing a T-65K!
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razzy1319 Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 4/4/06 6:56am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	Back on topic. According to the an earlier post, it has to do with a current issue. Since the only current event right now that might have something in common with the clone wars is the iraq war, anyone have any idea which of the following issues has parallels with the clone war numbers? Is it the limited troops the generals were complaining about? Im unaware of other issues so please feel free to bring one up... Also, I remember an old post by the author saying that it was something to do with a politician being able to control the outcome of the war even if he wasnt in control of only both sides. -----signature----- In Space No One Can Hear Your Scream, Except For The BattleCry Of A Galactic Marine -Fictional BattleCry My Kind Weren't Made To Kneel -Fictional Clone Trooper Worst Admin Ever - http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/User:WhiteBoy/Kuralyov
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MarcusP2 Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 4/4/06 8:19am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	AdmiralWesJanson posted: Warsie posted: Hmmm, Labryinth of Evil mentions that the ARC-170 Clone pilots naturally protect each other, due to their Mandalorian genes (protecting their comrades) I'm pretty sure being Mandolorian is more of a social choice, not a genetic condition...at least the modern Mandos. Especially considering Jango was a loner so they had to take that out...any 'teamwork genes' would have to be added in. Though how protecting your comrades is a genetic trait is beyond me. Ah. No, I don't have instant messaging. I lack the time to finish Shadows of Amm as it is. I'm up to the drow undercity. Still? Hurry up, man! -----signature----- Darth Revan Fan Club: Technical Specialist Uncle Eddie was my favourite wrestler Gentle Giant owns my bank account.
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MercenaryAce Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 4/4/06 1:59pm Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	" I wouldn't mind saying the clones were in reality a tiny, tiny fraction of the entire military and functioned as elite marines (much like Stormtroopers), if the entire EU hadn't already portrayed them as the backbone of the entire Republic military. They're soldiers, sailers, engineers, pilots, quartermasters, everything. Plus, if clones are only .001% of the military, then why call it the Clone War? " 1) Well, whenever we hear senators and stuff talk about the clone wars, they talk as if they are losing, despite the fact the Jedi and Clones almost always win. Maybe most of the war conists of planetary malitias being steam rolled by the Sep. Juggernaught while the J&C just try to react. 2) Wars have had inccorect names before. The 100 years war was longer than 100 years (112 I think). the French and Indian war was not fought between French and Indians. On a side note, my thought the Clone Wars were actualy named after the droids, who were all the same (somehow in AOTC and ROTJ she missed the clones being clones). Anyway, maybe they were called the Clone Wars because both sides relied on identical mass produced soldiers. -----signature----- "I am no man...I am a space station!" Another star wars ships, droids and troops site: http://armiesofstarwars.com/ It does have info found nowhere Move all sig, for great justice
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Bodknocks_ Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 4/4/06 2:32pm Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	The "3 million clones" thing was just a typo, there's no reason to freak out about it. It was meant to read, 3 million clowns, not clones. Once the party started, those 300 billion clones would come in and clean up where the 3 million clowns left off. -----signature----- http://boards.theforce.net/Board.aspx?brd=10417 -- The Hoosier Alliance "Believe me, buddy, if I were you, I'd go right up there and ask her if she wants to ride on my rancor." -- Han to Luke Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Twin Twi'lek Masseuses™
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RogueWompRat Registered: Feb '03	Date Posted: 4/4/06 3:20pm Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	If they're using clones as gunners for Venators, there's going to be wayyy more then 3 million. -----signature----- "the Force is between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere..."
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MercenaryAce Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 4/4/06 4:38pm Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	Bodknocks_ posted: The "3 million clones" thing was just a typo, there's no reason to freak out about it. It was meant to read, 3 million clowns, not clones. Once the party started, those 300 billion clones would come in and clean up where the 3 million clowns left off. You just wanted to use the clown icon. Admit it. -----signature----- "I am no man...I am a space station!" Another star wars ships, droids and troops site: http://armiesofstarwars.com/ It does have info found nowhere Move all sig, for great justice
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Bodknocks_ Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 4/4/06 4:54pm Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	MercenaryAce posted: You just wanted to use the clown icon. Admit it. Curses, foiled again!! -----signature----- http://boards.theforce.net/Board.aspx?brd=10417 -- The Hoosier Alliance "Believe me, buddy, if I were you, I'd go right up there and ask her if she wants to ride on my rancor." -- Han to Luke Recipient of Thrawn McEwok's Twin Twi'lek Masseuses™
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Warsie Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 4/4/06 5:08pm Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	MarcusP2 posted: Especially considering Jango was a loner so they had to take that out...any 'teamwork genes' would have to be added in. Though how protecting your comrades is a genetic trait is beyond me. Ah. No, I don't have instant messaging. I lack the time to finish Shadows of Amm as it is. I'm up to the drow undercity. Still? Hurry up, man! the last paaragraph of page Pages 94 and the beginning of page 95 on Labyrinth of Evil explains it -----signature----- I am a Star Wars Fan http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
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Ive_Got_Two_Legs Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 4/4/06 5:43pm Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	RogueWompRat posted: If they're using clones as gunners for Venators, there's going to be wayyy more then 3 million. Not just gunners from ROTS. At least three sources - the show, Obsession, and Dreadnaughts of Rendili - all show clones being used for positions in the Republic Navy that in later times would get taken by human officers. The cartoon also shows that at least one Venator was entirely crewed by clones. In fact of those, only DoR shows any human crewmembers onboard Republic ships at all, and even then it's a small fraction of the clone crew. -----signature----- "Where's your sense of optimism?" "It opted out."
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Sinrebirth Title: Sith Emperor of the SWC Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 4/4/06 6:35pm Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	Ive_Got_Two_Legs posted: RogueWompRat posted: If they're using clones as gunners for Venators, there's going to be wayyy more then 3 million. Not just gunners from ROTS. At least three sources - the show, Obsession, and Dreadnaughts of Rendili - all show clones being used for positions in the Republic Navy that in later times would get taken by human officers. The cartoon also shows that at least one Venator was entirely crewed by clones. In fact of those, only DoR shows any human crewmembers onboard Republic ships at all, and even then it's a small fraction of the clone crew. Then again, all we know is they were wearing clone armour. Doesn't automatically make them clones. Yes, ARC-170's are flown by clones, at least. Mercenary Ace, thats exactly what the Clone Wars was. A very small Republic Navy and Army running around from point-to-point, with strong points characterised by planetary navies being joined into Priority Sectors, or the fortress worlds of the Core - Duro around to Coruscant. Until Palpatine nationalised all forces within the Republic remnants and hurled them straight at the CIS, starting the Outer Rim Sieges, the Republic was just being hacked to pieces. Thats apparent from their jump from Metalorn to Coruscant, the CIS occupying over half the galaxy, and so forth. The CIS had a massive fleet to defeat the Republic, but not massive enough to subjugate the galaxy. -----signature----- Darth Insipid Proud Fan of the Tragedy of Jacen Solo Missing Chapters of Invincible; Teaser of Chapter 9.5 is up! Wes vs Tarfang, Gavin and the Coup, Luke and Jacen, and much more! http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/28933751/p3/?70
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Thrawn McEwok Title: TFN EU Staff Registered: May '00	Date Posted: 4/5/06 4:34am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound) - Date Edited: 4/5/06 4:35am (1 edits total) Edited By: Thrawn McEwok
	Sr: I'd look at it a slightly different way, actually: they could advance through territory, but they couldn't bring the Republic to decisive battle... Could you argue that the Republic fought the Clone Wars much like the Rebellion fought the Galactic Civil War? And we see several ships with non-clone command crews outside Dreadnaughts of Rendili, including Pellaeon's ship in Bloodlines and Sagoro Autem's in The Siege of Saleucami... - The Imperial Ewok -----signature----- A/T = OTP :===8[#]8===: Kyp/Jaina fans: stand up and be counted!
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Quiet_Mandalorian Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 4/5/06 6:42am Subject: RE: ODDS in Insider 87 (Controversial Issues Abound)
	Ive_Got_Two_Legs posted: In fact of those, only DoR shows any human crewmembers onboard Republic ships at all, and even then it's a small fraction of the clone crew. That should be "non-clone", to avoid confusion. Clones are still human, after all. -----signature----- Fey'la was right! Bring Asyr Sei'lar to justice!
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