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JMJacenSolo Registered: May '06	Date Posted: 6/25 2:40pm Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	Offense QB: Tom Brady, New England RB: LaDainian Tomlinson, San Diego FB: Lorenzo Neal, Cincinnati/S.D./Balt. WR: Marvin Harrison, Indianapolis WR: Torry Holt, St. Louis TE: Tony Gonzalez, Kansas City T: Walter Jones, Seattle T: Jonathan Ogden, Baltimore G: Alan Faneca, Pittsburgh/N.Y. Jets G: Steve Hutchinson, Seattle/Minnesota C: Olin Kreutz, Chicago Defense DE: Michael Strahan, N.Y. Giants, DT: Warren Sapp, Tampa Bay/Oakland DT: Kris Jenkins, Carolina/N.Y. Jets DE: Jason Taylor, Miami/Washington LB: Derrick Brooks, Tampa Bay LB: Ray Lewis, Baltimore LB: Brian Urlacher, Chicago CB: Champ Bailey, Washington/Denver CB: Troy Vincent: Phil./Mia./Buff./Wash. S: Ed Reed, Baltimore S: Troy Polamalu, Pittsburgh Thoughts? Quite a few no-brainers on the list, obviously. I would go with Dawkins over Polamalu, since Dawkins actually played the entire decade, but Polamalu's been a bigger playmaker. I also don't agree with Moss's exclusion from the list just because he spent two years in exile...funny, ESPN voted Moss the second best wide-receiver of all time about a year ago, and they don't even put him on the all-decade team. -----signature----- Man kann die Vergangenheit nicht ändern
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Trimaj Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 6/25 3:13pm Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	actually, the reason they chose holt is because he was so consistent over the entire decade. no one was more consistent at WR than holt. no one. not marvin harrison, not terrel owens, not randy moss, not ANYONE. i definitely agree with holt over moss on that front. no contest. and i'd take dawkins over polamalu as well, for the decade team. otherwise there's really nothing to dispute on the list. :snoopy -----signature----- Love comes in spurts. ~ Murphy's 51st Law of Sex Sex is one of the nine reasons for reincarnation; the other eight are unimportant.~ Murphy's 53rd Law of Sex
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KnightWriter Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 6/25 4:25pm Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	I'd have gone with Anquan Boldin as the second receiver. Fastest ever to 500 receptions and one of the toughest players in the league. If you need yards after the catch, Boldin's the receiver to get them. I've seen him run straight through just about every type of defensive player. -----signature----- Opposing Scrooge Economics since 2009
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JMJacenSolo Registered: May '06	Date Posted: 6/25 5:38pm Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	Tough or not, Boldin has only managed two full 16 game seasons in his six year career. -----signature----- Man kann die Vergangenheit nicht ändern
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JEDIGUNSHIP Title: C&G Game Host Registered: May '08	Date Posted: 6/25 5:40pm Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	I think that the list is pretty good as it is. -----signature----- Blue and yellow make a green lightsaber. How do you get red out of blue? Council Member in the New Jedi Trials/ Commander-in-Chief of the Rebel Alliance Addicted to Rock Band 2 and Proud of It! SWC Secret Rebel '09 Band Geek For Life!
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s65horsey Title: EUC and Arena Moddess SW RSA Registered: Jun '06	Date Posted: 6/25 6:52pm Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	I, of course, object to Brady as the QB but that doesn't surprise anyone. -----signature----- Corran Horn is mine. Get used to it. One of Hammer's Angels Has reverted to being a 14 yr old. YAY JOBROS and TWILIGHT! Just laugh at it.
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Trimaj Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 6/25 7:10pm Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	i'll agree with you that it's debateable sey. it basically comes down the SB ring and stats. personall i'd take peyton as well, but i can't really compain THAT much about it. and boldin... just no. he's good, but doens' even match up to moss or owens, much less holt. he was literally the model of consistency from 00-08. more yards, more TDs, more catches. that's hard to overcome. :snoopy -----signature----- Love comes in spurts. ~ Murphy's 51st Law of Sex Sex is one of the nine reasons for reincarnation; the other eight are unimportant.~ Murphy's 53rd Law of Sex
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KnightWriter Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 6/25 7:12pm Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team - Date Edited: 6/25 7:14pm (1 edits total) Edited By: KnightWriter
	Brady's the best quarterback of his generation. Sorry, Peyton. Larry Fitzgerald's better than any of them, but he'll most likely not end up on any particular team, unless it's an all-time one. I'd take him over anyone in the history of the game, with the possible exception of Jerry Rice. Rice changed the way defenses are played and Fitzgerald does the same. Pittsburgh was geared to stop him, but failed to do so at two critical times in the Super Bowl. It almost cost them the title. -----signature----- Opposing Scrooge Economics since 2009
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Trimaj Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 6/25 7:32pm Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	fitz has done it for one year at that particularly level. let him do it a few more, and he may make the next all decade team. i wouldn't be surprised in the least. and i'd take jerry over fitz. fitz is number two, unless last year was a fluke, but it's really not that close to me. :snoopy -----signature----- Love comes in spurts. ~ Murphy's 51st Law of Sex Sex is one of the nine reasons for reincarnation; the other eight are unimportant.~ Murphy's 53rd Law of Sex
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KnightWriter Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 6/25 7:56pm Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	Fitzgerald's career is going to straddle two decades, and he won't play in a majority of either decade, at least not at his best. -----signature----- Opposing Scrooge Economics since 2009
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Trimaj Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 6/25 8:01pm Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	i said it wouldn't surprise me, doesn't mean it's likely. calvin johnson seems far more likely at this point. maybe roddy white, or someone else like that. :snoopy -----signature----- Love comes in spurts. ~ Murphy's 51st Law of Sex Sex is one of the nine reasons for reincarnation; the other eight are unimportant.~ Murphy's 53rd Law of Sex
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Armenian_Jedi Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 6/27 7:47am Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	Trimaj posted: fitz has done it for one year at that particularly level. let him do it a few more, and he may make the next all decade team. i wouldn't be surprised in the least. and i'd take jerry over fitz. fitz is number two, unless last year was a fluke, but it's really not that close to me. :snoopy Just because the national coverage on Fitzgerald started gaining some heat this past season doesn't mean he's been playing at this level for only one year. Take it from someone who's been watching him since his first game in the NFL, Fitzgerald has been doing this since day one. He just completed his fifth season and he already has more 1,400 yard receiving seasons then Terrell Owens, Steve Smith, Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Tim Brown, etc. Barring injury, Larry Fitzgerald will finish his a career a top two wide receiver of all time. Whether he's number one or two will depend on people's opinions and if they really want to let go of the safe pick of Jerry Rice. -----signature----- 4-8-15-16-23-42 ~Member of One Mic~
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DRHJ9 Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 6/27 9:50am Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team - Date Edited: 6/27 9:53am (1 edits total) Edited By: DRHJ9
	Armenian_Jedi posted: He just completed his fifth season and he already has more 1,400 yard receiving seasons then Terrell Owens, Steve Smith, Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Tim Brown, etc. Barring injury, Larry Fitzgerald will finish his a career a top two wide receiver of all time. Whether he's number one or two will depend on people's opinions and if they really want to let go of the safe pick of Jerry Rice. It is way early in his career to say Fitz will be number 2 or 1. Take who I think are top two, Jerry Rice and Tim Brown. Jerry Rice's rings and numbers speak for themselves. But take a great player like Tim Brown. You mention Fitzgerald's first five years.....lets see how many 1100 or 1200 yd seasons Fitzgerald has after the age of 32 or 33. Tim Brown was great after his first five years, and managed to be an impact player up untill his last season with Tampa. I think his last season in Oakland he had 900 yds at the age of 36 or 37. Tim Brown also finished his career 2nd in yardage, 3rd in receptions, and had over 100 TD's. Injury and wear and tear, are part of the game. Jerry and Tim both had knee injuries, and lost speed. But both managed to change their game to stay great. In 2002, gone were the days of being a deep threat, for both. But they each managed a 1100+ tard season at 35-36 years old. It is easy to project a players stats based on numbers they put up now. But lets see when Fitzgerald loses a step, and cant heal as fast...what kind of numbers will he put up? -----signature----- " If you beat me.....I'm still the best"-Paul Newman," The Hustler" "I saw a guy lying there with an ankle holster. So I took the gun. Thought it might come in handy. And guess what? I SHOT A BEAR!"-Sawyer, "Lost"
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Trimaj Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 6/27 7:57pm Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	uhh... no i stand by what i said about fitz. has he played amazing his entire career so far? yes. i don't dispute that, not even a little bit. but NOW he doesn't do things like run out of bounds, he fights for ever single inch he can get. that is a fairly drastic change, as he used to just go down after he caught the ball. he's only been fighting and pushing as hard as he can for ONE season. that is what takes one to the next level, and if he keeps that up with his talent he MIGHT be the number two of all time, but beating rice will take something very special and i just don't think he has it. -----signature----- Love comes in spurts. ~ Murphy's 51st Law of Sex Sex is one of the nine reasons for reincarnation; the other eight are unimportant.~ Murphy's 53rd Law of Sex
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KnightWriter Title: Administrator Emeritus Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 6/27 9:19pm Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	He has what it takes to equal Rice. Larry Fitzgerald cannot be defended if he's going all out and has a good quarterback throwing him the ball. Even at full extension, most defenders can't get high enough to bat the ball away from him. I remember several plays last season where he was double and triple teamed and it didn't matter a bit. -----signature----- Opposing Scrooge Economics since 2009
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DRHJ9 Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 6/28 11:34am Subject: ESPN.com NFL All-Decade Team
	KnightWriter: That is the point. Fitz has what it takes now.... But what happens when he loses a step, just like all the greats before him? Tim Brown, Jerry Rice, and Marvin Harrison are players who found a way to be great, after the age of 31-32. There is too much IF involved right now to say Fitz will perform well enough at the end of his career, to equal the kind of number those three have. When you lose a step, you have to be a GREAT rout runner. The three player I have mentioned, are the best of all time in running precise routs. If L Fitz can do that....he just might be top 2 or 3. -----signature----- " If you beat me.....I'm still the best"-Paul Newman," The Hustler" "I saw a guy lying there with an ankle holster. So I took the gun. Thought it might come in handy. And guess what? I SHOT A BEAR!"-Sawyer, "Lost"
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