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Stormtrooper_Shrink Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 3/7/04 4:26pm Subject: Question: music in star wars
	Anybody know any musical instruments in Star Wars? I've heard of a couple, but I have no idea what they are, or look like. Would it be okay to use a piano in a fanfic, or what is a suitable substitute? And while we're on it, are there any human languages in Star Wars other than "Basic" (English)? If I'm going to use a piano, I'd have to use Italian terms. Is this acceptable, or to be vetoed? Someone who knows, please help.
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Dev_Binks Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 3/7/04 4:31pm Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars
	I think that most other human languags are like Latin, they're dead, unless it's some backwards planet with no contact to the rest of the galaxy. And yeah, Italian would probably be fine, just as long as it sounds Star Warsy. -----signature----- "There will be pages. Lots and lots of pages. Most of them will have letters on them, and the vast majority of those letters will be in the roman alphabet." -Aaron Allston
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DarkDroid Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 3/7/04 4:37pm Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars
	There's plenty of instruments shown in RotJ in Jabba's Palace scene. Max Rebo (the blue elephant alien) was playing a piano-like instrument. -----signature----- The Inglorious Vision - http://boards.theforce.net/Beyond_the_Saga/b10477/20960324/?2 Far Beyond - http://boards.theforce.net/Beyond_the_Saga/b10477/17625892/?0
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DantanaSkywalker Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Apr '02	Date Posted: 3/7/04 4:55pm Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars
	And while we're on it, are there any human languages in Star Wars other than "Basic" (English)? Yeah, there are several. There's Hapan (in COPL, Leia's surprised when Isolder speaks Basic), the Dathomiri have a language . . . I can't remember any more off the top of my head, but they're out there. Dana -----signature----- http://www.kypandjaina.net "I always liked Kyp Durron better, anyway." -- Han Solo H.A.L. 1979-2008. An saol seo, gui duit an saol eile. Congrats, babe. Hope you're still laughing, wherever you are.
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Stormtrooper_Shrink Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 3/7/04 6:21pm Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars - Date Edited: 3/7/04 6:23pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Stormtrooper_Shrink
	So what's the piano thing called? EDIT: And thanks for the info on languages, but I sort of meant "Earth" "human" languages, if you know what I mean. Any more info, guys?
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Ty-gon Jinn Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 3/7/04 8:50pm Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars
	I'd say it's fine to use another Earth language and call it an alien tongue. I've used some of the very tiny French I know used in Swings in Roundabouts, and I name all the ships of my Shadows of Conflict in Latin. (It's said that the Huttese spoken by Greedo is psuedo-Japanese anyway.) Oh, and what's this I hear about Latin being "dead"? LINGUA LATINA VIVIT! (The Latin Language Lives!) And if you don't believe me, go dig up the "Ghastly Fiction Challenge" thread. Latin rocks, and as long as I'm around, it lives on... -----signature----- I'm alive! And I'm back!! Who'd have thought it, eh? Assassination: http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=14787030 The Cost of Honor: http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=13443744
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Stormtrooper_Shrink Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 3/7/04 9:09pm Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars
	Good stuff, Ty-gon. Still want to know about the piano... Oh, what the hell, I'm using a piano. Nobody can come up with a better substitute with technology because then it just gets dingly. Thanks, Ty...The Italian will be some obscure language.
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Ty-gon Jinn Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 3/7/04 9:16pm Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars
	Yeah, I'd use "keyboard" or something of the like. But, then again, I'm infamous for using Earth terms... Coffee, tea... One time I used "Scotch" but added a note saying it was "translated from the Basic word that we would find nonsensical; it's practically the same thing" the way Tolkien would have done. Of course, I've gone even further... in The Past Rediscovered, I quoted Shakespeare and called it The Tragedie of Hamlet, Prince of Dantooine. -----signature----- I'm alive! And I'm back!! Who'd have thought it, eh? Assassination: http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=14787030 The Cost of Honor: http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=13443744
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RogueSticks Title: 7th JC House Cup - Winner Slytherin Registered: Feb '03	Date Posted: 3/8/04 2:56am Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars - Date Edited: 3/8/04 12:33pm (2 edits total) Edited By: RogueSticks
	Ahhh this is right up my alley. I LOVE the musicians in Star Wars. The keybed is probably the closet thing to a piano. Maybe the Nalargon too. The Nalargon is more organ like than piano like though. The touchboard would be a more interesting piano like instrument. And are you ready for this? Bandfill a musical instrument. Bass Viol a musical instrument used in most jizz bands, the bass viol produced a deep, resonating sound. Bass Vye this was a musical instrument, played whenever a deep, resonant bass is needed in a song or instrumental piece. It was popular among dusk players during the height of the New Order. Bontormian Klesplong this complex, musical instrument was formed from a Xloff horn, a Troomic sound tube, and a Plandl horn. A cymbal and a radion modulator could be added to give it a more unique sounds. Bosphon Geddy a complex musical instrument developed by the Bosphs. Bottom Viol a musical instrument in the same family as the double viol, but with a much deeper sound. It produced musical with a combination of five strings and a collection of buttons which lined its upright neck. Chidinkalu a Kitonak musical instrument formed from the hollowed-out reeds of the chidinka plant. Chin-harp a musical instrument developed by the Weequay,the chin-harp uses a specially-activated chord hammer to create sounds. Chordokeylo a musical instrument which can be modified via the addition of tonal datacards to play different types of music. Talon Karrde gave one to young Valin Horn as a birthday present. Clak Beepbox a musical instrument developed on Clak'Dor VII by the Bith, and often found in jizz bands. Dorenian Beshniquel a musical instrument, often referred to as a Fizzz, the Dorenian Beshniquel was a short, single-reed wind instrument. Double Viol this stringed musical instrument is formed from a pair of hollow, resonating boxes that are separated by shaft. This shaft is strung with tonal cords which are plucked or strummed to produce music. Fanfar a musical instrument. Flagn Horn this musical instrument was often used by bards, as its unique sound complimented the spoken word. Gasan String Drum a musical instrument played by Figrin D'an. H'kig Chime this musical instrument was known for its sharp ring. Jangler a musical instrument often used in marching bands. Jizz-box a musical instrument. Karmova Drum this musical instrument was a round, domed, drum. KeyBed this musical instrument resembled a piano with black, green, and white keys. Kloo Horn a musical wind instrument, larger than a Dorenian Beshniquel, and with a double reed. It has richer, more pastel harmonics than the Beshniquel, although some have described it as having a deep hooting sound. Ludurian nose flutes an unusual musical instrument. Lute-pipe this is a musical instrument that it alternately strummed and blown. Mandoviol a stringed musical instrument. Melodium a musical instrument played by Talon Kaarde. Mintri this tall, reedy plant is found at the edges of the swamps of Naboo. Hollowed-out mintri reeds are used by the Gungans as musical instruments, dart blowers, and straws. Mist-horn this spiralled horn could be hollowed out for use as a musical instrument. The Jedi Master Tionne also used a mist-horn as the handle for her lightsaber. Mood Synthesizer this musical instrument is often found in jizz bands. Mozz Box this was a musical instrument which was developed by the jizz wailers of the New Order. Nalargon this large musical instrument was operated by a keyboard and foot pedals. It had a great many pipes and subharmonic resonators that produced a multitude of sounds, which were considered soothing to many humanoid species. The instrument was favored by many jizz bands throughout the galaxy. Ommni Box a device which can alter the tones and sounds of musical instruments. It takes a great deal of aural sensitivity, coupled with intense concentration and analytic ability, to manage the instrument. It helps attenuate and clip the music at precise tones and ranges, adding to the overall composition. It takes in the surrounding music by way of a unique, multi-level receptor dish. Peel Rod this was a specialized piece of sonic technology used to modulate the sound of a Dorenian Beshniquel, and musical instrument often used by jizz bands. Pharynx Tube a musical instrument used by the Kamarians Plandl Horn this was a large, flat horn used as a musical instrument. Ploong Sounder this was a large, round speaker that produced the sound from a bandfill, a musical instrument which was often found in jizz bands Prishti Bulb this was an unusual, globe-shaped musical instrument. Radion Modulator this spherical device was used as a musical instrument. Sansil a musical instrument created on the planet Adarlon. Slothar this musical instrument was played by waving it in the air. Synth-harmonica a musical instrument, the synth-harmonica was an electronic device which was designed to be played by virtually any race of being. Synthtone a musical instrument that creates the sounds of other instruments using electronics. Tambour this musical instrument consists of a ring with a hide or canvas stretched across it. Small cymbals are mounted in the ring, so that they jingle when the hide is struck. Thunder Cannon this musical instrument simulates loud, booming crashes to emphasize certain aspects of orchestral music. Touchboard this musical instrument resembled a keyboard, but without the keys. The player used hand motions over the top of the touchboard to generate musical notes and sound effects. Troomic Sound Tube this long, specially-designed tube was used on a Bontormian Klesplong to resonate the musical tones of the instrument into a speaker, located at the Klesplong's base. Trunkflute a Kubazi musical instrument. Tryna Chime this small, arrowhead-shaped sheet of metal was fitted into a ring and used as a musical instrument. The Tryna chime was often the topmost piece of percussion used on a drumheller harp. Vandfill a musical instrument. Vioflute this was a stringed, musical instrument played on the planet Mawan. Windblower a musical instrument used in the Corellian Sector. Woot Horn a deep-toned musical instrument, often used in marching bands. Xantha this Gorothite instrument combined the elements of a 24-string lute and a bassoon into a single instrument. The player simulateously plucked the strings while stopping the holes along the goose-necked body. It required incredible musical skill to play. Xloff Horn this was a small, flat horn used as a musical instrument Have a field day with that list. There's a lot to choose from and I know there are more instruments out there but I wasn't able to find the entries for them. EDIT: Messed up the markups. 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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 3/8/04 4:34am Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars
	There is a site you can download the sound tracks from the Knights of the Old Republic game. So immersive that the game is, a player may not notice it all. But listen to the tracks, a minute and half or two on average, and you'll be astounded how intricate, deep and creative the scores really are. You could listen to the depth and cues to gain an idea, set the mood for a scene by the clever application of wording. But that's challenging to incorporate. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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Stormtrooper_Shrink Registered: Feb '04	Date Posted: 3/8/04 2:11pm Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars
	Whoa, big list there, RogueSticks. Thanks a lot! Okay, I'll go with the keyboard. At least that's a name I'm marginally familiar with. And Excellence, I watched my brother play KOTOR, so I was able to appreciate the music. THanks for the assist.
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Anakin Starkiller Registered: Jun '99	Date Posted: 3/8/04 10:44pm Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars
	Oola speaks french in Return of the Jedi, so why not italian? You might need to explain the terms in your story anyway, you could always use some made-up GFFA terms that way. Make yourself a little dictionary to keep them straight though. Sometimes I enjoy working out all the back story and details that are not really spelled out in the piece, but only obliquely referred to. If you know the backstory and make refrences to it, it will seem real. Lucas did this with the OT, and Tolkein did it in LOTR. -----signature----- Don't let the BOGAN get you down. Zhar's Zhar's Lesson (vignette Luke/OC) http://boards.theforce.net/Beyond_the_Saga/b10477/14988395/ The Fynal Construction of the Lytsabre http://boards.theforce.net/Before_the_Saga/b10475/18324731/
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Calandria Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 3/8/04 11:09pm Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars - Date Edited: 3/8/04 11:22pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Calandria
	Oola speaks french in Return of the Jedi, so why not italian? she does? Must be very mangled.. cause I never could understand a word she said (and I'm fluent in french) I'll have to pay better attention next time around. EDIT: I looked it up in the scripts... Na Chuba negatorie Na! Na! Natoota... (Oola right before Jabba feeds his pet rancor) that's what she says... and no matter how you turn it it's not french. It's the language they turncated to sound like Huttese. It may sound like french when she speaks it. Maybe the negatorie was borrowed from the french "negatif". But am pretty sure the latin is closer to it. (maybe our latin specialist will know) From what I know. All the languages are turncated one way or another from the Earth languages. So it wouldn't be so strange to take a language and just use it. It would make more sense then trying to come up with something entierly brand new that no one can make sense off. Random typing my look neat... but it don't have much sense. my two cents worth -----signature----- Empress of Coruscant Story Links in Bio
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DarthIshtar Title: Former CR Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 3/8/04 11:18pm Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars
	someone told me that the ewoks spoke chinese backwards. I don't know if there's any truth to that. Yoda speaks Hebrew grammar. -----signature----- "GET OUT OF THE WAY." Yoink It's coming
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Ty-gon Jinn Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 3/9/04 10:55am Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars
	Nah, I don't really know French, but it doesn't seem any closer to Latin. The only Latinate word one could couple it to would be negatio, negationis, "denial." -----signature----- I'm alive! And I'm back!! Who'd have thought it, eh? Assassination: http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=14787030 The Cost of Honor: http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=13443744
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amidalachick Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 3/9/04 1:32pm Subject: RE: Question: music in star wars
	I've heard Greedo's language is really Quechua spoken backwards. One more thing. What type of story is it, Stormtrooper_Shrink? If it's humor, Earth things can add to the story and make it funnier. -----signature----- "Special day? What have I forgot now? Don't panic...is it Bacon Day? No, that's crazy talk! She's getting impatient - take a stab at it! Happy...Valentine's Day?"
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