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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 6/10/06 11:41pm Subject: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton
	Analyze away! No bashing or gushing, just discussion of Wolverton's strengths and weaknesses as an author. Previous Author Analyses: Troy Denning Ann C. Crispin K. W. Jeter Sean Stewart Haden Blackman Greg Keyes Michael Stackpole Kevin J. Anderson Matthew Stover Michael Reaves Aaron Allston Go at it! -----signature----- "Is there a captain's hat involved in this?" "I . . . don't know what department I want. I need . . . pants."
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Astral_Bug Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 6/11/06 3:25am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton
	I've only read and rather liked Courtship of Princess Leia, so I don't know about his other books, jedi apprentice iirc. Dathomir witches were ok, except the main Nightsister, Gatharizon(sp?). Luke acted more like a true Jedi Master (yea, I even liked his 'sky-walking')not like in other bantam books, where he's still portrayed as a whiny learner, imo. -----signature----- As for Mara's non-aging, she's obviously bathing in the blood of Mandalorian virgins every night. sci-fi/fantasy forum - http://forum.prizma.si my blog - http://meadowofangles.blogspot.com/
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Commander5052 Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 6/11/06 4:47am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton
	Courtship of Princess Leia=meh. Payback:the Tale of Dengar= Awesome. He's not a bad writer, but he does better when not bound by the constraints of wirting main characters. -----signature----- Honored recepient of Thrawn McEwok's Bronze Thranta™ A Liberal and proud of it "Politics is simply the continuation of war by other means." --Mandalore the Ultimate
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 6/11/06 5:44pm Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton
	Courtship of Carrie was excellent. I've heard poor reviews of his Runelords though, and not read The Rising Force. But Carrie was well written, storylined and explored. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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Havac Title: Lit Mod of War Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 6/11/06 10:21pm Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton
	I think COPL doesn't deserve the bad rep it gets. It's no POT or TCS. Wolverton wrote an interesting and original story. The negative is Han's behavior, but that's more plot-driven than anything. All in all, he's a decent writer with original ideas and decent characterization, but weak plotting and a sex fixation. His best work was, in my opinion, making Isolder a nice guy instead of a cliche jerk, or even worse, a nice-seeming guy who turns all jerk at the end and makes a lame thoughtless ending. That was classy. -----signature----- "Is there a captain's hat involved in this?" "I . . . don't know what department I want. I need . . . pants."
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PEZman4 Title: TF.N Foreign Book Covers Staff Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 6/11/06 10:39pm Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton
	The thing that bugs me about Wolverton is when he uses a comma, starts another thought in the same sentence without a new subject or conjunction. That absolutely drove me nuts COPL! Otherwise, I really liked the the book. In regards to the critisisms, to me it felt like the characters where in a situation they wouldn't be in, but if they were in that situation, that is how they would behave. (I hope that made sense.) What I mean is, I never would have imagined Han and Leia not being together forever. But because of the Isolder thing, I think Han did what Han would do. But that's just my take on it. -----signature----- Ozzel on Wookieepedia Steppin' softly in a danger zone!
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 6/11/06 10:42pm Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton - Date Edited: 6/11/06 10:42pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Excellence
	If I had an American nickel for every reviewer that told me that, I could buy the White House and paint it . . . hmmm, cerulean. Yes, with a shade of violet for sunset ambience. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 6/12/06 12:38am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton - Date Edited: 6/12/06 1:13am (3 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	Wolverton is pretty good overall- he's good at some characters, like Luke, and terrible with others (Han & Leia in COPL being the one time in all of the adult novels where they were so blatantly out of character that even I noticed it-"Do you love me now?" "No" "How about now?" ugh). His villians were acceptable too, though sometimes his space battles and flightd escriptions, as well as moments in the plot, are not described very well or completely overlooked (I mean, the sudden reappearnce of the Iron Fist didn't even garner a second blink in COPL, and it took the three Wraith books to explain it). The good and the bad balance each other out in the end for the most part, leaning towards the positive end of the scale. He did give us "kiss my wookiee" though, so for that. On the other hand, he created those frelling annoying Hapans and their petty, insignificant squabbles. So for that. -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Darth_gloom Registered: Sep '05	Date Posted: 6/12/06 4:41am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton
	I like Wolverton because he has an imagination, unlike some of the other authors I've read. Honestly, Star Wars is supposed to be space fantasy, not science fiction, and Wolverton understands that, whereas people like Zahn do not. Courtship of Princess Leia=one of the few post ROTJ-novels I really liked. -----signature----- "Do or do not, there is no try"
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Yodas-evil-twin Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 6/12/06 11:45am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton
	The2ndQuest posted: He did give us "kiss my wookiee" though, so for that. Actually, the term first appeared in Solo Command. Wolverton just took full of advantage of its possibilities. -----signature----- "Who watches the Watchmen?" "The JCC is pretty much Lord of the Flies without the healthy outdoorsy atmosphere." -soitscometothis
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AdmiralWesJanson Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 6/12/06 12:56pm Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton
	Yodas-evil-twin posted: The2ndQuest posted: He did give us "kiss my wookiee" though, so for that. Actually, the term first appeared in Solo Command. Wolverton just took full of advantage of its possibilities. -----signature----- Duke of Corellia Join the Corellian Browncoats in their fight against the evil Alliance! Fix the K-Wing! No more XJs! Make the next X-Wing a T-65K!
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 6/12/06 1:10pm Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton - Date Edited: 6/12/06 1:11pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	Chronologically it appeared first in Solo Command, but Courtship of Princess Leia was published years before the Wraith books were. So the SC use of the phrase was just a retroactive setup for the line in COPL (as, indeed, was most of SC a retro setup for COPL as a whole ). -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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Yodas-evil-twin Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 6/12/06 2:00pm Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton - Date Edited: 6/12/06 2:16pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Yodas-evil-twin
	The2ndQuest posted: Chronologically it appeared first in Solo Command, but Courtship of Princess Leia was published years before the Wraith books were. So the SC use of the phrase was just a retroactive setup for the line in COPL (as, indeed, was most of SC a retro setup for COPL as a whole ). Oh ! As for Wolverton, I find him to be a pretty solid writer, who can come up with some page turning work. P:TTOD was fun to read, COPL was enjoyable, and TRF was better than most of the Jude Watson books. -----signature----- "Who watches the Watchmen?" "The JCC is pretty much Lord of the Flies without the healthy outdoorsy atmosphere." -soitscometothis
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GrandAdmiralJello Title: Emperor • EUC • JCC Registered: Nov '00	Date Posted: 6/12/06 8:40pm Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton
	Yeah, remember that Bantam didn't feel the need to write things in order. Sometimes I wonder how they got a working chronology at all. -----signature----- SPQR Vates Jυλιαδις Moribus antiquis res stat Romana virisque - Ennius Tu regere imperio populos, Romanæ, memento; hæ tibi erunt artes; pascisque imponere morem, parcere subjectis et debellare superbos - Virgil
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 6/13/06 12:58am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton
	As 2ndQuest said, Courtship was one of the earliest SW books around. Solo Command came waaay later, even though earlier on the fictious timeline. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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phantasm66 Registered: Aug '00	Date Posted: 6/13/06 5:28am Subject: RE: Author Analysis: Dave Wolverton
	GrandAdmiralJello posted: Yeah, remember that Bantam didn't feel the need to write things in order. Sometimes I wonder how they got a working chronology at all. hindsight is always 20/20.. at the time though, we were eating it up. i remember going through all the books at the time and avoiding courtship because i thought it was going to be corny. and at times it was, but it also introduced the witches who were a great addition to the story line. brought yoda into it and everything...
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