Author Topic: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2
Kier_Nimmion  5870 posts
Registered: Aug '00
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Date Posted: 6/5/02 8:30am Subject: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2



As much as I really enjoyed the The New Essential Guide to Characters I also feel that there were just way too many omissions. There are characters missing who are actually quite important to the overall scheme of things, and ones from sources that many might not know about, like the video games, and would go a long ways to enhancing the Expanded Universe. I certainly do not blame Daniel Wallace for any omissions- I know he only had a limited amount of pages with which he could fil.

But this means there is room, I think, for a second book. Here is a partial list of who I think should be added:

Nomi Sunrider
Tot Doneeta
Freedon Nadd
Vima Da Boda
Desann
Galak Fyarr
Tahiri
Tenal-Ka
Ganner Rhysode
Winter
Tionne
Sariss
Yun
Gorc
Pic
Maw
Qu-Rahn
Grodon Tierce
Plif
Aayla Secura
Bultar Swan

If you think there should be more, please list ones that I have missed.


 

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Fire_Light  8276 posts
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Date Posted: 6/5/02 8:34am Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2
I'll sign. Also I think the Jedi who were lumped together (Ki, Plo, etc.) should get their own entry.

 

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PrinceXizor  5900 posts
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Date Posted: 6/5/02 8:41am Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2
I'll wait till EPIII is released to sign. And you gotta find a better name... Like "The Updated Essential Guide to Characters". tongue

 

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very-superior  563 posts
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Date Posted: 6/5/02 8:41am Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2
The only one I care about from that list is Tahiri.

 

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Mastadge  26570 posts
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Registered: Jun '99
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Date Posted: 6/5/02 8:42am Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2
Bah. Forget guides. Get Dan to write some Tales about limbo characters!

 

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Kier_Nimmion  5870 posts
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Date Posted: 6/5/02 8:42am Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2



I'm also asking for people to add other characters they'd like to see.


 

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Agamemnon_320 
Registered: Apr '02
Date Posted: 6/5/02 8:45am Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2
I too have noticed many omissions, in addition to yours:

Mirax Terrik
Hal Horn
Nejja Halcyon
Wes Jansen
Most of the Rogues
Most of the Wraith's
Cay Qel-Droma
Master Thon of Ambria
Master Arca of Arkania
Andur
Corran and Mirax's two sons
Almost ALL of the young Jedi Knights
Shedoa Shai (I could be wrong about him)
Ganner Rhysode (I could be wrong about him)
Wurth Skidder

I'm sure there's more but I just can't think of them right now.

 

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Genghis12  18840 posts
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Registered: Nov '99
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Date Posted: 6/5/02 8:46am Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2
Definitely Plif. In fact, I still think there needs to be a Union: Special Edition with Luke's "bestest buddy" inserted as a groomsman. Probably one of the key issues of that mini-series was the clear absence of key friends of Luke. Makes Luke look like a real jerk when he turns his back on his "old friends" only to pal around with his "new friends" - it makes him rather "phony."

 

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Agamemnon_320 
Registered: Apr '02
Date Posted: 6/5/02 8:48am Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2
Also Tahiri and Tenel Ka ARE in the New Essential Guide to Characters, however they only have a short four or five line blurb on each and no pictures in the back of the book.

 

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Kier_Nimmion  5870 posts
Registered: Aug '00
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Date Posted: 6/5/02 8:48am Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2 - Date Edited: 6/5/02 8:50am (1 edits total) Edited By: Kier_Nimmion

Genghis,

Plif could just be added to any scene sitting on Luke's shoulder, ogling Mara, then telepathically tell Luke ::She's not bad looking...for a human, but I liked Shira more!::


Agamemnon_320,

Also Tahiri and Tenel Ka ARE in the New Essential Guide to Characters, however they only have a short four or five line blurb on each and no pictures in the back of the book.

So not really, then? They deserve more space than they got.



 

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Agamemnon_320 
Registered: Apr '02
Date Posted: 6/5/02 9:02am Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2
I thought of a few more:

Jek Porkins
Biggs Darklighter
I don't remember seeing Garm Bel Iblis
The Jedi that Luke was training that was seduced to the dark side by Exar Kun on Yavin 4 in the Jedi Academy Trilogy of whom I forget his name.
All the other Jedi Masters he trained from the Jedi Academy Trilogy.
The women he met that supposedly knew his mother in the Black Fleet Crisis
Most of Talon Karrde's men.
Master Odan-Uur
Master Ood
The rest of the original Jedi from the Golden age and Fall of the Sith Empire.
Wedge's Wife.

The list will continue...

 

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Agamemnon_320 
Registered: Apr '02
Date Posted: 6/5/02 9:04am Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2
I never said they shouldn't have more space, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

 

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Valiento  25674 posts
Registered: Mar '00
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Date Posted: 6/5/02 9:12am Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2
Plif didn't go to the wedding for three reasons.

1. Mara Jade's aura gives him a telepathic headache.

2. He just hates mara jade as a person(hoojib), and was against luke marrying her from the start. So he didn't go to the wedding on pretense.

3. He liked Bria better.



Then one asks what was plif doing during ROTJ? When his friends were off doing stuff, on the death star, or endor, or millenium falcon. Obviosly they have their own priorities.

 

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Wedge 88  11221 posts
Registered: Jul '99
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Date Posted: 6/5/02 9:30am Subject: 88: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2
Some of these wouldn't work, there just isn't enough NEW info for the characters. And the guides have always had a devirsity to them, having half the guide as TotJ characters, another portion JK series characters, and then some sort of thing for all the minor characters in the movies and books isn't going to work.

For Rogues and Wraiths check out Insider's Who's Who in Rogue Squadron. For Wes Janson check out his entry in Insider as well.

 

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Kier_Nimmion  5870 posts
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Date Posted: 6/5/02 9:59am Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2

Wedge,

And the guides have always had a devirsity to them, having half the guide as TotJ characters, another portion JK series characters, and then some sort of thing for all the minor characters in the movies and books isn't going to work.

I wasn't talking about minor characters myself. The ones I listed are actually fairly important, as are some that other people have provided. To say that Nomi Sunrider isn't important enough to warrant an entry in a new book is silly, she was practically the star of the TOTJ era IMO, even though Exar Kun and Ulic got all the press. Admittedly some characters won't make the cut, but that's to be expected.


 

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NikeSkylark  1946 posts
Registered: Jan '02
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Date Posted: 6/5/02 2:39pm Subject: RE: Petition for a New Essential Guide to Characters Volume 2
there are only a few things i had a problem with in the guide. a few people were completely omitted i thought should have gotten at least a mention if not at least a page. some people who only got a paragraph and should have gotten at least a page and the people who got a page or more who should have gotten only a paragraph (or completely omitted).

people not in the quide i thought should have at least gotten a paragraph (if not a page):

mirax terrik
wes janson
tionne
shada d'ukal
zekk
iella wessiri
ganner rhysode
wurth skidder


people that only got a paragraph that i thought should have more space:

tenel ka
tahiri veila
cilghal
elegos a'kla
danni quee

people who got a page or more that i think should only have a paragraph (or omitted completely):

prince isolder
brakiss
most of those bounty hunters and OT era imps
ric olie
captain panaka
sebulba


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PS. those are the only people i can come up with right now...

 

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