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DamonD Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 8/16/04 1:43pm Subject: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots - Date Edited: 11/26/07 5:40pm (13 edits total) Edited By: DarthButt
	Welcome! This thread is designed to provide people with all the facts and information about the OT DVDs. Topics up for discussion here include : * The DVD transfer and process * The availability and prices for the DVD set * Information about any DVD extras, commentaries, documentaries, etc * Information about any changes and rumoured changes * DVD screencaps - not too many per page, as a courtesy to users with slower modems * Links to reviews of the new DVD set This thread is not intended to be used for : * Actual discussion about any changes, rumoured changes, or reviews * Comments about the wider Saga as a result of the DVD changes * General talk about whether to buy or not Any posts along these lines will just be edited out. This should mean that anyone can visit this thread and easily find out what's on the DVD without having to wade through discussion posts. Please also remember to keep to the TOS at all times. Spoilers will NOT be allowed in any way, shape, or form here...they are simply not needed in an informative thread such as this one. One last thing...rumours are fine...but bear in mind that until the DVDs are actually released, we can't rely on any information completely. There's still the possibility, especially given Lucasfilm's track record on this, that changes could be going on practically up to the last week or so before release. So pinches of salt may be advised DaMovieMan has a website where he keeps track of the DVD details as well, along with accompanying pictures. Thanks to him for collecting the information here, you can visit his website by clicking HERE. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---LIST OF DVD CHANGES--- A NEW HOPE - Obi-Wan's howl to scare away the Tuskens is higher pitched for some reason. - Better blue glow around Luke's lightsabre blade. - The shot as Luke's speeder flies into Mos Espa has been redone, with a better effect and Threepio moving rather than standing stock still. - Rather than Greedo just missing, now Han moves slightly aside to avoid the shot. They shoot at almost the same time. - An improved version of Jabba has been inserted into his scenes. It's more like the TPM version. He also reacts in a different, more realistic way to having his tail trodden on. - The matte-painted Death Star hall in the detention block has been fixed rather than just having a bright white light at one end. - The Dianoga eye has been re-done in CGI rather than a stop-motion puppet. The stalk is the same, but the eye now blinks and looks more real. - The lettering on the Death Star 'power' and 'tractor beam' panels are now written in Aurebesh rather than English. - Blue glow added to Obi-Wan's lightsabre when it 'fizzles out' near the end of his first duel sequence against Vader. It's not a total redo, but makes it look a bit better. - Vader's white sabre, seen through the doors when Luke is blasting the storm troopers, has been correctly coloured red. THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - Ian McDiarmid is now in place for Emperor Palpatine's scene, rather than the monkey-eyed old woman. There are also a couple of new lines in this scene (see below). - Boba Fett's voice redubbed by Temura Morrison (Jango Fett). - Han's black jacket has been digitally erased, to eliminate an old blooper where it suddenly appears when he's placed in the carbon freezing area. - Luke's wail when he falls off the Cloud City platform is gone RETURN OF THE JEDI - The Rancor's matte-lines have been removed. - In Vader's death scene, Shaw's eyes have been recoloured blue (to match Hayden's) and his eyebrows removed (as they would never have survived his warm bath). - Naboo now appears in the end celebration sequence. - The Senate and Jedi Temple buildings now appear in the Coruscant end celebration sequence. - Hayden Christensen appears at the end of the film in place of Sebastian Shaw as 'Ghost Anakin'. MISC INFO Audio Quality - "I spoke with Ben Burtt recently. He mentioned the upcoming Star Wars DVDs. It seems that they were able to go back and digitize all of the original tracks and rebuild the show from scratch. For the previous Theatrical Special Editions they were only able to go back and re-mix and edit from the pre-mixes which were sonically limited by the analogue recording and reproduction systems of the time. Since Ben was responsible for archiving all of the sound on A New Hope, all of the sounds were able to be found except for a couple of foley tracks which I'm assuming will be re-done. So it seems that we will be hearing Star Wars in a way we've never heard it before. He did not mention if Empire and Jedi would be receiving the same treatment." Picture Quality - A huge amount of frame by frame restoration and clean up, along with fixing of all matte-lines and background elements. The colours are drastically improved due to this, appearing much more vibrant and making the films look like they were shot a lot more recently. - Quotes from Lowry Digital Images : “There were sandstorms of dirt on the film,” says John Lowry, CEO and founder of the Burbank, California-based company. “In the desert scenes alone, we probably removed more than a million pieces of dirt. That means each frame literally had hundreds of pieces of dirt.” In many ways, the films of the Star Wars Trilogy were victims of their own success. “Generally, the more successful a film, the worse condition it’s in. When a movie starts out, there are some expectations for what’s going to happen with it, how many times prints will need to be made and so forth, then the studio makes a certain number of protection masters for printing. But if they go through them all, they have to go back to the negatives again because the protection masters are just plain worn out. Of course, every time you go back to the originals, you’re beating them up again. So, the big movies, the really successful ones, are usually pretty rough.” “The dirt was the biggest single challenge. It was just incredible,” he says. “We use automated systems here, which can remove hundreds of pieces of dirt in a scene, but in this case the automated systems just couldn’t cope.” Last year, Lowry Digital Images performed a digital restoration of the three Indiana Jones films, each of which had about 100,000 pieces of dirt. “In the Star Wars films, we removed up to one million pieces of dirt in a single scene.” Prior to the event of digital technology, colour timing was a hit-or-miss proposition done in a laboratory setting. “It was really hard to get right,” Blanchard (Lucasfilm Post-Production Supervisor) says. “But in the digital environment, there’s a lot more control. You have the ability to fine-tune things exactly the way you want them to be and bring out subtleties in the film you couldn’t get by the traditional method of colour timing. On the Star Wars Trilogy, we were able to retime the movie to make it look the way George originally wanted it to be.” Simply put, Lowry says the Trilogy was the most difficult project his company has ever had. “We’ve cleaned up more dirt on these three movies than we have on any movie we’ve ever worked on, including Citizen Kane – and that was almost impossible,” he says, trying to give some idea of the challenges his technicians faced. “The end result? These films are absolutely stunning.” DVD EXTRAS (information taken from BBFC (British Board of Film Classification) website and the official Star Wars Magazine) Audio Commentaries on all three films ...ANH - Lucas, Burtt, Muren, Fisher. ...ESB - Lucas, Kershner, Burtt, Muren, Fisher. ...ROTJ - Lucas, Burtt, Muren, Fisher. Star Wars Ep3 'Behind The Scenes' Preview - The Return Of Darth Vader (9m05s) ...George Lucas talks about Anakin's descent to the Dark Side Star Wars Ep3 - Making The Game (6m08s) Star Wars Battlefront Videogame - Trailer (1m16s) The Force Is With Them - The Legacy Of Star Wars Featurette (13m21s) ...How influential the Star Wars movies have been on other filmmakers Empire Of Dreams - The Story Of The Star Wars Trilogy (2h30m40s) ...Documentary on the making of the Star Wars Saga The Characters Of Star Wars - Featurette (18m55s) ...Rare concept art, behind-the-scenes footage, and interviews Star Wars Trilogy Trailers - Original Teasers, Original Trailers, Re-issue Trailers, Original TV Spots, and '97 SE Trailer. The Star Wars Trilogy - The Birth Of The Lightsaber Featurette (15m32s) Never-Before-Seen Production Photo Gallery Posters and Print Campaign Exclusive DVD-ROM content TRANSCRIPT OF ESB EMPEROR SCENE Due to the question coming up dozens of times in the last days, here is the transcript of the new Emperor Hologram Scene in ESB. New dialogue is in bold. Vader: "What is thy bidding, my master." Palpatine: "There is a great disturbance in the Force." Vader: "I have felt it." Palpatine: "We have a new enemy. The young Rebel who destroyed the Death Star. And I have no doubt that this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker." Vader: "How is that possible?" Palpatine: "Search your feelings, Lord Vader. You will know it to be true. He could destroy us." Vader: "He's just a boy. Obi-Wan can no longer help him." Palpatine: "The Force is strong with him. The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi." Vader: "If he could be turned, he would become a powerful ally." Palpatine: "Yes. Yes. He would be a great asset. Can it be done." Vader: "He will join us or die, my master." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If anyone has any new information or confirmations of existing information, this is the place for it. -----signature----- I love all 6 Star Wars films. Live with it. Member of FIGS, the Fantastic Ian (McDiarmid) Gushers Society.
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DARTH_CHINA Registered: Dec '01	Date Posted: 8/16/04 1:53pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots - Date Edited: 8/16/04 1:54pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DARTH_CHINA
	A New Thread. Excellent. I'm looking forward to the picture quality and above all, the empire of dreams documentary. It's gonna be fun. Only a good month to go. Let's enjoy the ride.
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PloKloon1138 Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 8/16/04 2:02pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots
	What a long ride that thread's been. Oh well. Anyway, the things I'm looking forward to the most are the commentaries (besides the actual films, of course). -----signature----- Another happy posting.
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DINVADER99 Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 8/16/04 2:04pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots
	Ummm I've seen several screencaps of the newer Jabba and the Aurebesh on the Tractor beam panels, so those are NOT rumors any longer, they are confirmed as much as the above confirmed changes.
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Crow_T_Robot Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 8/16/04 2:07pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots
	I'm not so sure about some of the things that are listed as rumoured. We have more evidence of redone Jabba, redubbed Boba Fett, and the Jedi Temple than we do of the binary sunset clouds, but that is listed as confirmed and these are listed as rumoured.
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TwiLekJedi Title: Classic Trilogy Manager Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 8/16/04 2:09pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots
	We just stole someone's compiled list. In a week or two this could all be terribly outdated anyway. We don't claim it's 100% accurate. Because nothing is 100% accurate at the moment. -----signature----- We do what we must Because we can For the good of all of us Except the ones who are dead
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DamonD Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 8/16/04 2:10pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots
	To be honest, virtually everything should be regarded as unconfirmed until the DVDs are actually out...but there's no problem shuffling some stuff around. That's partly the point of the thread. -----signature----- I love all 6 Star Wars films. Live with it. Member of FIGS, the Fantastic Ian (McDiarmid) Gushers Society.
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Darth-Jett Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 8/16/04 2:15pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots
	Also during the End Celebration in addition to the Jedi Temple on Coruscant, the Senate can also be seen. -----signature----- The O-OT is DEAD, accept it. The DVDE reigns supreme in correct order! I - II - III - IV - V - VI This Message Was Presented in Anamorphic Widescreen (Aspect Ratio 2.35:1) This message was also "My Three Cents"
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EmpireOfTheSon Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 8/16/04 2:23pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots - Date Edited: 8/16/04 2:23pm (1 edits total) Edited By: EmpireOfTheSon
	The BBFC (Britsh Board of Film Classification) has to certificate everything released on DVD's in the UK (content wise) and award an appropriate rating. They rather helpfully list on their website EVERYTHING contained on the DVD's !!!! Read on.......... STAR WARS EPISODE III - BEHIND THE SCENES PREVIEW - THE RETURN OF DARTH VADER 9m 5s STAR WARS EPISODE III - MAKING THE GAME 6m 8s STAR WARS BATTLEFRONT VIDEO GAME TRAILER 1m 16s THE FORCE IS WITH THEM: THE LEGACY OF STAR WARS FEATURETTE 13m 21s EMPIRE OF DREAMS: THE STORY OF THE STAR WARS TRILOGY 150m 40s THE CHARACTERS OF STAR WARS FEATURETTE 18m 55s STAR WARS TRILOGY - TRAILERS 14m 47s STAR WARS TRILOGY - TV SPOTS 4m 47s EDIT : STAR WARS TRILOGY - THE BIRTH OF THE LIGHTSABER FEATURETTE 15m 32s A NEW HOPE - MOVING MENUS 19m 31s THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK - MOVING MENUS 17m 10s THE RETURN OF THE JEDI MOVING MENUS 13m 37s BONUS DISC MOVING MENUS 4m 36s .... No DELETED SCENES listed so I assume = NO DELETED SCENES Anyway, thought this may be useful to anyone interested -----signature----- "I thought they smelt bad on the OUTSIDE"
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commandercody Registered: Dec '03	Date Posted: 8/16/04 2:38pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots - Date Edited: 8/16/04 2:42pm (1 edits total) Edited By: commandercody
	Return of the Jedi DVD Online (containing screenshot's and video) http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=815 Starman's Empire Strikes Back DVD Thread (containing new dialog mp3's and screenshots) http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1506 DarthFirst's Original Trilogy DVD Set Thread (screenshots from DVDs A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, and Bonus Disk + commentary mp3's) http://www.millenniumfalcon.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=1465
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Murder_Sandwhich Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 8/16/04 3:07pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots - Date Edited: 8/16/04 3:09pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Murder_Sandwhich
	are you sure the stormies have been redone? and you forgot that Terri has redone Boba's lines. -----signature----- http://steamcommunity.com/id/murdersandwich
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 8/16/04 3:22pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots
	My suggested subtitle for this thread was "Technical Readouts (of That Battlestation)", alas, it was rejected... ::) -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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SilverWook Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 8/16/04 5:07pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots
	I've seen a screencap from the documentary of the original Star Wars title crawl. Anyone know if it's shown completely? Or is it just a few fleeting seconds?
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Magic_Al Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 8/16/04 5:31pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots
	"So it seems that we will be hearing Star Wars in a way we've never heard it before. He did not mention if Empire and Jedi would be receiving the same treatment." Well, Jedi's soundtrack wouldn't need as much work since it has always been a digital master (being the first THX film ever released). In that sense the leaked ROTJ "DVD rip" is unrevealing because Jedi simply wouldn't have needed as much audio reworking as the other two to get it up to today's standards. Jedi has always sounded better than the other two and it may be this DVD release will turn the tables on that. The high quality (even as mp3s) of the two snippets of audio from Empire that've been leaked suggest we are in for a sonic treat.
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Dirty-Darth Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 8/16/04 5:42pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots
	- Stormtrooper voices redubbed by Temura Morrison (Jango Fett). Whoa, the Stormies are getting new voices too. I thought it was just going to be for Boba... -----signature----- Pro OT Changes Pro Prequel Trilogy --You wouldn't think I grew up with the Originals would you?--
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Darth-Seldon Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 8/16/04 5:48pm Subject: RE: Official DVD Thread #1 : DVD General Information & Screenshots
	Great thread, and great updates DamonD. In the huge thread it was becoming confusing just to find what official changes are being made. Amazing, this year I'm not dreading September as much as usual. Thanks Seldon -----signature----- Isaac Asimov was an innovative genius All posters are equal but some posters are more equal than others. JOE BIDEN 2012
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