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Darth_Otaku Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 10/19/04 10:10pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released... - Date Edited: 10/19/04 10:14pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Otaku
	don't mean to double-post, but I finally saw Trailer B. Very awsome. You know when this is coming out? edit: not sure I'd want to lay out a ROTJ trailer in this fashion until Ep 3 is released. -----signature----- Opening Match: Anakin vs Dooku Tag-Team Match: Anakin/Palpatine vs Mace/another Jedi Hardcore Match: Grevious vs Obi-wan Title Fight: Sidious vs Yoda Main Event: Anakin vs Obi-wan...IN A VOLCANO!!
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DarthyMarkyMark Registered: Nov '03	Date Posted: 10/20/04 4:25am Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	I've just seen the second trailer ... You did an amazing job with it! It's my favourite of the two trailers, although both of them were fantastic. The use of the music was perfect - it actually brought tears to my eyes when the Force Theme rose up. Good job!
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TwiLekJedi Title: Classic Trilogy Manager Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 10/20/04 7:29am Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	Okay, got B now, too Yeeeeeesss.... niiice! Very nice! The music was quite fitting, the beginning was a really cool idea, the dialogue seems much more meaningful with the PT-only premise and the last scene - awesome. Good job! -----signature----- We do what we must Because we can For the good of all of us Except the ones who are dead
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Durwood Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 10/20/04 9:03am Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	Nice trailers! It really gives you an idea of what "could have been". The dialogue editing could be a little tighter, but nice effort overall. I particularly like Duel of the Fates playing while Luke talks about wanting to become a Jedi. It makes you wonder if he's going to follow the same path as his father! -----signature----- "[STAR WARS fans] all have very strong ideas about what should happen, and they think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way." -George Lucas
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DreamerChild13 Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 10/20/04 1:36pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	ok im all bummed now, none of those 2 links will work....anyone have any suggestions? -----signature----- "I love you" "I know" "Why you stuck-up, half-witted, scruffy-looking nerf-herder!" "I think you just can't bear to let a gorgeous guy like me out of your sight." "You have your moments, not many of them, but you do have them" "Laugh it up fuzzball"
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jedimasterbac Title: CT and Fan Design Manager Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 10/20/04 2:24pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	Wait until the morning so the bandwith can go away for a while. You should also try to make trailers for Episode I, Episode II, and Episode III as if they came out first and we had no idea what to expect. Episode V and Episode VI trailers would be cool also. The Son of Suns trailer was boss. -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode I - The Chosen One (my fan fic) http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/30225011/p1/?3
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Darth_Otaku Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 10/20/04 3:44pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released... - Date Edited: 10/20/04 3:46pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Otaku
	I actually think the saga as a whole would have been better recieved had the PT been the OT, and the OT been the, um ST (sequel trilogy). 1: There wouldn't be anything to compare Ep 1 to, so it would have been as well recieved as ANH had been. Same deal with Ep 2, except of course the comparison to TPM. Instead of TPM seeming minor compared to Ep 4-6, the audience sees a gradual upping of the scope of the saga. 2: ROTS-not knowing about the next three movies, the audience is expecting Anakin to conquer his inner-demons and defeat the Bad Guys, because that's what heroes always do. Instead, the Saga delivers a curve-ball that far out-weighs the one lost in Empire Strikes Back. Instead of being just a 'Space Opera,' SW becomes a 'Space Tradegy'-a sci-fi retelling of the Oedipus Cycle, Hamlet, Ring of the Nimbullum, and other theatrical classics. 3: From what I've read, the time period between ROTS and ANH is about 17 years. This would have almost perfectly matched the time between the end of the old trilogy and the beginning of the new...to the audience, the Galaxy Far, Far, away seems to have aged right along-side them. 4: Unlike what actually happened, there won't be any of the plot-disconnect between the old and new trilogy. Instead, GL picks up right where he left off. Most importantly, the audience won't have prior knowledge of what must happen in the new trilogy. After the shocker pulled in ROTS, nothing can be taken for granted. As a result, when ROTJ is released, it will bear the anticipation of five movies instead of two. 5: The symbolic ties will make more sense as they play out in numberic order, as well as have a greater pay-off when presented. Take, for example, Qui-gon's funeral pyre in TPM and Anakin's funeral pyre in ROTJ. Watching the movies in order of release instead of numeric order dimishes the emotional impact of the one in TPM, because we're all thinking "Hey, clever way to tie the end of the saga with the beginning, GL!" Seen in numeric order, we appreciate the messages conveyed by the symbolic tie instead of focusing on the use of the symbolic tie itself. Hmm...an episode 3 trailer for an audience that doesn't know the end result...I guess that means we wouldn't be hearing any heaving mechanical breathing :P -----signature----- Opening Match: Anakin vs Dooku Tag-Team Match: Anakin/Palpatine vs Mace/another Jedi Hardcore Match: Grevious vs Obi-wan Title Fight: Sidious vs Yoda Main Event: Anakin vs Obi-wan...IN A VOLCANO!!
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SITHlover Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 10/20/04 5:48pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	Wow, all I can say is wow. All I watched was the A trailer because I am avoiding all ep III footage (thanks for the heads up). A wonderful job. I know we all know the outcome and story of the movie but just imagine the crazy rumors and stupid story lines that would be flying around based solely on the footage from that trailer, oh the fun..... -----signature----- Star Wars is a religion.
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Kaydon_Sentry Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 10/20/04 8:23pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released... - Date Edited: 10/20/04 8:24pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Kaydon_Sentry
	Thanks again for the comments, guys! Due to bandwidth issues I wasn't going to release the third trailer, but I definitely will now... I just need to figure out a place to host them, otherwise, it'll be offline half the time! I just hope I'm not getting in trouble with AOL The people I've shown at work (I work at a visual effects company in LA) all agree my third one is the best one, but I just dont know where to put it online. I might tackle ESB next... preserving the twist... and I like the idea of a SW1 trailer... that would take some brain power to really get a trailer that conveys the story and gets people amped. The reason the teaser worked in the first place is because you KNEW about Star Wars and could get goosebumps when Qui Gon says "Anakin Skywalker, meet Obi-Wan Kenobi"... thats a line that probably wouldn't be in a fresh trailer... we'd be like... 'uh... who cares?" FIND ME A HOST! Or as Takin would say... "Would you prefer a new trailer, an episode 5 trailer, than NAME me a HOST!" ~Kayd
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MandiJade Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 10/20/04 9:25pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	Awesome trailers! I'm really looking forward to #3. -----signature----- Certain Point of View? - Try that one on your mother! It don't fly!
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Darth_Otaku Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 10/20/04 11:55pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released... - Date Edited: 10/21/04 12:14am (2 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Otaku
	The trick with making a ROTJ trailer is that it will have to tie in all 5 previous episodes, especially Eps 1, 2, and 3-which is a problem because ROTS isn't out yet. This also has to happen at the beginning. Here's how I would lay out the trailer for ROTJ (at least parts of it) Lucasfilms logo appears, Force theme enters softly Luke VO: Did you know your mother? Your real mother?logo fades shot of Padme Leia VO: Just barely, she died when I was very young. 3 shots of Padme and Anakin-One from TPM on Tatooine, one from Coroscant in AOTC, and a sad shot from ROTS Leia VO: She was...beautiful...kind, but..sad. Why are you asking me this? Luke watches twin sunset, ANH Luke VO: I never knew my mother... ...not sure what I want to show next, except pick up the action a little before the cuts that I have . . . Yoda's hut. Starwars fanfare fading Luke: I've come back to complete the training. Yoda: One test remains: Vader. cut to Vader exiting shuttle. Imperial March comes in Yoda VO: You must confront Vader Quick shot of new Death Star before cutting to the Emperor's arrival Mon Mothma VO: The Emperor himself is personally overseeing the final construction of this new Death Star. Sidious: Rise, my friend. cut to Mon Mothma Mon Mothma: Many Bothans died...to bring you this information... Some more random shots...then Yoda's hut. Luke: Is Darth Vader my Father? Yoda: Your father is. Shield Generator. Mix of Force theme, duel of the fates, and Sidious theme come in Vader: So...you finally know the truth. Luke: I know that you were once a Jedi name Anakin Skywalker scene of Anakin fighting in AOTC Shot of Anakin/Vader's duel with Obi-wan, ROTS Vader OV: That name means nothing to me now! Shield Generator Luke: Come with me, father. Vader: Obi-wan...once thought like you do shot of Obi-wan in ROTS Shots now become a rapid progression of scenes from all six movies. Mostly from ROTJ, but with references to previous episodes when relevant Sidious VO: Use your agressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you! Luke VO: I feel the struggle in you, father. The conflict. Vader VO: There is no conflict Finale kicks in. Scene of Luke igniting his lightsaber on Speeder Skiff Falcon enters Reactor Chamber Ewok blowing shofar-like horn Sidious using Force Lightning Jabba laughing Shots of Endor Space-Battle Han at Endor Bunker Luke pulls back hood in Jabba's Palace Leia on Speeder Bike Vader ignites Lightsaber in Throne room Title Appears Luke in Throne room, smiling and breathing heavily Sidious: So be it....Jedi! Coming this Summer -----signature----- Opening Match: Anakin vs Dooku Tag-Team Match: Anakin/Palpatine vs Mace/another Jedi Hardcore Match: Grevious vs Obi-wan Title Fight: Sidious vs Yoda Main Event: Anakin vs Obi-wan...IN A VOLCANO!!
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inkswamp Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 10/21/04 4:04am Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	If you do this, I have a suggestion for the start. Over a pure black screen we hear breathing (thus evoking the AOTC teasers.) Still on a black screen we hear, "I sense something, a presence I have not felt since..." Then bang! Launch into quick shots of visually exciting imagery (X-Wings flying by, gun turrets firing, stormtroopers shooting, explosions, etc.) The logic here is that if IV were made after III, what everyone would want to know is what happens between Obi-Wan and Darth Vader so many years later? For someone coming out of III, that would be the central plot issue and something viewers would want wrapped up or addressed, despite the fact that it really turns out to be a subplot in the context of ANH. Also, I would keep visuals of Vader to a minimum, hinting at what this bad guy we've only just met will be doing. The big surprise for people going to IV would be just how much Darth Vader is capable of. -----signature----- LAME COMEBACK #1 - Lucas should have done it my way or it's wrong LAME COMEBACK #2 - I can't think metaphorically so it's a PLOT HOLE LAME COMEBACK #3 - Complex interpretations confuse me LAME COMEBACK #4 - Lucas must spoon-feed me every detail
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Durwood Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 10/21/04 10:24am Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	Just a few random thoughts of a trailer I would put together (if I had the time or inclination). I would make it more focused on Luke and on the Ben/Vader relationship It's a pretty rough concept, but I think you'll get the idea. CU Leia hologram: "Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope." Shot of Ben pulling back his hood. VO: "I was once a Jedi knight, the same as your father." Ben with saber in the bar. VO: "You must learn the ways of the force." CU of Luke watching the homestead burn. VO: "He has too much of his father in him." Uncle Owen: "That's what I'm afraid of." Luke running; Ben: "No, wait! Luke! It's too dangerous!" Luke being attacked by tusken raider. Various shots of the Death Star. VO: "This battle station is now the ultimate power in the universe! I suggest we use it." Alderaan explodes. Ben: "We can't win, but there are alternatives." Vader: "Obi-Wan is here." Tarkin: "He must not be allowed to escape!" Luke: "But I want to come with you." Ben: "Your destiny lies along a different path than mine." Various shots of action scenes. Text: "Episode IV: A New Hope" End with Vader approaching Ben Kenobi. Vader: "You should not have come back." Sabers clash. Text: "Coming Fall 2005" -----signature----- "[STAR WARS fans] all have very strong ideas about what should happen, and they think it should be their way. Which is fine, except I'm making the movies, so I should have it my way." -George Lucas
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Kaydon_Sentry Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 10/21/04 6:24pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	If I get more time, I'll try out some of your ideas, guys... I'm sure it would be cool to outline something only to see it come out a few days later. Anyway, still working on getting the third trailer to y'all...
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Darth_Otaku Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 10/21/04 9:40pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	I'm trying to think of a good way to do the Ep 1 trailer on its own merit. There are a few thing that the trailer has to address: 1: Show what the Jedi are. Basically, the Jedi are a monastic/chivalric order that fight for Justice using a mixture of magic (the Force) and laser swords. This has to be conveyed by the trailer in a visual format, as the audience won't understand Star Wars terminology. 2: The epic scope of Star Wars must be conveyed. This is critical, as the scale is what distinguished Star Wars from the 'Planet of the Week' formula mastered by the Star Trek Series. Coroscant. The Imperial Senate. Mos Espa. The Trade Federation Blockade and the subsequent Battle of Naboo. 3: The trailer should focus on Obi-wan and Qui-gon, with secondary emphasis on Anakin and Queen Amidala. 4: Only the slightest hint of the Sith should be given-after all, they're the 'Phantom Menace'. Mabye a shot of Qui-gon and Maul clashing on Tatooine, the Sith Infiltrator, and Sidious saying "Wipe them out...all of them!" -----signature----- Opening Match: Anakin vs Dooku Tag-Team Match: Anakin/Palpatine vs Mace/another Jedi Hardcore Match: Grevious vs Obi-wan Title Fight: Sidious vs Yoda Main Event: Anakin vs Obi-wan...IN A VOLCANO!!
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