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-techno-union- Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 10/21/04 10:54pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	An Episode IV version of the AOTC breathing teaser would be perfect. Vaders breathing being intercut with silent shots of the characters faces and a few action seens, finishing off with a short clip of Vader vs Obi-Wan. -----signature----- "Unlimited Power!"
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Lord_Hydronium Title: Literature Gardener Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 10/22/04 12:22am Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	Awesome trailers. I really like the beginning of ANH; I hadn't thought at all how major the change to the Empire would be in saga order, but that sequence really brought forth the power of the Empire and how different from the Republic times the OT is. The slo-mo sequence to Binary Sunset Mk. II in Trailer B is fantastic. I've always loved that shot where Obi-Wan first reveals himself, and I'm getting chills when it's set to that powerful rendition of the Force theme. Nice juxtaposition in both trailers of "I want to learn the ways of the Force, and become a Jedi like my father" with Obi-Wan and his lightsaber. Some minor quibbles in music editing: the rendition of Duel of the Fates in both is from Return to Tatooine, which means it has that drop at the end; this loses the momentum, IMO, and a version from TPM (or the movie version of that same track, incidentally) where it kicks into high gear at that point would transition better and keep up the pace. The second, the main theme (especially including the introductory fanfare) feels somewhat out of place coming near the end of Trailer B. But that's really all. The rest is great. It sure makes me want to watch the movie. Assorted ESB ideas: For the beginning: Emperor's Theme starts at the Lucasfilm logo. Shot of Vader walking up to the communication pad. "What is thy bidding, my master?" Palpatine's hologram: "We have a new enemy..." V.O. over shot of Luke looking up at Vader in carbonite chamber: "Luke Skywalker". Vader: "He will join us or die." The dramatic music can kick in here. For the middle: Think Episode I trailer, namely the part where Palpatine, Panaka, et al explain to Padme that the situation is hopeless and she should give up. I really like this approach: it's a nice montage to set up the idea of, "What a dire predicament! How can our heroes escape that?" In this case, it's a bunch of clips and lines involving Luke slipping towards the Dark Side. As examples: Yoda: Much anger in him, like his father. Yoda (V.O) over shot of Luke attacking Vader: You are reckless! Vader: I can feel your anger, now release your hatred! The music for this would need to be dark and build up over the course of the sequence. The track from the garbage compactor scene of ANH would work well, I think. -----signature----- Great midis have little midis Swimming round inside 'em And little midis have lesser midis And so ad infinitum.
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Darth_Otaku Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 10/22/04 5:37pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	I agree that the ESB trailer needs to convey a proper sense of Doom...after all, it's The Empire Strikes Back we're talking about. Its also important that the subtle hints of Luke's connection to Vader. After all, the audience will be curious as to why Obi-Wan wasn't straight to Luke about what happened, and if Luke will find out the truth or not. Lines such as 'like his father,' 'young Skywalker,' and 'Son of Skywalker' make excellent references to their relation. -----signature----- Opening Match: Anakin vs Dooku Tag-Team Match: Anakin/Palpatine vs Mace/another Jedi Hardcore Match: Grevious vs Obi-wan Title Fight: Sidious vs Yoda Main Event: Anakin vs Obi-wan...IN A VOLCANO!!
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Darth_Otaku Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 10/22/04 9:45pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	I know its bad form to keep double-posting like this, but an idea just hit me so we can keep this thread alive while webspace is located for the trailers. What would your concept be for a Teaser Poster for ANH be if it had been the fourth movie released? Mine's based on the assumption that somewhere near the end of ROTS, we'll have a shot of the Lars family, with Beru cradling an infant Luke Skywalker in her arms, watching Obi-Wan disappear into the Tatooine double-sunset. (Given how GL has made a number of cross-trilogy connections so far, I'm guessing that this will be from the same camera-angle we see Luke watching the sunset from in ANH). Such a shot, had ROTS been the 3rd movie released, would probably be as well ingrained in the fanbase's collective memory as the shot of Luke watching the double-sunset is for us. The teaser poster for Episode 4-the first new Star Wars movie in 20 years-would tie right into one of the final moments of the first trilogy. My teaser poster, then, would be a somewhat stylistic shot of Luke Skywalker-the infant now grown to manhood-staring off into the sunset, just as he is seen in the movie. Faintly superimposed over the red sun is a portrait of Anakin from early in ROTS (before he goes postal), while superimposed over the white sun is a portrait of Padme, also from ROTS. In faint print above the sun-portraits are the words "Son of the Suns" (allusion to Journal of Whillis, for those of you who don't know). The bottom of the poster simply states "EPISODE IV". -----signature----- Opening Match: Anakin vs Dooku Tag-Team Match: Anakin/Palpatine vs Mace/another Jedi Hardcore Match: Grevious vs Obi-wan Title Fight: Sidious vs Yoda Main Event: Anakin vs Obi-wan...IN A VOLCANO!!
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Lord_Hydronium Title: Literature Gardener Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 10/22/04 10:20pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released... - Date Edited: 10/22/04 10:21pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Lord_Hydronium
	I was thinking about teaser posters as well. For TPM there was a poster series with the theme "One _____", like this Anakin one, for example. I had an idea for a similar one for ANH, except instead of "One _____", it would be "A New _____". Ideas I had: Tarkin in front, Motti and Tagge behind: "A New Order" Luke: "A New Jedi" Vader: "A New Danger" Han and Chewie: "A New Ally" Leia: "A New Heroine" Obi-Wan: "A New Master" 3PO and R2: "A New Mission" The Death Star: "A New Threat" I'll have to try making some of these. -----signature----- Great midis have little midis Swimming round inside 'em And little midis have lesser midis And so ad infinitum.
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solojones Registered: Sep '00	Date Posted: 10/23/04 8:29am Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released... - Date Edited: 10/23/04 8:43am (1 edits total) Edited By: solojones
	I just finished watching Trailer A (twice ) Kaydon and all I can say is WOW! I absolutely love how you did the beginning. "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope" then fading in to Ben... amazing. It immediately gave me a sense of connection to the PT and also let us know how much time had passed. Then having the talk about the Senate Council being disolved, the Old Republic being swept away, was awesome. And when DotF kicked in, I got chills again. Very exciting I'm like "Hey, I wanna see this movie! When's it come out?" The only complaints I have are with showing the Death Star exploding and perhaps the opening ship thing. Gotta save a few things. But all in all, I thought it was brilliant. I'm loading trailer B right now. I do hope you do more of these! EDIT: Ok, I just watched trailer B. First of all, I love the way this one begins too! Definite Saga feel to it. The whole Vader montage and then "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're my only hope"... and the tone completely changes, with the Force theme kicking in. And all the stuff with Luke. It really gives you a sense of this being a dark time but of there being A New Hope And I have to agree with pretty much everyone else- I loved the ending of this trailer Makes me want to see RotS more too But mostly, it makes me want to see all 6 in order. It's really been amazing watching the OT more recently how much more meaning it has. Hooray for the SW Saga! -sj loves kevin spacey -----signature----- 6 x 9 = 42 Proud member of the Colbert Nation My short films: http://www.youtube.com/solojones1138
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Kaydon_Sentry Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 10/24/04 2:54pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	Great news! Solo jones will be hosting the two trailers on his significantly superior webspace! Expect trailer C sometime today or tomorrow!
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Darth_Otaku Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 10/24/04 3:23pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	And there was much rejoicing -----signature----- Opening Match: Anakin vs Dooku Tag-Team Match: Anakin/Palpatine vs Mace/another Jedi Hardcore Match: Grevious vs Obi-wan Title Fight: Sidious vs Yoda Main Event: Anakin vs Obi-wan...IN A VOLCANO!!
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DarthyMarkyMark Registered: Nov '03	Date Posted: 10/24/04 4:08pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	Cool!
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3263827 Registered: Mar '99	Date Posted: 10/25/04 5:26am Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	Can't wait to see trailer C. I absolutely love the end of trailer B ... "you should not have come back..." -----signature----- "Open the pressure maintenance hatch on unit number -- where are we? -- 3263827!" - Luke Skywalker, Episode IV
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Darth_Otaku Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 10/25/04 11:21pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	Any news on the new trailer hosting? -----signature----- Opening Match: Anakin vs Dooku Tag-Team Match: Anakin/Palpatine vs Mace/another Jedi Hardcore Match: Grevious vs Obi-wan Title Fight: Sidious vs Yoda Main Event: Anakin vs Obi-wan...IN A VOLCANO!!
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Darth_Oracle Registered: Dec '00	Date Posted: 10/26/04 12:18am Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	Hey, can this person host the Kill Bill vid too??? !!! Face Drools -----signature----- Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith 1/04 Avoid rather than check. Check rather than hurt. Hurt rather than maim. Maim rather than kill. Kill rather than be killed. For all life is precious, nor can any be replaced; and I have MUCH to live for!
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Felvomatic Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 10/26/04 5:39am Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	if fans were watching in order, they would be extremely disapointed by the final duel between Obi-Wan & Vader. As the duel in Ep III is amazing.
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Kaydon_Sentry Registered: Jan '01	Date Posted: 10/26/04 11:16am Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released...
	I'm still waiting for confirmation by solojones about his host. He left me a PM a few days ago asking for the files to be emailed to him, but I haven't heard anything yet... keep an eye on this thread...
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Darth_Otaku Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 10/26/04 8:17pm Subject: RE: Episode IV Trailer... as if it were the fourth movie released... - Date Edited: 10/26/04 8:18pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Otaku
	if fans were watching in order, they would be extremely disapointed by the final duel between Obi-Wan & Vader. As the duel in Ep III is amazing. Fans will always have something to b**** about. Any thoughts on an ESB teaser trailer? -----signature----- Opening Match: Anakin vs Dooku Tag-Team Match: Anakin/Palpatine vs Mace/another Jedi Hardcore Match: Grevious vs Obi-wan Title Fight: Sidious vs Yoda Main Event: Anakin vs Obi-wan...IN A VOLCANO!!
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