Author Topic: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him?
black_saber 
Registered: Apr '02
40094_Anakin
Date Posted: 2/17/05 1:30am Subject: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him? - Date Edited: 2/17/05 1:31am (2 edits total) Edited By: black_saber
You know Vader confessing in Court about how wrong he was and former Imperial Officers going against him saying "Vader has been Murdering us Threaten Us if we refuse to obey or made Mistakes. He should be Executed

How would you see it?

 

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Sith Magician 
Registered: Sep '99
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Date Posted: 2/17/05 1:34am Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him?
Well I can't imagine anyone going "you survived and turned to the good side? Jolly good, all's forgiven then."

 

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black_saber 
Registered: Apr '02
40094_Anakin
Date Posted: 2/17/05 1:38am Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him?
The Rebellion is not the Jedi and they may not be forgiving that is why I post this question!

 

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KMG-365 
Registered: Feb '05
7933_Admiral Motti
Date Posted: 2/17/05 5:24am Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him?
Chances are that Vader, redeemed though he may have been, would have faced trail(s) for war crimes and crimes against humanity. As would Grand Moffs and other officers in the Empire.

 

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Chaotic_Serenity 
Registered: Oct '04
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Date Posted: 2/17/05 8:03am Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him?
I always assumed he would be, and likely would have been convicted. That's part of the reason I always felt it better that Vader died. I can't imagine how awful that would have been for Luke (and Leia) to go through that, and eventually the knowledge of their relationship would come out, and they'd have to deal with all the questions/accusations/scorn/etc.

 

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Saberwielder315 
Registered: Oct '04
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Date Posted: 2/17/05 8:05am Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him? - Date Edited: 2/17/05 8:06am (1 edits total) Edited By: Saberwielder315
I think that yes, Vader would have gone on trial. The republic is not the Jedi council and Vader was a criminal. Given there was a Jedi Order, maybe there would be a Jedi trial, but Vader now if he survived would have a full on trial. I could see it hurting Luke, but not Leia. I think Leia would be happy to have Vader go on trial. She never really forgave him.

 

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lordmorpheus 
Registered: Dec '04
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Date Posted: 2/17/05 8:43am Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him?
man, WHO in the known galaxy, even after the fall of the empire would have had the grapes to call vader in to a trial? i say that he'd probably have gone into seclusion like obi wan and Luke would have let him go. NOT LEIA, but luke.....certainly. just would have kept it on the lo-lo. NOT TO MENTION, the empire TECHNICALLY was still alive and kicking for quite a while after ROTJ. in any event, the galaxy was afraid of VADER, but saw the emperor as the head. very few people had the balls to face vader and look him eye-to-eye. leia...and han solo come to mind.....trust, they'd have been happy if he'd have pulled a kaiser soze` and was never seen nor heard from again.

 

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KMG-365 
Registered: Feb '05
7933_Admiral Motti
Date Posted: 2/17/05 9:06am Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him?
You raise a pretty good point, Morpheus: how would you force (no pun intended) Vader to stand trial? Wave of the hand or Force choke later, and he's walking away. And Yslamari (sp) aren't film canon, so they don't count wink

 

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Loco_for_Lucas 
Registered: Aug '02
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Date Posted: 2/17/05 9:07am Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him? - Date Edited: 2/17/05 9:09am (1 edits total) Edited By: Loco_for_Lucas
I figured if he had survived, he would have probably helped the Rebel Alliance as Anakin Skywalker, one of the remaining Jedi left from the Old Republic, letting everyone think Darth Vader died aboard the second Death Star. In lieu of the helmet and suit, I see him wearing artificial skin over his prosthetics and a simple breathing mask under a hood.

 

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KMG-365 
Registered: Feb '05
7933_Admiral Motti
Date Posted: 2/17/05 9:40am Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him?
I figured if he had survived, he would have probably helped the Rebel Alliance as Anakin Skywalker.

He'd be like the Abominable Snow Man after Yukon Cornelius pulled his teeth laugh

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spacename_the_name 
Registered: Feb '05
22669_Anakin Skywalker
Date Posted: 2/17/05 12:53pm Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him?
come on ..how akward would that be.

rebellion guy #1: "so whos your friend luke"
Luke: "oh its just my dad darth vader, dont worry..i swear he wont kill anyone"


it was 100% right not to have vader come back alive. hell even the rebels seeing luke carry vaders dead body would raise enough questions.

 

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Chaotic_Serenity 
Registered: Oct '04
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Date Posted: 2/17/05 1:30pm Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him? - Date Edited: 2/17/05 1:32pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Chaotic_Serenity
Why would Vader *not* go on trial? If he's truly repented at the end of ROTJ, then he should be honest enough to answer to his crimes. It would be awfully cowardly of him not to. Part of Anakin's problem what that he always ran from problems rather than facing them, and even when he did, he rarely took the time for self-examination. Allowing him to go scott-free following ROTJ would have sent a bad message.


I could see it hurting Luke, but not Leia. I think Leia would be happy to have Vader go on trial. She never really forgave him.

Never said she did. It took her 10+ year in the EU to really reconcile herself with it. But Luke's pain would effect her. And the controversy over her parentage would be tough to handle. And having him there, alive, would be alot for her to face after all he's done. It's easy to feel one way about something and not deal with it when they're not there, but if they remain a living, breathing presence nearby, it's not something that can be ignored.

 

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Keyan_Farlander 
Registered: Feb '02
Date Posted: 2/17/05 2:08pm Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him?
I doubt it would ever go to trial. Especially with Luke vouching for him, being someone so favored by the higher-ups in the Alliance.

Rather, they'd probably work something out where he would appologize for his wrongs and spend the rest of his life helping those he hurt, and probably helping raise a new order of Jedi as well. He was too valuable a resource because of his knowledge of the Force to waste.

 

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Katana_Geldar 
Title: Former CR Tasmania, AU
Registered: Mar '03
46078_Padme Jedi
Date Posted: 2/17/05 2:17pm Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him?
Never said she did. It took her 10+ year in the EU to really reconcile herself with it.

She named her younger son Anakin, that says a lot don't it?

 

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DarthyMarkyMark 
Registered: Nov '03
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Date Posted: 2/17/05 2:34pm Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him?
The Rebellion are not the Empire. The Rebellion would be civilised enough not to use the death penalty.

 

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Katana_Geldar 
Title: Former CR Tasmania, AU
Registered: Mar '03
46078_Padme Jedi
Date Posted: 2/17/05 2:41pm Subject: RE: If Vader survived at the End of Return of the Jedi do you think there would be a Trail for him?
ummmm, no. In the X-Wing books wasn't Tycho Celchu going to face a firing squad for high treason and Corran's death?

 

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