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Snaggleass
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4/5/05 5:43am
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Leia killing Jabba: Realistic?
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Jabba is this powerful crime-lord. Leia killing him seems too easy. He seriously could not do anything? Thoughts....
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Kinobe
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4/5/05 5:49am
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I think it could be realistic. He's just a big lump of lard, so he couldn't just get up and push her away. It was probably more to do with the fact that it was chaos in the room at the time that let her get away with it. Normally he'd have a room full of protection, but the bodyguards or whatever are too busy running around in panic to pay attention to what was going on with Jabba.
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DS615
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4/5/05 6:22am
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Jabba is this powerful crime-lord.
What does that matter? He still just a guy, so no air, no life.
The same is true for anyone, no amount of money, infuence, or "power" will save your life if someone cuts off your air supply, or shoots you, or pushed you off a ledge, etc.
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Snaggleass
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4/5/05 6:45am
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It's true. That would happen if it was done to you. If you were shot or stabbed.
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KennyT
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Jabba had grown lazy and overconfident. He never saw anything like this ever happenning to him because of his influence and all the bodyguards he had. The destraction left him defenseless, and his lazyness took away his strength so Leia over powered him.
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Tyranus_the_Hutt
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Considering the circumstances which surrounded Leia's asphyxiating display (for Jabba, or for the audience?  ), I suppose that it was realistic enough to believe that Jabba had little recourse in his resigned state of lethargy. KennyT makes a good point - many of these evil characters who inhabit the "Star Wars" universe are seemingly susceptible to overconfidence (indeed, Luke pretty much said as much to the Emperor later in "Return of the Jedi"); it is a notion which holds some modicum of truth in the saga, although I'm not sure that much, if any, thought went into this application. Considering that it seems to be a consistent, yet less pronounced side-issue, I guess that it would be fair to assume that it was designed.
Jabba's death serves two purposes: 1) we see an evil character receive his comeuppance, and the imposed notions of (galactic) justice are vindicated; and 2) it allows Leia, the person who was enslaved, an opportunity to assert herself and defeat her captor - had Luke or Han saved her, people might have argued that the entire function of Leia in this passage of the film was to satisfy some sexist proclivities on the part of the filmmakers. I understand that that is reading a bit much into the situation, but considering the scrutiny with which these films seem to be met, I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possiblity.
Anyways, Jabba's demise isn't underwhelming or ridiculous, as Boba Fett's trip into the Sarlacc pitt is often construed to be, but considering the Hutt's role in the film, I don't think any more time needed to spent on this character. The worst idea that I've heard for an alternate Jabba death scene, however, is from a writer I admire greatly, Roger Ebert: "I have always felt Lucas lost an opportunity here; since Jabba obviously must die at some point, why not feed him to the sand thing? I can envision the hutt's globular body slithering along the plank and plopping down into the big open mouth - and then being spit up again, as too unsavory even for this eating machine. Final shot: Green gooey Jabba-stuff dissolving in the monster's digestive juices under a pitiless sun." Uhhh...no.
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All_Powerful_Jedi
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4/5/05 8:01am
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I believe the inspiration for Jabba's death is from Luca Brazi's death in The Godfather. Lucas doesn't give his villains too dignified of deaths, he usually just wipes them out and is done with it (ie Emperor dying by being tossed down a pit). Given the logistics of where everyone was, Leia killing Jabba made the most sense (with R2 taking on Crumb), and being that she was chained to him, choking was the best strategy to use.
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Leia's Starboard Hair Bun
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4/5/05 9:42am
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I like how Leia turns the tables on him (I doubt it was planned that way though, just an opportunity that presented itself). Jabba's enormous entourage was what had always kept him safe, and they were all confused and distracted when the fight started outside, the sail barge shutters slammed shut, and the chaos exploded. Jabba was a huge creature so he presumably needed a lot of air, so Leia getting a chain around his throat did the trick after a while. Very graphic death, and one befitting such a vile creature.
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BATTLELION
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4/5/05 11:44am
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LUCA BRAZI
Good one. That's what Jabba is, right? A gangstah. He deserved to die that way.
"Jabba sleeps with the fishes."
heh heh
Anyway,
I thought it was quite satisfying for him to die the way he did:
1. It was a role reversal. First he's got Leia by the neck, all his girls by the neck and pulls them around.
It was a reversal of roles for him to die by strangulation.
2. It also shows that crime does not pay, so be good children!
props to the guy who thought of Luca Brazi.
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heres one for ya:
http://www.decipher.com/starwars/cardlists/specialedition/dark/large/jabbasinfluence.html
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CrazySaber
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4/5/05 12:00pm
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I think it was good, mainly because we got to see Leia running around in her slave girl outfit. 
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The_General_Grievous
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4/5/05 4:17pm
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wouldent the fat abosobred the choking?
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MetalGoldKnight
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4/5/05 5:12pm
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"The same is true for anyone, no amount of money, infuence, or "power" will save your life if someone cuts off your air supply, or shoots you, or pushed you off a ledge, etc."
Exactly. Boba Fett, the galaxy's best bounty hunter, was defeated because his backpack malfunctioned after a blind man hit it with a stick. The Emperor, who single-handedly brought down a the Republic with his plans and ruled an entire galaxy for decades, died because he was thrown down a shaft. Hell, even the great Death Stars were destroyed because Rebel pilots took advantage of their weakest points. No one and nothing, no matter how powerful, is invincible.
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plddc1
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4/5/05 5:50pm
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wouldent the fat abosobred the choking?
Um, no. Are you under the misimpression that fat people can't be strangled? That being fat causes the pressure of asphyxiation to disappear into thin air? If anything, the additional mass would crush the windpipe even faster.
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Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa
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4/5/05 5:56pm
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Just because one is notorious in power doesen't make them immortal or anything, so yes, it is realistic. You can't tell me you can't choke Bill Gates to death.
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Darth_Digital
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Well ALL of Star Wars is lacking a certain 'realism' now isn't it?
But in relation to this, a certain 'believability' is that Leia drew upon the Force for an increase of strength to kill the slug.
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nyjet10
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4/5/05 7:03pm
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It would be cool if Leia got yellow eyes while doing it. Everyone would be like H**Y S**T shes a SITH!!!
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