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DarthOrrorin
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6/4/05 12:52pm
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Luke rebuilds a lightsaber
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When Luke loses his lightsaber at the end of ESB he constructs a new one. Luke is truly a guardian, like his father, and has a blue lightsaber at first. In KotOR, KotOR II, JK: Jedi Acadamy, etc. a blue lightsaber is for a guardian. A green lightsaber is for counsulars, and yellow for sentinals. Why does Luke make his new lightsaber green? I guess maybe he doesn't make a new blue, so not to confuse viewers on how he got it back. Still, I don't understand why he makes it green.
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saber_master69
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6/4/05 12:56pm
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You cant base the films on a video game. I beleive that in cannon you pick crystals based on which you are drawn to when you build your lightsaber
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Ker-Soth
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6/4/05 3:39pm
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Or simply which you find when you need one. They aren't so common i hear.
Let alone the fact that there is never any kind of hint that there are seperate sub-classes like guardian and sentinel in the jedi order in the films. They are arbitary machinations that make our gaming experience easier much like the fabled "Force Heal".
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Darien_SabreHawkke
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6/4/05 3:42pm
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well in the clone wars cartoon dvd, which I do beleive is cannon, the crystal temple was smashed so it probaby takes some excavation to get a decent one.
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Darth_Crios
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Cant base it on a game, ok u play games too much.
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theN00_Jedi
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at least a s far as the Jedi Academy/Knight series goes, I think the only time they use those names are as actual file names, not in any dilouge, just a way to identify the models,
like Jedi, Jedi_guardian, Jedi_master, Kyle, Kyle_boss, etc... so they don't all have the same file name
on a side note, anyone else find its fun once you've played the whole game a few times, to go back and do it again with a few of the more interesting cheats,
like you walk into a room full of storm troopers and type npc spawn jedi_master a few dozen times and all of a sudden you have a loyal army of jedi decapitating a bunch of stormtroopers left and right, not that you'd need help killing them,
of course then you'd have to do something like npc spawn rancor to get rid of all those annoying jedi_maters,
and maybe a few rounds of npc spawn boba_fett to take care of that pesky rancor, and then npc spawn mutant_rancor to gobble up all those fetts, followed up by npc spawn vehicle taun_taun just to give the mutant rancor something to graze on/chase off the side of a cliff
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DarthOrrorin
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Date Posted:
6/4/05 4:03pm
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RE: Luke rebuilds a lightsaber
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DarthOrrorin
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I do agree, and yes I play video games too much. However, I would like to see how he chooses his color crystal and where he gets it from. This is never explained. How does he know how to build one? It's a weapon of the old order, and there is no one left of the order. And by the way! In EP1 TPM, Force Heal is not 'fabled', Qui-gon uses it during his duel with Darth Maul, when the force sheilds are up.
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Ogmios22188
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6/4/05 4:16pm
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Doesn't it say in Shadows of the Empire that Luke built his lightsaber in Obi-Wan's hut? For all we know, the crystal could've been Qui-Gon's. Also, Luke's hilt is extremely similar to the hilt of Obi-Wan's last lightsaber. He either had spare parts around in his hut or in whatever notes he had for Luke to follow the instructions were for how to build a hilt such as the one that Obi-Wan had. But I know what you mean by thinking of reasons for lightsaber colors. I don't care what anyone says, there does seem to be some time of connotation between lightsaber colors and the characters who use them, at least the main characters. Think of the main characters who have a green lightsaber; Qui-Gon, Yoda, and Luke. To me, the green lightsaber seems to have some sort of serenity connected with it. An assuredness and an indication of a real understanding of the Force. The blue lightsaber to me just doesn't have that. This is used by Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Luke. It's often a symbol of hope, like in Revenge of the Sith when Vader uses it, it's to show that there's still good in him and to make the audience hope he can come back. Also, Luke uses Anakin's saber as a new hope, which is also ultimately lost. The blue saber is also often marked by failure, recklessness, and naivete. Obi-Wan was reckless in his youth, which is why he almost lost to Maul. Only with Qui-Gon's saber was he able to defeat him. Also, Obi-Wan failed as a Jedi Master in his training of Anakin. Thus, he has a blue lightsaber throughout life. Anakin falls to the Dark Side. Luke, in his recklessness and hubris, confronts Vader and loses a hand. To me, seeing Luke with a new saber with a new hilt and green blade is a true symbol of his maturation and becoming a man. He has come to terms with the terrible truths around him, and it's his destiny to redeem his father, restore the Jedi Order, and bring justice to the galaxy, all with the serenity and maturity of the green lightsaber.
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spacename_the_name
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6/4/05 4:37pm
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Lukes choice color for his saber may have nothing to do with that. In Shadows of the empire. He builds his lightsaber in obi wans hut. Obi has left him instructions. But lets see...any saber crystals on tatooine? no. He had to bake one, yes bake one. So im not sure if he could of chosen blue but possibly he didnt have a choice...or he could of mixed up the colors. and now since rots his lightsaber looks alot like obi wans. so who knows. Luke chose green. mace windu chose purple. id choose magenta.
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theN00_Jedi
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6/4/05 4:48pm
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...also non primary colors were hard to do in the 80s, thats why the pre-special edition trilogy had a lot of lightsaber color errors,
they were already using green streaks for TIE fighter blasters, so they probably just picked something they already knew they could pull off,
think about it, the only colors they used in any of the origional effects were green light blobs, red light blobs, blue light blobs, and white light blobs..
In the first trailer for ROTJ, back when R still stood for revenge, Luke clearly had a blue saber, which means the green was either a last minute change or the blue in the trailer was a placeholder,
either way assuming they could only use the 4 shades of light streaks listed above, the green saber was a natural choice,
I mean they can't make it red, wouldn't be very jedi-like,
can't make it blue if you want it to be a DIFFERENT color than the origional
and a white light saber just wouldn't look right,
so that only leaves one color left that they had an ability to composite, green, which looked in the pre-special edition versions, a lot like a static TIE fighter bolt
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DarthOrrorin
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6/4/05 6:49pm
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fantastic post, noo_jedi, and fantastic decifering with the maturity and all. however i've ultimatly come to believe that this is just another goof that was made and was poorly covered up.
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darth_Boba
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6/4/05 6:53pm
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Originally, all Jedi lightsabers were going to be blue, and all Sith ones were red. That changed in ROTJ when Luke had to fight on Tatooine, which had blue sky. In early tests, it was found that blue lightsaber against blue sky didn't work, so they switched it to green. His blue saber can be seen in the "Revenge of the Jedi" teaser in the OT DVD bonus disc, and also on the theatrical poster. In TPM, Qui-Gon also had to fight on Tatooine, with a blue sky backdrop. It was decided that he would have a green lightsaber as well. If Qui-Gon's fight on Tatooine had been during the night, or not at all, he would most likely have a green one as well, with Luke being the only Jedi having a green lightsaber (it's possible Mace would still have a purple one, though).
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neo-dragon
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Basically, what it boils down to is that other than the fact that Sith Lords are known to use red lightsabers, a saber's colour doesn't actually mean anything. Even if you go with what's in KotOR, doesn't that game take place thousands of years in the past? Things like that could very well change in so much time.
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darth_Boba
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My very unofficial explanation for the sudden lack of multicolored sabers is that before the Clone War, many Jedi used the lightsabers that were most important to them. Usually, these were ones they had built during their training and used many exotic crystals resulting in a variety of colors. When the Clone War began, starting with the battle of Geonosis, the chance of losing their most prized lightsabers increased, so the Jedi decided to switch to the more easily replaceable and acessable blue and green crystals found on Ilum. This also accounts for the appearance of less than half a dozen different lightsaber designs. Mace Windu decided to keep his "special" lightsaber, as he felt sure enough in his skills that he would never lose it.
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DarthOrrorin
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and may i ask darth_Boba, where did you acquire all this information?
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theN00_Jedi
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"Mace Windu decided to keep his "special" lightsaber, as he felt sure enough in his skills that he would never lose it"
well that worked out well for him
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