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Valiento Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 2/14/04 4:44pm Subject: RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein) - Date Edited: 2/14/04 4:49pm (3 edits total) Edited By: Valiento
	Well, its very cool apparently there is more to the long necked version of durge from the cartoon than just artistic license(as Leland Chee has claimed). It inspired the new more realistic picture of durge in the new insider's Shadowfeed article. So I guess the best explanation is that since durge is a blob creature that can fit into any shape, he can fit into armor of any form, .
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 2/14/04 5:03pm Subject: RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein)
	Hmmm anyone think Durge's cyborg nature is actually nano-technology based? In this case the Gendai bit might be immaterial to him (though I'm inclined to think they are little more than a sentient fungus like mass of organic matter) Thus the cybernetics are what cause his strange ability to heal incredibly fast and restore himself. They might also explain how such small pieces maintain his consciousness
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Valiento Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 2/14/04 5:25pm Subject: RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein) - Date Edited: 2/14/04 5:31pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Valiento
	The portueguese man of war is actually a colony of seperate, and specialized cells that can live seperately if pulled from the whole, and is capable of reconstructing itself from those pieces, or growing more to replace missing pieces(individual pieces could specialize to create all new man of wars). Its probably as close to a biological creature on earth that is similar to durge.
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Excellence Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 2/14/04 6:10pm Subject: RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein) - Date Edited: 2/14/04 6:11pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Excellence
	The New Face of War and Blast Radius did it for me, regarding Durge. A villainous character so absurdedly puffed up is of no interest to me. Obviously, only the heroes are allowed to be feebling sheep. Check out how he kills all those Jedi in CW2 TPB. As though the Jedi have no situational awareness at all, he merely flies past and bumps them off a bridge to the lava flow below. Or he picks one up and bathes them in the lava. We must ask ourselves: is he really that tough, or are his surrounding opponents dumbed down to make him that? Seriously, he survives a blaster shot through the eye, and thus his head, and spinal saber strikes, and this doesn't lose credulity for the reader? The Ventress-Kenobi business has more promise. -----signature----- Rock-a-by baby, on the treetop, Beaming with pride, the filth they hold, But when the wind blows, my temper implodes, High above a pit, filled with sharkticons, Down will come hardcover addicts, beaming no more. ©
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 2/14/04 6:14pm Subject: RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein)
	You can see that new depiction of Durge from Shadowfeed on Joe's website, btw. -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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masterskywalker Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 2/14/04 7:49pm Subject: RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein)
	"Seriously, he survives a blaster shot through the eye, and thus his head, and spinal saber strikes, and this doesn't lose credulity for the reader?" Durge doesn't HAVE eyes, a head, OR a spine. Duh. -----signature----- Peace to corrupt, no less than war to waste.
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 2/14/04 8:10pm Subject: RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein)
	I agree, I think Durge except when he's overmuscled is a credible villain. Honestly if his natural state was a bit better explained I'd think he'd be more interesting as a character. That and why this particular Gen'dai is such a psychotic loon.
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masterskywalker Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 2/14/04 8:32pm Subject: RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein)
	From what I understand, he worked for the Sith, but didn't go completely nuts until the Mandalorians caught him. Before that he was probably a "normal" bounty hunter, just working for the bad guys. Ironically, just like Jango. -----signature----- Peace to corrupt, no less than war to waste.
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Sniper_Wolf Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 2/14/04 8:42pm Subject: RE: The Difinitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein)
	2ndQuest, can ya give a link to the website with Durge's new pic? wolf -----signature----- Winner of a Super Golden Ewok™ award. I name you Sword of the Jedi. Always you shall be in the front rank, a burning brand to your enemies, a brilliant fire to your friends.
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The2ndQuest Title: Manager: -Literature -LACWAC -Games Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 2/14/04 8:46pm Subject: RE: The Definitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein)
	http://www.joecorroney.com/ -----signature----- "When your future self tells you to do something, YOU DO IT." K'Kruhk, 140 ABY:"Why haven't I come forth earlier to share my Jedi knowledge with Skywalker? Well, it's kinda a long story, see, I had this freaking sweet hat..."
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darth_paul Registered: Apr '00	Date Posted: 4/10/04 10:49am Subject: RE: The Definitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein)
	The commentary for the last episode of the Clone Wars cartoon said that the original plan had been to do a two-minute wrap-up and then end the series with the image of Durge reforming, and then at the last minute they got asked to introduce the General instead. So Durge was always meant to have survived the cartoon, and we have a sort of confirmation now that that was the original intent. That commentary also raised another interesting issue I'd like to discuss. He said he wished they'd been told about General Grievous so they could have introduced him earlier in the series and had him in the background for the whole story arc, bringing him out in a huge fight in the last episode. The implication, at least to me, was that they would have replaced Durge's story with Grievous's. My question is this: Do you think, if Lucas and thus all the comics/cartoons/books people had known about Grievous earlier, the character of Durge would exist at all? I wouldn't think we'd need two virtually unstoppable, heavily-armored Jedi-killing machines. And however the General factors into Episode III, I'm sure it would be that much more dramatic if he'd been tearing up Jedi for a lot of the preceeding three years. My inclination is to think that Durge only ever saw life because they found out about Grievous too late in the game to use him. Anybody else have any takes on this? -Paul -----signature----- So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.
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Ph0enix Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 4/10/04 11:10am Subject: RE: The Definitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein)
	It's really hard to compare the two because we haven't seen or heard all that much about the General. I agree, it does seem like they were going to have one villian, but they picked the wrong one, so now they're stuck with two...
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Leto II Registered: Jan '00	Date Posted: 4/10/04 12:06pm Subject: RE: The Definitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein)
	It also depends upon how soon in the game the writers, editors, and other creative folk were provided direct info from Lucas himself concerning Grievous's existence, and whether they might've gone a bit lighter on the Durge-ness in favor of an earlier reveal of the new general. Lucas permitting, obviously. -----signature----- "If there's one thing I hate, it's losing. If there's TWO things I hate, it's losing and getting cancer." - Kenny Powers
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Charlemagne19 Registered: Jul '00	Date Posted: 4/10/04 12:11pm Subject: RE: The Definitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein)
	Eh, Vader and Boba Fett. There's room for plenty of new villains and honestly I look forward to Anakin defeating that dang bounty hunter. Besides Durge would make a very poor military leader I think. He's more like a thug with some experience at combat lacking in most military generals (given he's 2000 years old)
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darth_paul Registered: Apr '00	Date Posted: 4/10/04 1:05pm Subject: RE: The Definitive Durge (Officialdom Implied \| Spoilers Herein)
	Mind you, I think there's a Holonet News report indicating that Durge is in fact taking a roll in military strategy... I do agree that it's hard to compare the two, and in fact, getting right down to it, there are some pretty substantial differences between them. I'm not arguing that they fill exactly the same niche in the galaxy, just that I don't think both of them would have existed together if the planners had known all about EIII from the start. -Paul -----signature----- So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.
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