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EmpireForever Title: Manager Census and Games Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 6/9/04 10:19am Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek?
	or you get."Trek Wars,and "Star Star". -----signature----- Just remember: you could be a Lions fan.
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Robal_Krahl Registered: Dec '03	Date Posted: 6/9/04 10:39am Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek?
	it depends.... The Enterprise E would most likely take apart an ImpStar Deuce, due to shields; lasers wouldnt even penetrate the Enterprise's weakest shields. In a fleet battle, it depends who's leading which task force. So let's say... Kirk for Star Trek, and Thrawn for Star Wars. Kirk would charge in guns blazing, but we all know that Thrawn would turn that to his advantage, despite his weakness in technology. The Enterprise E would have nothing to fear from an Impstar Deuce's turbolasers, but what about its TIE Fighters? It has no missile launchers, but if it was necessary, Thrawn would order the TIEs to go kamikaze, crashing into and overloading the Enterprise's shields. Once the shields are down, turbolaser and ion cannon bombardaments would commence. Once again, it all depends on who is commanding. Most likely, Star Trek would win. person to person, the victory would go to Star Wars; they have the Force, and much more combat experience on the ground. a Klingon versus a Wookie? Wookie, all the way. human versus human? well, thats kinda redundant Borg versus Jedi? now thats a battle. can Borg adapt to lightsabers? probably not, seeing as each lightsaber blade resonates at its own frequency. blasters, probably, but i'd like to see them adapt to a concussion grenade. -----signature----- Dark Lord of the DLC You're no daisy... you're no daisy at all.
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BarryBonds25 Registered: Nov '03	Date Posted: 6/9/04 10:58am Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek?
	NO, because the name of a collection of movies has no physical manifestation to beat up the name of a collection of TV shows and movies. Basically, one name cannot beat up another name. However, Star Wars PWNS Star Trek. QED -----signature----- 1. Barry Bonds 758, I have homered in 36 different stadiums against 448 different pitchers(and counting, newest member: Matt Morris)! 2. Hank Aaron 755 Everyone else RIP Bobby Bonds #756 - 8/7/07 5th Inning, 1 out, none on off Mike Bacsik
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Happy Ninja Title: •Former FF-UK:M CR Registered: Mar '00	Date Posted: 6/9/04 11:33am Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek?
	"Star Trek wouldn't even turn up for the fight. It would be trapped inside a malfunctioning holodeck." As a Trek fan, I find that funny considering all the "malfunctioning holodeck" stories Trek has. But isn't this kind of pointless in a Star Wars forum...Face it. Half of the people here have never seen an episode in their life, and curiously enough, still hate it! Still, let's compare... One on one fights! Kirk vs. the Jedi/Sith. In one word: Depends! Yup, it all depends if Kirk gets his shirt ripped. Clean shirt - Jedi win. If Kirk gets his shirt ripped, say goodnight to the Jedi! Stormtroopers/Battle Droids vs. The Jem Had'ar - Jem Had'ar win! Hey, at least they can shoot straight! Ships? Star Wars! The Death Star would just whoop some serious ass here. Although, I would like to see a fight between the Defiant and the Millenium Falcon - Now, that would be close! As for a Star Destroyer vs. something like the Enterprise-E. I'd say the Enterprise. Although smaller, it is faster, more maneuverable, and has superior weaponry. Quantum Torpedos would serious **** up a Star Destroyer. All in all, I'd say it's a TIE - No pun intended! -----signature----- I wish my wife was as dirty as this signature! http://www.myspace.com/the_original_guru I am Jacks wasted signature... My other ride is YOUR MOM! Skeet, skeet, skeet!
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Robal_Krahl Registered: Dec '03	Date Posted: 6/9/04 11:44am Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek?
	who would win? the fans seriously tho, i am a fan of both... if you really want to know who would win, you would need to go over to the Fleet Junkies, who know all the technical aspects of ships and such. and the Death Star's superlasers couldnt even scratch the paint on the Enterprise E. or D. Evidence? sure i got it. In one episode of TNG (i forget which one), a planet threatens to blast the Enterprise D out of the sky with its laser. Riker gets a funny look on his face, and looks at the captain, saying "A laser? that wouldnt even penetrate our navigational shields" i think they're called navigational shields; anyway, what those do is basically to make sure that small asteroids and such dont scratch the paint, or maybe even put a ding in the hull. So turbolasers would be ineffective. good thing for Star Wars that turbolasers are not their only weapons -----signature----- Dark Lord of the DLC You're no daisy... you're no daisy at all.
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Trell Registered: Apr '02	Date Posted: 6/9/04 11:47am Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek? - Date Edited: 6/9/04 11:48am (1 edits total) Edited By: Trell
	Only most Star Wars weapons aren't lasers at all, despite their names. Look at how relatively slow the beams go, they're some type of energy weapon. Also very powerful, looking at how they can level cities in minutes. -P!- -----signature----- I like otters. I hate possums. - Jifty It made me think of the Amish., I AM NOT THE WHITE QUEEN!- Bassil I love cursing of any kind. - Shiri STOP CHECKING YOU STOP BITTORRENT THINGY - that afro american girl is annoying me - Omega
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BaronFel88 Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 6/9/04 12:00pm Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek?
	The GFFA > Milky Way Galaxy, so yes, SW could beat up ST. -----signature----- "Oh the pain" -Joe Benigno
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anakin_skywalker_sct Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 6/9/04 12:11pm Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek?
	I'm sure I read some big long spiel about how turbolasers are actually plasma weapons with a laser guidance system or something like that. Hot things, anyway. -----signature----- This is for Mathilda! http://www.storiesbythemike.8k.com/ - A fan site for my fiction! I have fans! I've been accused of Literature. "There is no failure here, sweetheart, there's only when you quit" ~ Bono Vox "I'm gonna need a hacksaw..."
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Darth_Guy Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 6/9/04 12:45pm Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek?
	Star Trek wouldn't even turn up for the fight. It would be trapped inside a malfunctioning holodeck. -----signature----- Pin my medals on my chest!
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Robal_Krahl Registered: Dec '03	Date Posted: 6/9/04 1:45pm Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek?
	I'm sure I read some big long spiel about how turbolasers are actually plasma weapons with a laser guidance system or something like that. Hot things, anyway i always figured they were lasers, due to the name. however, a few ppl have brought to my attention that they are not, in fact, lasers. so i concede the point. -----signature----- Dark Lord of the DLC You're no daisy... you're no daisy at all.
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slimybug Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 6/9/04 2:45pm Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek?
	Only most Star Wars weapons aren't lasers at all, despite their names. Neither are phasers. -----signature----- "No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor, dumb bastard die for his country." - General George S. Patton R.I.P. Heath Ledger, 1979-2008. You will be missed.
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Robal_Krahl Registered: Dec '03	Date Posted: 6/9/04 4:01pm Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek?
	it just hit me: slicers. the shields of Star Trek ships run on a certain frequency, harmonics, or whatever. you put someone like Ghent on that in battle, and he'll have them shut down in no time. -----signature----- Dark Lord of the DLC You're no daisy... you're no daisy at all.
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eaglejedi Registered: Feb '01	Date Posted: 6/9/04 8:52pm Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek?
	The Star Wars weapons are not lasers. Observation shows they cannot be, as they have very different properties from a laser. At least one official source explains that "turbolasers" and "blasters" are all, in fact, plasma weapons, which is the best explanation for the observed characteristics (bolts travelling slower than a terrestrial bullet, not beams travelling at the speed of light). Also, one has to consider the observed power, no matter what the name of the technology is. Laser or not, the Death Star's main weapon destroyed an entire planet in one shot. Can the Enterprise's main phaser array do that? Apparently in an episode of I believe Voyager, Worf states that the reactors' entire power output is about 800 Gigawatts (GW). Shield power must of course be less than this number. Calculations in the Technical Commentaries establish the power of a Star Destroyer "turbolaser" as between 250 and 2000 Terrawatts (TW). Most ST-oriented sources have a tendency to underestimate the power and sophistication of SW technology. There is no actual logical reason to assume that the starship weapons in Star Wars are any less powerful than the phasers or disruptors of Star Trek. When you add in the differences in starship scales (a Star Trek battleship is the size of a Star Wars frigate), and in fleet sizes and resources, it's really not much of a contest. -----signature----- Council Jedi Master, Light Side Jedi Order Favorite JC User: DARTHMOM10 Love everything, for that is why you are here. Now it's let him live in freedom, if he lives like me. http://www.thehungersite.com
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zacparis Title: Ex Manager Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 6/9/04 8:55pm Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek? - Date Edited: 6/9/04 8:56pm (1 edits total) Edited By: zacparis
	Well, Star Trek is still Earth. And when Earth is the underdog, you better watch out. And don't forget the Borg. Their cubes could shred a Star Destroyer apart like paper. -----signature----- http://raptr.com/MedievalSam - social networking for gamers!
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Eva_Pilot04 Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 6/9/04 9:14pm Subject: RE: Could Star Wars beat up Star Trek?
	To add to eaglejedi's post, you also have to remember that the Republic (which became the Empire) alone has been a spacefaring civilization for about 29,800 years longer than the people of Star Trek... nevermind how long individual worlds in the GFFA had been in space. Even if the GFFA had been technologically stagnant for 26000 of the 30,000 years it's been around (and that's a big if), that's still a 3,800 year technological gap between the Republic/Empire and the Federation. And I get sick of hearing the argument that Trek ships "look more advanced, therefore they are." This is ridiculous. I've seen 10 year old gaming rigs that look more advanced than say... a beige box cray supercomputer... but they aren't. Looks mean nothing. You can put the guts of a commodore in an alienware tower, but it's still just a commodore. In the words of Han: "She may not look like much, but she's got it where it counts." »Who dares wins« -----signature----- OMG!!! There are coloured people on my WUL!!! ------------------ Only a bootlegger deals in Absolut.
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