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Danaan Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 9/9/08 9:14pm Subject: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	I'm doing some research for an upcoming fanfic that will involve Stormtroopers. Wookepedia has a lot, but not all details I'm interested in. So, how big would you say squads, platoons and companies would be, respectively? The Wookepedia entry lists a battalion as 820 soldiers, so that leaves me with the impression that a company could be 100-200 men strong. Does that seem reasonable? And what about squads and platoons? Thank you for your time! -----signature----- Star Wars Episode 1: The Old Order - novellized on request (In progress) http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=29250109&brd=10476
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Thorn058 Registered: Jul '08	Date Posted: 9/9/08 10:02pm Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	I suggest looking under U.S. army in wikipedia they give a good break down and a nice model for any type of troop numbers. You can of course modifiy it to fit a GFFA but it should work better then using ancient Roman battle formations as a standard of comparasion. I hope this helps -----signature----- Y-wing: Behind Enemy Lines -[link=http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/28920769/p2]Y-wing[/link] We shall give you a new name, you shall be willow no longer but Thorn, Thorn Drumheller
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Slaign Registered: Sep '08	Date Posted: 9/9/08 10:56pm Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	Well, by Legacy a stormtrooper squad consists of 4 troopers and a sergeant. The info on this is pretty vague. I've looked for it, as well as a nice list of ranks in various navies, armies, etc, and they seem hard to find. The canon sources don't address the ranking systems very explicitly I suppose, or no one has compiled the information into a nice accessible list.
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Katana_Geldar Title: Former CR Tasmania, AU RPG & Minis Saga GM Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 9/10/08 1:09am Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	12 troops in a squad led by a Sergeant 4 squads in a platoon led by a Lieutenant, 48 troops 4 platoons in a company led by a captain, 192 troops 4 companies in a battalion, led by a major, 768 troops 4 battalions in a regiment led by a Commander, 3072 troops That's about the breakdown -----signature----- Jacen and the two Vergeres http://gmgeldar.wordpress.com/vergere-essay/ Now, if you don't mind, I am somewhat preoccoupied telling the laws of physics to shut up and sit down.
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MsLanna Title: CR GSFF Central Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 9/10/08 1:38am Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	Ooooh, I got different info. Went to look things up because of the CW movie. Let's see. A Squad: 12 men Platoon: 36 (4 squads) Company: 144 (4 platoons) Battalion: 576 (4 companies) Legion: 9,216 (16 battallions) It might be confusing that Clone Commandos are referred to as 'squads', too. Like Omega Squad, and they are only four men. But then, five suqads of that kind form a Troop: 20 (five Clone Commando Squads). All clarities removed? -----signature----- "What would you have me do?" "Endure." . Proud Master and buir'ika of Commander_Ducky. Alcohol is not a solution – it's a compound. Master of spycoder9
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Katana_Geldar Title: Former CR Tasmania, AU RPG & Minis Saga GM Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 9/10/08 1:49am Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	12 x 4 = 48 That's how your numbers are wrong -----signature----- Jacen and the two Vergeres http://gmgeldar.wordpress.com/vergere-essay/ Now, if you don't mind, I am somewhat preoccoupied telling the laws of physics to shut up and sit down.
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MsLanna Title: CR GSFF Central Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 9/10/08 2:08am Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes - Date Edited: 9/10/08 4:58am (1 edits total) Edited By: MsLanna
	Wookieepedia posted: In the Grand Army of the Republic, a standard platoon of clone troopers consisted of 4 squads, a total of 36 soldiers, led by a Lieutenant. Four such platoons formed a company. Tell the wook? It says that a squad is made up by 10-12 men, but to have four squads make up one platoon, there'd need be 9 men in one squad. shrug I'm a fanficcer not a mathematician. Anyway, there's so many special cases listed in each entry that it probably doesn't even matter how many men you put inot any unit. -----signature----- "What would you have me do?" "Endure." . Proud Master and buir'ika of Commander_Ducky. Alcohol is not a solution – it's a compound. Master of spycoder9
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Katana_Geldar Title: Former CR Tasmania, AU RPG & Minis Saga GM Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 9/10/08 2:15am Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	There isn't a set number of troops that make up a squad, so I guess it could be 36 men -----signature----- Jacen and the two Vergeres http://gmgeldar.wordpress.com/vergere-essay/ Now, if you don't mind, I am somewhat preoccoupied telling the laws of physics to shut up and sit down.
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UrbanJedi Registered: Dec '99	Date Posted: 9/10/08 4:39am Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	Actually, being in the military myself, the breakdown would be as follows: A Fireteam: 4 men A Squad: 13 men (12 soldiers and 1 sergeant) Platoon: 3 squads (39) + 5 command staff (Led by a Captain) Company: 180 (4 platoons with command staff) Led by a Lt Col Battalion: 730 (4 companies with command staff) Led by a Col or low ranking Brig General But that's by US military standards. The command staff can always vary too -----signature----- The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tryants. - Thomas Jefferson My Fic Flaspoint: http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/28892000/p1/?0 I have a character who is half OC and half LFL...how mess
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Rigil_Kent Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 9/10/08 10:09am Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes - Date Edited: 9/14/08 12:07pm (3 edits total) Edited By: Rigil_Kent
	UrbanJedi: Why is a captain leading a platoon? Shouldn't it be a lieutenant (1st or 2nd) in charge of the platoon, with a captain leading the company, the light colonel in charge of the battalion, and the bird colonel in charge of the brigade? Unless this change is recent ... Back in the day ('90-'94) when I was active duty (Army infantry, hoo-ah), it was more akin to A Fireteam: 3-4 men A Squad: 9-12 men (8-11 soldiers and 1 sergeant) Platoon: 3 squads (27-36) + 2 command staff (Led by a 1st or 2nd Lieutenant and a Sergeant First Class or Staff Sergeant) Company: 116-152 (3 line platoons + support platoon) Led by a Captain and a First Sergeant. Company XO is the support platoon leader and is generally a 1LT. Battalion: 580-912 (4-5 companies with HHQ company) Led by a Lieutenant Colonel and a Sergeant Major. -----signature----- An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. -Robert Heinlein Tyranny Reborn: http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/28516174/p1 Shattered Dreams: http://boards.theforce.
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Danaan Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 9/10/08 12:38pm Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	Awesome stuff, all of you! Keep it coming. Now, if we can only get some sort of consensus on the numbers, lol. For instance, Wookepedia mentions that a battalion during the Clone Wars was smaller than it later became during the Imperial age. Could that resolve anything? -----signature----- Star Wars Episode 1: The Old Order - novellized on request (In progress) http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=29250109&brd=10476
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Katana_Geldar Title: Former CR Tasmania, AU RPG & Minis Saga GM Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 9/10/08 10:57pm Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	Read it again! 12 troops in a squad led by a Sergeant 4 squads in a platoon led by a Lieutenant, 48 troops 4 platoons in a company led by a Captain, 192 troops 4 companies in a battalion, led by a Major, 768 troops 4 battalions in a regiment led by a Commander, 3072 troops -----signature----- Jacen and the two Vergeres http://gmgeldar.wordpress.com/vergere-essay/ Now, if you don't mind, I am somewhat preoccoupied telling the laws of physics to shut up and sit down.
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MsLanna Title: CR GSFF Central Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 9/11/08 1:01am Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	RL unit size don't necessarily resolcve any SW issues, Katana. Though I'd say that looking for fixed number in SW isn't working anyway. Too many different people said too many different things. I'd say just look through all of it and take what fits the story best. -----signature----- "What would you have me do?" "Endure." . Proud Master and buir'ika of Commander_Ducky. Alcohol is not a solution – it's a compound. Master of spycoder9
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Danaan Registered: Apr '08	Date Posted: 9/12/08 3:09pm Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	Thanks all! Has been VERY helpful! -----signature----- Star Wars Episode 1: The Old Order - novellized on request (In progress) http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=29250109&brd=10476
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Katana_Geldar Title: Former CR Tasmania, AU RPG & Minis Saga GM Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 9/12/08 6:32pm Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	It was the clarify the officers who led particular groups as commented by Rigil -----signature----- Jacen and the two Vergeres http://gmgeldar.wordpress.com/vergere-essay/ Now, if you don't mind, I am somewhat preoccoupied telling the laws of physics to shut up and sit down.
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Earthknight Registered: Oct '02	Date Posted: 9/28/08 4:38pm Subject: RE: Research Question: Stormtrooper unit sizes
	So what would Rex( from Clone Wars) be in charge of? A squad? -----signature----- Master to jacensolofangirl2007 Our philosophy: We strive for a 100 in awesomeness. And if we get a 90, it's still cool. ~My Fanfiction Stories~ The Guardians of Light- http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=259245
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