rebel_cheese posted:Later, in the NJO, he starts mumbling about how he wants more like the above quote shows. He thinks there's something else there, and he wants it. He wants to achieve it.
TKeira_Lea posted:The first point I realized Jacen had it in him was in SbS when Anakin handed the mission over to Jacen. Jaina would have done the right thing for her heart, and Anakin knew that. Jacen did the "right thing" from a detached, logical, end justifies the means type of mindset, which has now evolved into his Sith rationale.
DARTH_MU posted:but... but... Discussion Threads were supposed to be ran by socks
Beniri posted:He fell to the dark side when he won the war by killing Onimi (I think it was he who killed Onimi, right?)
JediMasterArmada posted:Also, Jacen's five year journey to learn about differents aspects of the Force can explain his turn to darkness.
YodaKenobi posted:There's some evidence in Betrayal that he was studying some Sith teachings, perhaps on Ziost...
JediMasterArmada posted:YodaKenobi posted:There's some evidence in Betrayal that he was studying some Sith teachings, perhaps on Ziost... Yeah, I remember them saying something about him studying on Zoist. It could also be from going to Dathomir to study the Force, I think that it said he studied the the Night Sisters, but I'm not 100% sure.
dianethx posted:I really loved Jacen when he was more uncertain about his place in the galaxy - before Traitor. I love the book but Jacen needed serious psychotherapy after that. Do you think that he's being mind-manipulated by Lumiya (in Betrayal and since) or do you think it's his own choices that is taking him down the dark path? I have to wonder about that, especially in the last few books. When he said that the young Jacen, that young animal-loving, joking boy, was dead in Exile, I was really upset!
YodaKenobi posted:JediMasterArmada posted:YodaKenobi posted:There's some evidence in Betrayal that he was studying some Sith teachings, perhaps on Ziost... Yeah, I remember them saying something about him studying on Zoist. It could also be from going to Dathomir to study the Force, I think that it said he studied the the Night Sisters, but I'm not 100% sure. Yeah, and the Aing-Tii, of course. Where he learned to flow walk
dianethx posted:I found the joking to be rather endearing when he was a kid. But it was his questioning of everything around him and deciding not to use the Force, even though everyone was pressing him to do it, to be rather heroic. I always pictured him as the warrior priest, Grandmaster of the Jedi Order when Luke stepped down, honest, compassionate and wise. Damn, there goes my expectations.
Jedi-Ant posted:dianethx posted:I found the joking to be rather endearing when he was a kid. But it was his questioning of everything around him and deciding not to use the Force, even though everyone was pressing him to do it, to be rather heroic. I always pictured him as the warrior priest, Grandmaster of the Jedi Order when Luke stepped down, honest, compassionate and wise. Damn, there goes my expectations. Well, that's how they set it up in TUF...but then everything changed. I have to admit, I really didn't see Jacen becoming sith happening...I always thought perhaps Jaina again...or Tahiri (because of Anakin's "vong" vision).
