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I was always surprised by the Lex/Clark friendship initally
Wow, that was a real shock to me too. I always imagined Lex Luthor to be this canniving villain-as portrayed in the Lois and Clark TV show. So, seeing Lex and Clark at buddy level was an eye-opener. 
But then I got so used to it and always looked forward to the Clark/Lex dialogue. 
I’ve always felt the friendship to be an uncomfortable one
Here's a real hum dinger...I feel I've got comfortable with the uncomfortable nature of their friendship... LOL!  I think you might understand what I mean. We know where it's headed, but I really love the way they get on...even if it's a bit wierd for people who know they will become enemies. 
When the date for S3 has been confirmed, I’ll let you know
Goody. We should get it around the same time, so I can get cracking on season 3. If it arrives around Christmas time, the timing will be perfect! 
As for the spolier bit...my sympathies to poor Martha Kent.
Hmm, I wonder what the explanation would have been? If we kinda spoof it, that is. 
Clark:- Mom?!? (looking very surprised)
Martha:- (mouth open, clearly surprised to see Lois smile from behind him)
Lois:- (cooly and with a big grin) Hello Mrs Kent.
Clark:- Mom, it's not how it looks...
Martha:- I'm all ears.
Lois:- Actually Clark's clothing caught fire and I had to grab a bucket and soak him.
Clark:- Erm, yeah mom..what she said.
Martha:-That will of course explain why you're standing here in a towel, dripping wet and smell of soap rather than smoke.
Sorry, I had a moment of inspiration that I needed to share. *braces herself for the rotten tomatoes* 
As for the links, Matt...I'll try and post em ASAP. 
Oh and regarding the movie, I heard the Angel star Charisma Carpenter was also a nominee for Lois Lane. Of course over at the JC Amphitheatre they are talking about some other girl as well...I'll check that out.
Edit:- Links
Here's the link to the Brandon Routh picture.
He really does look spookily like Christopher Reeve. I wonder if that's what tipped the scales.  Also,I heard all sorts of names discussed as potentials...one was Ashton Kutcher and I was thinking:-
[kelso voice]No way, man![/kelso voice]
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Season 4 is the one that's in the US now right? the episode I saw it technically wasn't Clarke flying
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Jedi_Humaira_Blaine
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Season 4 is running in the USA, yep. Oh his flying bit was for a few seconds I think..in the first episode titled Crusade and that itself caused such a huge stir.
I have seen just the trailer of that episode and when he crouches down and then leaps straight into the air...it's so goosepimple-raisingly fantastic! In fact, I think I may have just invented a term there.
BTW, Jean...that iconis lovely. I am happy with this one, but I wish we had more Kiera ones.  Hmm....there's an idea.
Edit:-My original invented word was absolutely silly! A typo..but silly nevertheless!
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When you watch the episodes you'll understand me better, it's not Clarke that can fly it's Kal-El that can fly. As that is what Clarke says in the episode
Not sure about later in the series but that clip is Kal-El not Clarke
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Black posties look so hi-tech.
Ah, I get it. I think this is the part where he's had a crazy trip at the end of season 3 and winds up crashing into the earth in episode 1 of season 4...somink like that, no Jean?
Hmm, yeah...Kal-El can probably fly but the lovely farm boy hasn't cottoned on to it, I guess. Wierd though....perhaps it's just that Clark never thought about the flying possiblitly?
Although there wasa joke about it in season 2's episode Rush where Chloe asked him if he could fly. Heheh, I love those hints.
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The Clark/Lex conversations are Golden, especially when Lex tries to help Clark's love life with Lana
One of my favourite lines from S1 being:
'Well, it's not asif she's married.'
....Which I think Clark later tried on his parents who gave a disapproving look....Lex is such a bad influence on that boy
And I know what you mean by being comfortable with the uncomfortable nature, I think it's also because we are always anticipating their friendship to change at any given moment.
Another thing I love about Lex (or indeed the Luthor's) is that they always look back on very historic characters for inspiration. I love the St.George stories Lex's gives about this and that, and the Alexander the Great connections....I think that's clever writing and I find those little bits of information really good and inspirational. I should complie a list perhaps 
There will be no rooten tomatoes for you Pash, that bit of scripting was great....I should really see this clip because I think it's even better then I original thought, as in even funnier
Season Three
In episode 2 of season one, Clark dreamt that he was flying and then when he awoke he was actually floating, so I think he's always suspected he might be able to fly.
But as for it being Kal-El rather then Clark, well to me they are the same person. Kal-El is his Kryptonite name, while Clark is his Earth name. Of cause I think it's one of those 'from a certain point of view' moments, and it all depends on what happens to Clark after Season 3, so I will wait until then before I make up my mind
New Superman Film
Thanks for the Routh picture link Pash, and he really does look like Chris Reeve. I was half expecting a really well built-up looking guy, but he certainly has the timide 'Clark Kent' look which is great to see because that's what made Reeve so special IMO.
I haven't heard the Charisma Carpenter rumours, but then again I haven't done much reading on this. I know Natalie Portman was in the running, but that was when McG was going to direct but that's no longer the case.
Ashton Kutcher No one would have taken him seriosly I'm glad that idea didn't go any further, lol.
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I only went with what Clarke actually said in the episode
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Just a quick upate from me:
I managed to get Season Two for less then half-price
Yep, I'm very happy and I hadn't seen the Season Two opener before .....But I have now!!
Also, the Season Three DVD set is released on Tuesday the 16th of November in the US. Hopefully it wont be too long before the Region 2 version is released, and the packaging looks great.
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A quick reply from me too. I will post a longer one if I can this week. I won't be around too much due to studies and stuff.
Matt, that's brilliant news. I am so glad you got season 2. Love the opener? It's fabulous isn't it?
Season 3 within days...wow! I cannot wait for my exam to be over. I am going on one serious DVD hunting spree.
Watch out, Sri Lanka!
Pash is one dertermined lady!
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'Well, it's not as if she's married.'
Yes, that was priceless ...especially when Martha and Jonathan Kent looked a little surprised. I think they were perhaps a little amused too.
Heheh, in that episode I think Whitney was being a bit of a jerk and I actually thought "whoo" when Clark made that comment later on to his parents. I'm so biased, it's sad.
Lex is a like a walking library and that is one of the most attractive qualitites about him. I have to hand it to the producers and script writers for fleshing his character out.
An intelligent, goodlooking guy who actually reads a lot and is as good at business as he is with plain old history. It makes him so well rounded and also such a fascinating guy. Seriously if he wasn't the villain, I'd think he was the best thing since sliced bread. And add the fancy suits and you've got the perfect man. Phew.
should complie a list perhaps
Aww, love that nerd face! 
Thanks Matt...must spoof more...I love doing that kinda stuff.
Season 3 and spoilers
Jean, you got it right about the Kal-El Vs Clark bit. It's like a split personality thingy to me...but actually his Krypton personality takes over is it? I guess when I see it it will make more sense.
If they hint at it again in Season 3, I'm all ears. As for flying yes...that season 1 episode was lovely. Especially when he crashed back onto his bed.
Oh and then there was the episode where he flew several miles away from home and wound up on the highway. Lex found him...that was fantastic stuff. I love how they keep surprising us like that.
Superman film
No probs about the link Matt. I had some other links that I had promised you...let me find those. Routh certainly has the Chris Reeve look so hopefully this movie will do its bit to make the Superman story live on.
The thought of Ashtom Kutcher is:-
[Kelso]Like totally WRONG, man. Like totally...ya know?[/Kelso]
I would have been stunned into silence...and believe me, that almost never happens.
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Matt, you wanna get the ball rolling? I can if you want but right now there's a tonne I would ask so it'll be confusing.
We can go with whatever you've been waiting to ask since season 3 ended. I'm up for it. Plus we could have discussions on characters, forshadowing and hints as well as episode breakdowns etc...would be cool.
Upping...and it's away!
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Sorry for the delay Pash, things have been more hectic then I thought
I’m not sure if I should black this out, so I will to be on the safe side but feel free to reply in none blacked out text:
The main thing I want to discuss about season three is just how evil Lionel is
We find out that 1) he killed his own parents for financial gain, 2) he’s prepared to do anything to his son to protect himself and 3) even behind bars he has the influence to kill/attempt to kill Chloe and her father.
As mentioned before, Lionel is a pure creation of the show and personally I think his inclusion was a stroke of genius, especially after Season three. There was a ‘behind the scenes’ programme on Monday this week and it had interviews with the main actors, and Michael (lex) said that he and Clark are very simular because they are each fighting their own destinies. Jar-El wants Clark to rule planet Earth while Lex knows he has too much of his father in him and knowing what Lionel is like, he doesn’t want to become that same man. Without the inclusion of Lionel this just wouldn’t have been possible and for that you have to give the writers a huge amount of credit for 
The next thing to discuss is the huge fall out between Clark and Lex
Well, about time I say In some ways you feel a bit sorry for Lex because at heart he is always trying to do the right thing. In the end he is only curious, but too curious perhaps. I can’t see his friendship with Clark getting fixed once again. I think the tides have now turned
I love the shot when Clark walks out of the court after saying his bit to Lex, mainly because he is still wearing his normal cloths while everyone else is wearing suits so he really satnds out, lol.
Now, the other thing I wanted to discuss was linked to the destiny part again. I can’t remember the name of the episode, but it’s when Lex and Clark find out that there is a prophecy that states that the chosen one (Clark/Superman) will have a great enemy. Now we all know this enemy will be Lex, but what I really liked is that Lex has a completely different perspective on this. For him, he sees the Chosen one to be a huge threat to mankind because of his powers, so for Lex he thinks the enemy that stands up to the chosen one is in fact the real hero in the end. And in some ways, he actually makes sense. After all, we all know what happens to Clark when a bit of red kryptonite comes his way
Which reminds me, in the comicbook world Superman gave a bit of green kryptonite to Batman just incase something bad happens to Superman, i.e he becomes evil. Batman is the only one Superman would trust to actually use the kryptonite against him, but in some ways this is also related to how Lex sees things because despite Superman’s best interests in saving the world, you just never know what might happen.
Phew, there’s still a fair amount to discuss, but I will give you a chance to reply now Pash
Ohhh, and season four starts on Monday for me, so expect a post about that soon after. Clark in black looks really good I must say, lol.
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Wowee zowee, look at all that black highlighter! No probs, Matt I can reply in non-black...oh and I can also take the black highlight off the season 3 stuff, if you'd like me too. Gotta love that edit button.
And forgive my delay too, Matt. My week has been mad, mad, mad and I'm just relaxing as much as I can this weekend.
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The Lionel character
Lionel is one of the "created characters" isn't he? But its great when they can add someone who fits in so beautifully with the Superman Universe. Add to that he actually makes the show story move on...what with his ability to tick off Lex so much. We can see where Lex comes from.
Lex
The thing that is so great is that with the Lionel/Lex relationship I see something that I have always thought happened in real life but was not addressed enough in movies.
i.e. the son trying hard to be a better man but winding up (thanks to a heap of unavoidable circumstances) becoming just like his father and in fact worse.
In some ways Lex is like Anakin Skywalker on his way to becoming Darth Vader. We know he's gonna get there but the journey is really a good watch.
behind the scenes
I love those programmes...must have been great stuff. Michael is always a great person to listen to-he's really so crazt in real life, I'm amazed at how he plays the serious Lex Luthor.
Lionel and Morgan Edge
That was a great little bit there wasn't it? Plus Lex now suspecting that his father killed his own parents...it's really chilling.
Lionel's say in Chloe's death
That last bit...I was waiting to see that and i didn't expect the huge explosion. Plus when they actually show us a lot of events with soft music in the background it's even more chilling.
Clark Lex fallout
I have to say, we all wait for things to get nasty between them, don't we? It's inevitable I know but every time there's some minor fight it's a real foreshadowing. I will have to watch the last episode Covenent again to catch that bit where Clark tells him off.
Matt, if you meant he episode in Season 3 that talks about Naman (Superman-like character that the Kwatchi believe in) then you must mean Talisman. Namans' greatest enemy will be Sageet.
Nice isn't it how Lex formed his own theory? And he decided to explore the option that everyone else ignored. It's a great way to look at it, but it gave me chills when he told Clark:-
"Have you ever thought that the real hero of the story...is Sageet?"
I was thinking...uh huh, yeah honey...yo'd want to think that.
Superman, Batman and the red kryptonite
Hey that was a lovely bit of info there Matt. Superman trusting Batman to do the needful in case he went bad. I guess all superheros need a back up and inthis case Batman is human unlike Kal El who's an alien...
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Matt, I can change the thread title to "may include season 4 spoilers" that way we are free to talk season 3.
Season 4 spoilers, oh yes please! I'd love that...and yep, black highlight those and I'll reply in highlights as well.
Clark in black
*sigh* He's such a hunkamuffin... *drifts into Clark Land*
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I have loads to talk about Pash but I have an urgent deadline so it will be a few days before I can get everything off my chest. But I will say I'm really excited
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Not to worry, Matt. Take the time you need and get that RL stuff sorted. Believe me, I know the feeling.
I have been buried in paperwork all week and today was nuts.
Excited is good. I'm sure we can talk up a storm when you get back.
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