Author Topic: SPOILERS: Clone Wars edited tgther would have made a better entry to the prequel trilogy than TPM
jangoisadrunk 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 3/28/05 12:28pm Subject: RE: SPOILERS: Clone Wars edited tgther would have made a better entry to the prequel trilogy than TP - Date Edited: 3/28/05 12:36pm (1 edits total) Edited By: jangoisadrunk
that's just it...he came from humble beginnings, just like the worst of the evil insane military commanders here on earth.

Seriously, I can't believe you think TCW CARTOON has a better storyline, and does more with the characters that TPM and ATOC. The cartoons have NO CHARACTER DEVELOPEMENT and the dialouge IS SIMPLY FILLER TO GO BETWEEN THE MINDLESS ACTION. Don't get me wrong I like them too, but I do not think they are better than the movies in any, way, shape, or form.

 

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ShaneP 
Registered: Mar '01
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Date Posted: 3/28/05 12:32pm Subject: RE: SPOILERS: Clone Wars edited tgther would have made a better entry to the prequel trilogy than TP
Joeykinn Starrunner

I completely agree. People grousing about the need to see him at 9 also miss the point that Lucas then jumps way ahead to depict a completely changed character for AOTC.

There's now a huge gap where we don't see this stuff happen.

Some character development. It all occurs off-screen.

 

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Joeykin_Starrunner 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 3/28/05 1:11pm Subject: RE: SPOILERS: Clone Wars edited tgther would have made a better entry to the prequel trilogy than TP - Date Edited: 3/28/05 1:14pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Joeykin_Starrunner
I never said that CW was better than AOTC. What I said was that it was better than TPM, and it would flow better from the end of AOTC, and the two complement each other more, and that CW would make for a better entry into the trilogy as a live action movie than TPM.

I think we need AOTC more than we need TPM. AOTC shoulda been Episode 1, and CW shoulda been Episode 2, and they shoulda made the events of PM into the 25 episode cartoon series. That's what I've been saying from the beginning.

As for the CW cartoon having no character development...it certainly could be built upon, sure, but what we ARE given is way more substantial than the development in TPM. I mean, you don't see Anakin going off alone to fight Asajj and defying Obi Wan yet again as character development? You don't see him defeating her by giving into his anger as character development? What about Episode 21, where Obi Wan actually sticks up for Anakin and says that he should be made a knight, and the subsequent scene where he and Anakin talk about Qui Gonn, and about how Obi Wan feels that Anankin should be made his equal? Or how about that entire episode that centered on Obi Wan and Anakin's relationship on the war front, where they actually joked around with each other, and seemed like comrades, and for once, didn't argue? And then there's the last few episodes, that showed Anakin's Final Jedi Trial of the Spirit. Obi Wan was trying to teach and guide him the entire time. Everything he said strengthened their bond. And then Anakin goes to the cave and receives the vision of himself as Darth Vader. Then he abuses his power once again in freeing the kidnap victims. Then we have the last scene, where Obi Wan is trying to counsel Anakin, and tells him that the greatest test a Jedi must face is knowing himself. And though it is not overtly telegraphed, we plainly see that Anakin is bothered by what he learned about himself in that cave. Anakin saw Vader, and at that point in his life, was actually scared and bothered by the fact that he could turn into that.

You don't see any of that as character development? Well, I see all that as more substantial and beneficial than anything we learned about Anakin in the entirety of TPM. TCW built on the character we came to know in AOTC, and we see the character development actually happen ON SCREEN, as SHANE pointed out. Anakin is way more interesting as an adult, in my opinion, and that's where the story should have started.

 

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