Author Topic: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
SWJaggy 
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Registered: Nov '03
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Date Posted: 4/10/05 6:10am Subject: RE: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
I think it would've been better had they added in the scene with Dooku using two lightsabers.

 

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heels1785 
Registered: Dec '03
24207_Anakin
Date Posted: 4/10/05 2:17pm Subject: RE: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
Show Anakin fighting rather than just his face.

 

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Delta_62 
Registered: Mar '05
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Date Posted: 4/11/05 5:23pm Subject: RE: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
There was a scene with Dooku using 2 sabers? Like, 2 Sith lightsabers, or his and a regular one?

 

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Darth_Takedown 
Registered: Sep '04
7359_Duel
Date Posted: 4/13/05 8:53pm Subject: RE: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
Two suggestions:

1) Anakin just kind of held his arm out there waiting
for Dooku to cut it off. Make Dooku work for it.

2) The same goes for when Dooku waits for Anakin to
block his deathblow to Obi-Wan. Choreograph this
a bit better.

 

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Azhrei 
Registered: Nov '04
23518_Qui-Gon Jinn
Date Posted: 4/15/05 4:37pm Subject: RE: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
For those who say to stop showing the lightsabers flashing in front of their faces... no. Lucas is making a point by doing it this way, in the emotion we can barely glimpse through the shadows. Anakin looks cold and brutal, determined to see Dooku brought down by any means necessary. Dooku looks surprised throughout the fight at Anakin. Watch his face as Anakin slides over to Obi-Wan after he loses his arm - he looks absolutely wrecked, as if the fight had gone on too long, and had cost him too much.

Yes, the fight would've been better if we'd actually seen it, but you would then lose the emotion impact of the duel. Making the duel look better for the audience doesn't necessarily mean that's what's best for the movie, for Lucas to tell his story.

 

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Freedom_Fighter 
Registered: Apr '05
6541_Emperor Palpatine
Date Posted: 4/15/05 4:43pm Subject: RE: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
hah, i thought you'd never ask. there's so much wrong with this lightsaber fight it aint even funny.

ok, first of all i think the sith lightning was lame. the way he just kind of stuck his hand out slowly and shot was really dumb. he should do it more like the emporer does in ROTJ, where's it's like comin out of his fingers as opposed to the middle of his hand, and he looks a lot more into it. or at least have him thrust his hand out when he shoots it instead of slowing extending his arm. that woulda looked cooler.

anyway other than that i think the very beginning of it is fine, like when ani runs at him and gets quickly knocked out of the way, then obi-wan gets in. i can't remember exactly how this part goes but i'm sure it could use a little choreography improvement, but anyway i'll move on to the next part.

when anakin gets in there the second time with the two lightsabers, that should have went on longer. that like 4 or 5 second when he has the two lightsabers is awesome, then he loses one of them and it gets sucky. when i saw that on the previews i thought it was gonna be awesome and it really was not that cool. anakin should have kept the second one and fought like that for a while. and the camera should have stayed back a ways. they just show the lightsabers in front of their face for a while and that's really stupid. they should have kept the cameral back and ani with one lightsaber and have them moving a little faster and maybe a little more aggressively so that they look like they're fighting as opposed to dancing. that would have been cool. then after ani gets his arm cut off, they could just leave the rest the same cuz i think the yoda part kicks butt. except maybe they could have drug that out just a LITTLE bit more. the yoda scene was awesome but way too short.

 

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OB1KINOBI 
Registered: Apr '05
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Date Posted: 4/16/05 10:11am Subject: RE: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
I'd say to not have Anakin charge at Dooku foolishly, or let obi 1 have more dueling time because i dont think obi would last 5 seconds.

 

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cbrowns4812 
Registered: Mar '05
17264_Mon Calamari
Date Posted: 4/22/05 3:42pm Subject: RE: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
I would have appreciated having seen Dooku actually fence as he was reported to do in all reference material.

In all leadup and background literature from novels to the descriptions of his lightsabre, we were told his style involved very controlled, minimal movement fencing. What we saw in the movie was a stunt guy with Christopher Lee's face plastered on him doing as many flips and twirls as Obi-Wan and Anakin.

I had been looking forward to some realistic combat techniques from Dooku to justify his dominance in the duel, but alas, as a poster has already stated, Dooku wins against both Jedi with relatively contrived moves (I say relatively because all moves in choreographed fights are contrived by definition, but that there are ways to fool the audience into thinking it's random and real).

 

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Darth_Patton00 
Registered: Apr '05
23775_Yoda
Date Posted: 4/23/05 9:39am Subject: RE: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
Make Dooku not be able to defeat Anakin and Obi-Wan so easily. It makes them look like pathetic fighters. Maybe even have Anakin beating Dooku with his two lightsabers and then have him trip or something. Also Yoda's part should be longer, and he should be able to lift the pole and keep on fighting with his lightsaber.

 

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Anakin_Skywalker23 
Registered: Apr '05
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Date Posted: 4/23/05 9:48am Subject: RE: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
I would make the duel better by making a starfighter duel in space and they both crash and count dooku summons droidekas and Yoda, Obi Wan, Anakin fight but yoda gets injured and so does anakin but then Anakin fights count dooku and he lays the smackdown on anakin and then obi-wan usesd the force and picks up yodas lightsaber and shoves it in count dooku (by the force)and dies and yoda easily destroys the droidekas

 

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Deeysew 
Registered: Mar '05
8090_Short Round
Date Posted: 4/23/05 5:23pm Subject: RE: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
I'd have it take place in the droid factory. Who parks their ship hundreds of miles away from where they do business? Silly.

And completely redo the editing. It's embarassing. This isn't supposed to be some mediocre sequel/prequel, is it? Put some effort into it guys.

 

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Lord_Morningstar 
Registered: Apr '05
Date Posted: 4/23/05 7:24pm Subject: RE: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
I’d go with giving Dooku a more minimal, controlled, fencing like style; it’d show him off as a master duelist and make his swift defeats of Obi an Ani a bit more realistic. And make it a bit longer.

 

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padawan-yoda 
Registered: Apr '05
24132_Yoda
Date Posted: 4/23/05 9:08pm Subject: RE: How would you make the Dooku duel better?
make the duel longer, and have dooku or yoda loose then regain the advantage like we saw in the phantom menace with maul or obi or qui gon getting knocked down or kicked and punched

 

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