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Undomiel  3491 posts
Registered: May '02
19077_Princess Leia
Date Posted: 7/2/02 8:54am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread.
"If at first you don't succeed, you can dust it off and try again. Dust yourself off and try again and again." - The late and loved, Aaliyah.

 
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PadmeLeiaJaina  11069 posts
Registered: May '02
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Date Posted: 7/2/02 8:56am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread. - Date Edited: 7/2/02 8:56am (1 edits total) Edited By: PadmeLeiaJaina
Whooo too much stuff, too many pages...brain in overload..... sad

 

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IamZam  2361 posts
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24060_Padme and Anakin
Date Posted: 7/2/02 9:19am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread.
Undomiel, and anyone else.

Alot of us are umm **older here**
How many of us have totally different ideas of love and romance now, than when we were Anakin/Padme's age. I know I dont' see things the same at all.

They don't hold up to the ideas we have in our 30's and beyond. They are still in the starting gate, and haven't yet ran the race. This is their first experience and as such they are going to be making mistakes all over the place.

Leia was about Padme's age, but had seen and been thru enough in that time to make her in actuallity much older than her chronogoligical years. She is much more battle scared adn hardened than her mother ever was. Han had been thru it all and back again and was 11 years her senior. But emotionally they were probably very close to the same age. So of course they are going to act totally different. If they had met in this time under the circumstances of her parents well it would have played out very differently.

The younger you are, the more you have an ideal, and think you can save the universe. the older you are, the more you accept reality, and tend to be a bit more jaded. Or something like that. This place makes my head spin **right round baby, like a record player...** ahh the pain...

 

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Undomiel  3491 posts
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Date Posted: 7/2/02 9:26am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread.
sorry

 
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DarthBreezy  13156 posts
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 Registered: Jun '02
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Date Posted: 7/2/02 9:35am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread.
OK Zam, when are you going to get the hell out of my head here????

Perhaps that's another reason we "older' ladies enjoy the love story... I said in an earlier post that I remember my own "Anni" in my life.. we were in our 20's and disgustingly in love... it wasn't all about sex back then either (ironicly, we started dating when he was 18 and I was 23!) but all the gushy sweet "love you mores".... we split up after we "grew up" if you understand.... 3 years off and on untill we finally called it quits for good. Funny thing is, after all these years, I still 'miss him' and when a mutal freind told me he was getting married to a gall he'd been seeing for the last 5 years (thankfully, he met her many years after we'd gone our separet ways ) I had to "run away" for the day.... I went down to the beach and had a little cry. I mean, I know that if we'd met now we'd doubtfully give eachother a second glance but still...

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Jedi_Lyn  167 posts
Registered: Jun '02
Date Posted: 7/2/02 9:50am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread. - Date Edited: 7/2/02 9:50am (1 edits total) Edited By: Jedi_Lyn
The younger you are, the more you have an ideal, and think you can save the universe

[sigh] yeah you never knew what was in store for you. but you can't regret it. i mean even if you get sad and all, you still feel grateful somehow, that it happened. even if to you now it was stupid, the way you did this or that.

movie is always better than life in this sense. they did eventually save the universe. they did win. and they don't have to drag through each mundane day to hold up what they have.





 

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Scruffy-looking  892 posts
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Date Posted: 7/2/02 9:54am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread. - Date Edited: 7/2/02 10:18am (1 edits total) Edited By: Scruffy-looking
:::peeks into the conversation:::

Yikes, way too intense for me... shock

:::flees to Episode 3 speculation:::

 
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Arriss  3194 posts
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Date Posted: 7/2/02 10:39am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread.
Like the rest of you ladies (as mentioned ohhh soooo many pages before) I too adore Hayden (don't ask my age, suffice it to say I'm over 30). There's just something about him that makes me (& my daughter) tingle. Too bad your Hayden tread was locked down, I never had a chance to add anything <major whine here>.

Ahem, as to the Anakin/Padme romance. It was soooo much clearer & defined in the book. I read the book after my first (of 6) viewing & it all came together much more smoothly. I love the movie & enjoyed how the romance was portrayed (call it the hopeless romantic in me) but it would have helped to leave either the scene w/Padme's family or the more intense "confession" scene with Padme getting to the heart of what's wrong w/Anakin & her understanding of what he did, why & how she understands him more & truly falls for him even more.

According to the book, her first real realization of her love for Anakin is just before dinner at the Naboo retreat and cemented when he's having his nightmare & how she's aching to comfort him.

Just thought I'd quickly add a few lines.

 

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Undomiel  3491 posts
Registered: May '02
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Date Posted: 7/2/02 10:43am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread.
Zam,

Well if you look at Luke_Cash's last few posts, this is essentially what he is saying about women,

1) They need to maintain the relationship with their better half in any way necessary, this includes watching their weight, any other pet peeve the husband may have.

2) Men are equally responsible for watching their health issues and physiques, but should not be expected to take part in the courtship games that come naturally to younger males.

The only difference between the way he feels now, romantically, and the way he felt when he was 20 is about 15 years of significantly lower hormonal levels in regards to his sex drive, which peaked out when he was 18. This is why he doesn't understand why women in our age group would be even remotely interested in the silly romance in AotC. He doesn't understand that women in our age group are just now experiencing the hormonal levels in regards to sex and romance that he had when he was 18!

I think this explains the phenomenon why more mature males just don't get why we like the love story or the romance. We don't sit around thinking, "Gee, I'd like to be married to Anakin." He's just an ideal, sorta like "Brittany Spears" or "Aaliyah" were/are an ideals for some males. They are attracted to the sexual overtones, whereas we are attracted to the overt romantic overtones. There was nothing overtly sexual about the AotC romance. It was just romantic!

And that's my understanding of what we've been discussing and why there seems to be such a wide margin between the way men in our age category view the romance as opposed to the way women in our age category view it.

My last post.

 
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IamZam  2361 posts
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24060_Padme and Anakin
Date Posted: 7/2/02 11:15am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread.
I think this explains the phenomenon why more mature males just don't get why we like the love story or the romance. We don't sit around thinking, "Gee, I'd like to be married to Anakin." He's just an ideal, sorta like "Brittany Spears" or "Aaliyah" were/are an ideals for some males. They are attracted to the sexual overtones, whereas we are attracted to the overt romantic overtones. There was nothing overtly sexual about the AotC romance. It was just romantic!

There is no way in **** I would want to ber married to an Anakin. I did that for 10 years, and they are gurarteed heart breaking one way trips to an emotional mess. But There are other things that I am attracted to. I can't explain it, any more than I can explain why the son rises in the East adn sets in the West. I just know I haven't been this fascinated by a love story since ESB. And I was only 12 then.

I don't agree with all of his points, but even a stopped watch is right sometimes..

Love is a two way street. It shouldn't fall on to one person or the other to do it all. Sadly though in real life it does. And I get tired of all the men think, women think junk. IT doesn't always hold water. People are individuals, not slaves to thier hormones. (well most of the time). Its all about choices.. adn this is by far one of the deepsest SW discussions I've ever been on.. YIKES..


 

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HappyPlace  124 posts
Registered: Jun '02
Date Posted: 7/2/02 11:17am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread.
My last post.

No, Undomiel! What would we do with your eloquent posts for the rest of the day? You DID only mean the last post for the day, right? shock

 
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IamZam  2361 posts
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Date Posted: 7/2/02 11:22am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread.
Ahem, as to the Anakin/Padme romance. It was soooo much clearer & defined in the book. I read the book after my first (of 6) viewing & it all came together much more smoothly. I love the movie & enjoyed how the romance was portrayed (call it the hopeless romantic in me) but it would have helped to leave either the scene w/Padme's family or the more intense "confession" scene with Padme getting to the heart of what's wrong w/Anakin & her understanding of what he did, why & how she understands him more & truly falls for him even more

ITA. It would have added so much more to an already wonderful, sad, complex love story. I loved the confession scene, but I admit to being dissapointed that it wasnt' as intense as in the book or even the graphic novel.

AS for our little Hayden appreciation society. Check my sig or Breezy's. WE've moved and you are welcome to come over and join the pool party if you havne't already. I gotta stop sleeping at night.

I've noticed that the number of women who gaga over the love story far outweight the men. Especially as the age of the viewer gets older. Not always. but often. I think it depends largely on your experience and how close you are willing to look at the character. Do you look for the deeper psychological aspects of the characters or do you just see the obnoxious bad boy with a 'tude, who wins the cold unemotional ice queen. (Gee sounds almost in some ways like a nother couple I know of and love to pieces..hmmmm)

 

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Anakin didn't just fall - he was pushed
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HappyPlace  124 posts
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Date Posted: 7/2/02 11:22am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread.
and this is by far one of the deepest SW discussions I've ever been on.. YIKES..

LOL, Zam, maybe we should return to "oh, Hayden/Anakin is SOOO hot, THAT'S why Padme loves him"! wink Reasons, shmeasons, who needs to delve into this too deeply? (I'm kidding, BTW!)

 
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IamZam  2361 posts
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Date Posted: 7/2/02 11:25am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread.
Undomiel,

NOO don't leave us. You are comming back later right?? I miss you already.. happy tongue

 

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Anakin didn't just fall - he was pushed
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Jedi_Lyn  167 posts
Registered: Jun '02
Date Posted: 7/2/02 11:26am Subject: RE: **Official** Love Story discussion thread.
ok this may be too early but for whichever lady who is going to bed, (some point today i mean) here is my bed time song for ya:

A Pillow of Winds - pink floyd

A cloud of eider down
Draws around me softening the sound
Sleepy time in my life
With my love by my side
And she's breathing low
And the candle dies.

When night comes down you lock the door
The book falls to the floor
As darkness falls and waves roll by
The seasons change
The wind is raw.

Now wakes the hour that sleeps the swan
Behold a dream, the dream is gone
Green fields
A cold rain is falling
Near the golden dawn.

And deep beneath the ground
The early morning sounds and I go down
Sleepy time in our life
With my love by my side
And she's breathing low

And I rise like a bird
In the haze and the first rays touch the sky
And the night winds die.


have some nice dreams I_Z, have some nice dreams Undomiel.

 

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