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Verry Registered: Feb '02	Date Posted: 6/7/02 12:41pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread*
	MAybe he let his gaurd down for a second, or just was suspicious about him suggesting obi-won. When I say gaurd, i mean, he Sith force coverup thingy.
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obhavekenobi78 Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 6/7/02 12:47pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread*
	Here is my answer (sort of) to the chamber scene involving Palpatine's possible use of the Force. If he did use the Force, do you think that he knows he did it? Answer: If he is Sidious. Yes, but that makes him pretty stupid or very bold. If he is a clone. Nope. And if he didn't use the Force? Answer: What was the point of the sentence completion AND the Yoda glance? I think I just answered a question with a question with a question??? -----signature----- I apologize for any incontinence this may have caused.
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Cartzca Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 6/7/02 12:49pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread*
	There is also the camera pan to palpy at the end of TPM. (this has probably been mentioned before) The pan happens when they have the "did we kill the master or the apprentice conversation", and it very pointedly looks at palpy. This seems a little obvious, so it could be something to make us expect P to be DS. a trick?
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Darth_Odious Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 6/7/02 12:49pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread*
	Very, My apologies. I was more overreacting to the fact that I'd forgotten to put that in post 2, as I've had to repeat a million times that the only point to making a clone to gain political power would be to assume that clone's place(and name). Then, it occurred to me that if I put that very large in my post, others might see it and not make further repetition necessary. However, it hadn't occurred to me that I might have come off the wrong way. Next time I give you trouble, just put up a new post, hit spacebar, colon, then lower case p. This should remind me to not be such a windbag.
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obhavekenobi78 Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 6/7/02 12:51pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread* - Date Edited: 6/7/02 12:52pm (1 edits total) Edited By: obhavekenobi78
	FOXBATKLLR "Just for the record, none of Sidious' apprentices have killed a Jedi Master on screen. " Try Qui-Gon Jinn. Maul put a nice hole in him, unless you think her survived it. -----signature----- I apologize for any incontinence this may have caused.
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Darth_Odious Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 6/7/02 12:52pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread*
	Fox, Wasn't qui gon a jedi master? Or did obi wan just call him master, but he was just a jedi knight or something. I'm a little unclear on the heirarchy.
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obhavekenobi78 Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 6/7/02 12:54pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread* - Date Edited: 6/7/02 12:55pm (1 edits total) Edited By: obhavekenobi78
	Padawan=learning from a Master Jedi Knight=passed the Trials Jedi Master=taken an apprentice (Padawan learner) -----signature----- I apologize for any incontinence this may have caused.
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Verry Registered: Feb '02	Date Posted: 6/7/02 12:55pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread*
	Aplogies accepted. It's not big deal. Theres alot of subtle things, before we know the truth, that just zoom in on palpatine for no reason. It's for when people really know, when they rewatch it, they notice everything. Even if it's a clone. But if Palps was a clone, then why would he always be talking to Anakin. And the whole "wheres the time to train a sith" is really just a plot whole in my opinion. It really truly is. But as a senator, I think he had time, because they werent' always there. They have sessions, then leave, then sessions, then leave. And As soon as he became Chancelor, he didn't have an apprentis, and recruited an already force master in dooku. So maybe it's not a plot whol. shrugs
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Cartzca Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 6/7/02 12:55pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread* - Date Edited: 6/7/02 12:56pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Cartzca
	[[I think that the fact that he died in a 2v1 fight proves that he wasn't a master. obi-wan called him "master" as part of the master/padawan relationship. Perhaps im wrong though]] OK im wrong.
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darth-sinister Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 6/7/02 12:55pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread* - Date Edited: 6/7/02 1:01pm (1 edits total) Edited By: darth-sinister
	1. Palpatine/Sidious trained Maul while a senator and could get away with it. When he took over as Surpreme Chancellor, he took on Dooku. Dooku is a Jedi Master and can use the Force quite well. All the training he needs he has. Additional training has come from using stuff Palpatine/Sidious gave him. Also, Palpatine locks himself behind closed doors at night. At night. When everyone is in bed, including the Surpreme Chancellor. Yet he isn't. Instead he's wide awake in his lair training Dooku to become Tyranus. The script, which is canon, says that the meeting between the Sith at dawn. Early morning. About 6:00 AM by our standards. 2. Why did the Emperor insist on being at the Death Star to see its demise? Why did he insist on trying to turn Luke there? He's not subjective to handing personal matters. What if the clone fails to get something done right? He's screwed. Better to avoid that by doing it personally. -----signature----- Stewie: "Oh, this is an even bigger jackpot than when the Emperor came up with the formula for great Star Wars dialouge." Palpatine: "Something, something, something. Dark side. Something, something, something complete."
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foxbatkllr Title: SDFF VIP Registered: Jul '01	Date Posted: 6/7/02 12:57pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread* - Date Edited: 6/7/02 1:03pm (1 edits total) Edited By: foxbatkllr
	Jedi Master=taken an apprentice (Padawan learner) That's not necessarily true. Obi-Wan has an apprentice and yet he never obtains the rank of Jedi Master. -----signature----- Final Ranking: ROTS, ESB, AOTC, ANH, TPM, ROTJ
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Verry Registered: Feb '02	Date Posted: 6/7/02 12:57pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread*
	Yep, that's what i was getting at.
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obhavekenobi78 Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 6/7/02 1:01pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread*
	symantecs Qui-Gon Jinn is a Master. Yoda calls him MASTER QUI-GON Starwars.com calls him MASTER Obi-Wan calls him MASTER Do you think that he would have even been considered for a seat on the council if he had never achieved the rank of master? WAY off topic BTW -----signature----- I apologize for any incontinence this may have caused.
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Verry Registered: Feb '02	Date Posted: 6/7/02 1:03pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread*
	Padewans always call they're trainers Masters. But That doesn't make them a Jedi Master to everyone else. Obi Wons master, Jedi Master. Watto was Anakins master, but that doesn't mean that Watto was even a Jedi.
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Darth_Odious Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 6/7/02 1:03pm Subject: RE: *The Official "Is Palpatine Sidious?" Debate Thread*
	That was just a qui gon clone. Ask syfo-dyas
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