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Author Topic: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here!
homeless_jedi  3645 posts
Registered: Feb '02
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Date Posted: 6/22/02 4:39am Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here! - Date Edited: 6/22/02 4:46am (2 edits total) Edited By: homeless_jedi
wrong adali. you have me misunderstood.dont flame. I stated clearly...that most people think he is a good guy.

"the traitor is the one you ( majority) least suspect" that is the majority of the people.

as you can see most people think he is not the traitor, making him the traitor.

Me thinking he is the traitor has nothing to do with that observation. ok.

i am not contradicting my self here. just saying that obviously no one else noticed this.

And i find this very interesting, how people cannot accept that he is a bad person. the one that always looks like the nice guy is always the traitor. i just happened to noticed it. I know its hard to understand.

no further proof needed.

edit. the purpose of this post is to make you go see the movie again and look of these clues i have given you. and come to your own conclusions. see the movie and focus on mace windu.

 

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Darth-Jedi  180 posts
Registered: May '02
Date Posted: 6/22/02 5:16am Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here!
homeless_jedi

Actually, he is the one most people suspect. I've seen SEVERAL threads about Mace being the traitor. Now sure, the majority of people see him as a good guy, but he is not the last suspect when it comes to the people who actually SUSPECT something. Yoda would be the last person anyone would suspect really. happy

 

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homeless_jedi  3645 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/02 5:28am Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here!
I present more evidence today.


quote.

mace windu.
"perhaps it is time we inform the senate that our ability to use the force has diminished"


Yoda....
"only a sith would know of our weakness"

there it is. mace windu basically confesses to yoda that he is a sith. just by him knowing that the force has diminished he has already revealed he is a sith.

 

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Chazli 
Registered: Jun '02
Date Posted: 6/22/02 5:41am Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here! - Date Edited: 6/22/02 5:43am (1 edits total) Edited By: Chazli
You guys keep on going on about this whole 'mace is the traitor' matter but ya'll keep on ignoring a little detail: Anakin is going to turn to the dark side and morph into Darth Vader.
Doesn't that tell you nothing? If there's a traitor here it's Anakin and not Mace.
As for his lightsaber that isn't proof at all: Windu just probably needed a break from the norm and changed the colour crystals in his lightsaber to express his individuality.
Think with me: if Mace Windu was really evil do you really reckon he would make it so damn obvious? How retarded can someone get?
Ps. Excuse me if someone already put across this point but it's just that I skipped a few pages.

 
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Chazli 
Registered: Jun '02
Date Posted: 6/22/02 6:00am Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here! - Date Edited: 6/22/02 6:27am (2 edits total) Edited By: Chazli
Oh, and I just started reading some of the posts that I initially left unread and I have to say: if ya'll are against Mace coz his black then you guys need some bad kicking. The prospect of seeing someone like Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Cruise or even Brad Pitt play Mace is just sickning.
Samuel was born to play Mace Windu and he does it better than anybody else would, ever, and so, I suggest you guys stop this racist business and just enjoy the wonderful world that is star wars.
Ps. Anakin is white and he becomes a traitor to the point of killing his master whom was once acclaimed 'a father to him' and cutting his son's hand off.
Mace 'blackman' Windu a traitor? I think not.
I say Jar Jar's the TRAITOR!!!!! KILL HIM!!!!

 
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Texas_Jedi  902 posts
Registered: Mar '99
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Date Posted: 6/22/02 6:11am Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here!
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what's in it for Mace by betraying the Jedi?

 
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Chazli 
Registered: Jun '02
Date Posted: 6/22/02 6:15am Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here! - Date Edited: 6/22/02 6:15am (1 edits total) Edited By: Chazli
Nothing that we know off. Perhaps he thought that by joining the dark side he'd be more attractive to the chicks? (I mean isn't every female out there swooning over Darth Maul??!!)

 
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darth-sinister  43577 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/02 6:32am Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here!
Dooku is the traitor, not Mace.

Dooku was the one who erased Kamino, before leaving the Temple.

Dooku was the one who hired Jango Fett and was most likely "Sifo-Dyas."

Yoda talked about arrogance in the Jedi, espeically with the older Jedi. Mace is included with this. Believing that Dooku isn't a Sith or capable of doing something sinister, same with Yoda and Ki-Adi-Mundi.

Obi-wan: You've made a commitment to the Jedi. One that is not easily broken.

That is why they have trouble believing Dooku would go that far. Arrogance again.

He had Anakin stay on Tatooine because he was guarding Padme. Taking her to Geonosis is like Luke going to Courscant during the Rebellion.

Mace told Palpatine that if war was to break out, the Jedi can't do it alone. 9,000 Jedi isn't enough. Not to mention their policy about fighting in wars.

Qui-gon: I can protect you, but I can't fight a war for you.

Mace suggested telling the Senate because he's not sure what else there is to do. Something bad is comming on the horizon and the Jedi can do nothing to stop it. Yoda shoots that down as he knows that opposition in the Senate will make things worse for the Jedi.

Mace sent Padme to Naboo to be safe. Apparently, two Jedi protectors on Courscant isn't enough. And since they can't afford to send more, the best step would be to send her back to Naboo.

Mace has no reason to strike down Dooku. The whole point was to get him to surrender and question his involvement with Tyranus and "Sifo-Dyas". He only put his saber to Jango since next to Dooku, he's the only other one that's armed. And since he got away from Obi-wan, he's a lot tougher than he looks.

Mace had just had a hard fight with Jango and the Reek. Killing a living being is always hard on a Jedi. Not to mention that he's a bit drained from fighting a non Jedi warrior. Someone who was able to keep up with him.

Anakin: No one can kill a Jedi.

Qui-gon: I wish that were true.

 

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Darth Geist  5917 posts
Registered: Oct '99
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Date Posted: 6/22/02 8:17am Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here!
"just by him knowing that the force has diminished he has already revealed he is a sith."

Since Yoda also knows, does that make him a Sith too?

This is ridiculous.

 

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kampilan  2749 posts
Registered: May '02
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Date Posted: 6/22/02 9:04am Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here!
Mace was the one who beheaded Jango.
If it was OB1, Anakin, Yoda, etc I would lose respect to that character who did the deed. Well, Yoda said "a Jedi craves not these things!" so he redeems himself.
If Mace mentions his remorse/regret in any medium be it EU books, comics, or even great: EPIII, then I will really believe he is the #2.
Still think Anakin is the obvious traitor. Right after he becomes a knight?

 

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altx0022  52 posts
Registered: May '02
Date Posted: 6/22/02 11:40am Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here!
"Only a Sith would know of our weakness." Did it ever occur to you that the Jedi would know of this weakness too? Remember, the Sith were Jedi thousands of years ago, that's how they know about each other's strengths and weaknesses. By your rational, Yoda would be a Sith too, since he knew of the weakness by correcting Mace in the first place.

 

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1stAD  5139 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/02 1:25pm Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here! - Date Edited: 6/22/02 1:39pm (1 edits total) Edited By: 1stAD
homeless_jedi, that was stupid. Really stupid. You're not too bright, are you?

EDIT: If that was true, that would also make YODA a Sith as well, wouldn't it? That's a pretty circular argument if there ever was one.

"Always two there are, no more, no less."

I am convinced you have NEVER paid attention to any of the movies and are just pulling crap out of your bum.

 

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master-kevin  109 posts
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Date Posted: 6/22/02 2:02pm Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here!
if he is the trator wouldnt he still be alive insted of being killed like all the other jedi. der

 

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homeless_jedi  3645 posts
Registered: Feb '02
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Date Posted: 6/22/02 11:28pm Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here!
no need to get offensive.

yoda does not know by the way. he is just going along with mace on that one. yoda would never agree on that. mace brings it up and yoda seems distrubed. you all have to see the movie again. maybe when you all buy it on dvd you will all agree with me.

 

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Darth-Solo  247 posts
Registered: May '02
Date Posted: 6/22/02 11:43pm Subject: RE: mace windu is the jedi traitor. proof here! - Date Edited: 6/22/02 11:44pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth-Solo
Homeless_Jedi,
I do believe that the "Mace is a traitor" idea has some merit because I think Lucas is setting up a classic "who-done-it" scenerio,but come on man, if you're gonna argue your case,come up with something better than the last bit of "proof" you stated. I don't believe Mace is the traitor,but I could come up with better than that to argue a case that he is a traitor. You are losing credibility. Keep coming up with stuff,but have it make a little more sense than that. I like hearing any ideas that you have on the subject,but be realistic in your choice of examples.

 
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