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Promiscuous_Jedi
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8/19/02 5:57am
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Mace Windu has been on the High Jedi Council too long to be a traitor.
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homeless_jedi
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anakin and dooku are not members of the council. therefore they are not traitors.
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AnotherAgentSmith
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So you mean that every Jedi youngling, padawan, Knight & Master that is not on the Jedi Council and becomes a Dark Jedi/Sith/murderer etc. is not to be considered as a traitor?
Argumenting that only members of the Jedi Council are capable of betrayal seems rather weak to me.
(Dooku left the Jedi order and became a Sith Lord.)
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Darth Geist
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"anakin and dooku are not members of the council. therefore they are not traitors."
That only makes sense to you, homeless. You've made up this whole framework--including Mace being Lando's dad--which has no basis outside of your own head.
Get out more.
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Darth_Tarpals
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This discussion reminds me of my all time favorite activity.. running my head into a brick wall repeatedly! 
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darth-sinister
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All I can say is....
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AnotherAgentSmith
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Lol @ Darth_Tarpals and darth-sinister.
(Now where's that headache medicine?  )
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homeless_jedi
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the following are quotes from the_gatherer.
We all thought it was pretty obvious that Count Dooku, just before he left the Jedi Order, deleted the planet Kamino from the Jedi Archives. However, in the DVD commentary of Attack of the Clones, George Lucas says that whoever deleted the info is a mystery, which will be resolved in Episode
III.
Perhaps it wasn't Dooku after all?
Perhaps this could lend credence to the popular fan theory / rumour that Mace Windu is a traitor?!
What are your thoughts???
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Wild_Huntress
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It's a good theory and if it comes true it'd be such a twist, but I still don't see it. I sooner see it being Anakin, who we know is already in a shady situation, in league with Palpatine and powerful enough in the Force to do all sorts of stuff.
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NinthSith
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I do think its possible for Windu to have erased the files but not for intentionaly bad purposes.I think Qui-Gon, Dooku,and Windu are up to something.
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Am_Calmiluath
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11/18/02 9:02am
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Bingo NithSith!
Looka t the deleted scene on the DVD where Mace walks Obi Wan to his ship. Mace tells Obi Wan to have faith that Anakin will make the right decision. Seemed kind of odd to me. OH but you are all going to tell me that it was not CANON because it was not IN the movie?! Do you think it was deleted because it gave too much away?
I was also ery surprised that they all just let Annie take on his own mission without any question. Another example of how the Jedi were under the influence of the Sith too. But that's a great topic for another thread!!
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JeffKenobi
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Many people believe there must be some fantastic twist in Episode III to make the series complete. All SW movies are fairly straight-forward and it is pretty easy to tell the good guys from the bad guys. It's just not Lucas's style.
If its twists you want, maybe they could get M. Night Shyamalan to do Episodes 7-9.
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homeless_jedi
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11/19/02 12:23am
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DARTH KLTULU..HAS OFFERED HIS PROOF IN ANOTHER THREAD..even proving that my theory has substancial..heavy weight.
1) The knowing concerned look shared by BOTH Dooku and Mace when Jango (the ORIGINAL source for the future clone armies to become storm troopers) is decapitated. Watch it again and again. This was not part of the plan, and it will most likely have something to do with the inferior storm troopers seen later in the OT.
2) The most convincing evidence is when Dooku makes the comment that Mace Windu is "worthy of recognition in the ARCHIVES of the Jedi Order".
Dooku has clearly betrayed Mace. Mace was some how part of a dark plot - probably under the premise that the Dark Side is growing stronger while the Jedi grow weaker.
Something must be done.
Mace is the leader, and Mace makes a WRONG decision.
He's not evil.. just desperate for a solution.
One which Palpatine was more than happy to provide.
This is conclusive proof.
once again. i was laughed at..and it seems that people are watching the movie a lot more now..that's on dvd..but this is something i knew..long time ago..
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ksid
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Hmmmmm....This is interesting and it could be true.
Maybe he is some kind of tragic hero/villian.
Have you noticed the way he always looks at Yoda? And at Anakin in TPM.
Maybe he is in cahoots with Palpatine and doesn't want anyone to know about it. But Anakin kills him in the end.
Plus, why would they want to put Annie and Padme together? They would know that putting their teenage hormones together would mean all hell would break loose? That it's a recipe for trouble, since the Jedi's aren't allowed to marry or consumate love.
Ponder on this, I will.......
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Oakessteve
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11/19/02 2:06am
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Wait until Episode III's out before you start getting smug, homeless_jedi.
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