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LukeSkywalker89  101 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 6:56pm Subject: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the digital one. IMO the old puppet Yoda was my favorite. The old Yoda had a much bigger role, and many more fascinating qoutes then the new digital one. What's your opinion?

 

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ST-TPM-ASF-TNE  18582 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 6:59pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
CG Yoda. It will always be the same Yoda to me no matter what they use to show him onscreen, but seeing high-shots of Yoda walking, and seeing more lifelike movements made me enjoy CG much better.

 

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CuppaJoe  3953 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:01pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
CG.

 

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Durwood  5267 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:01pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
I like the character. How he's realized on screen is irrelevant to me.

 

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DINVADER26  2585 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:02pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
A lot of people are going to like the puppet more for nostalgic reasons, that's the Yoda they grew up with.

 

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Rebel Scumb  11889 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:04pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
I like the old puppet better, I don't totally agree with durwood, to me the technology used to create a movie creature is sort of like which actor portrays them, that said the writing is still the most important part, and I don't feel Yoda is written very well in the PT or has anything very important to say or do, ulitmately that is why I find the newer Yodas to be less impressive, because he feels gratitiuis and unimportant at this point.

 

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jedi-jeff  951 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:11pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
I was a real skeptic of the CG Yoda. However, after seeing the film at the theater and on DVD, I realy liked the CG version which still showed many characteristics of the puppet but has realistic mobility.

 
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LukeSkywalker89  101 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:13pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
I totally agree with you Rebel Scumb. Yoda's portrayal in the PT has a lot to be desired.

 

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LukeSkywalker89  101 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:14pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
jedi-jeff: It's not just about how he looks. It's also about his portrayal in the plot.

 

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ST-TPM-ASF-TNE  18582 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:14pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
I too was skeptic of CG Yoda the first time I heard about it. However, I was very pleased at how well detailed he was, and how true ILM kept Yoda to Frank Oz's original work in the OT.

 

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DINVADER26  2585 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:19pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
What more do you guys want Yoda to do in the plot?

 

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Rebel Scumb  11889 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:23pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
I jsut find all the jedi do is sit around and say "this is troubling" or "difficult to see this is" I don't like them, and I won't feel bad when they die, the stuff Yoda says in ESB is truly magical and philospical and brilliant and right now it jsut feels like yoda is in the pT because most fans would be mad if he wasn't, but so far I don't think he's really been nessesary in anyway, I think that AOTC and TPM could just have easily been written without his presence and the plot would remain more or less unchanged.

 

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rumsmuggler  18275 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:33pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
Yoda looks good in CG form...

 

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LukeSkywalker89  101 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:37pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
The problem is Yoda doesn't have a big enough part in the PT plots.

 

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Rebel Scumb  11889 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:37pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital - Date Edited: 12/22/02 7:38pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Rebel Scumb
Or he's in the films mroe then he should be, considering his importance.

I think he looks good excpet int he close ups, Its not ILMs best work IMHO, I think the geonosisans, kamanions, jar jar, and especially watto are all superior.

It might of been a good idea to mix cgi and the puppet.

The thing that really surprised me when I watched 'puppets to pixels' was that they didn't use motion cpature in anyway with frank oz. I figured they would rig somekind of version of the puppet, sans skin, with all the little dots on all the joints then have frank oz puppeteer as per usual, seems like an easier way to do it, plu you get the frank oz effect. Meh what do I know.

 

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GENERAL_FEL  971 posts
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Date Posted: 12/22/02 7:53pm Subject: RE: Which Yoda do you like best; the old puppet or the new digital
I like Yoda, plain and simple. As one of the thousands of original Star Wars fans (I hate to sound elitest, but many of you weren't even born when the OT came out.), I grew up with the puppet Yoda. I was never skeptical of the CG Yoda concept. To me, it was only natural for the sake of making Yoda seem like...well, less of a puppet. And you know what? It worked. Yoda rocks in AOTC.

 

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