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MWStover
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I try to produce 1,000 words of finished content (that is, not first draft crap, but polished final work) per day, or a bit more, if possible. I shoot for 10,000 words a week -- which would, if I could keep it up, allow me to complete a hardcover-length novel in about three months. Unfortunately, there are always delays, blind alleys, all manner of material that ends up being unacceptable for one reason or another and must be cut out. I usually end up producing something like triple the number of words that end up in the book (once all the deleted stuff is figured in).
Which is part of why I'm such a slow writer. The rest of the problem is my ongoing struggle with my health (which, before anyone asks, is actually unusually good right now, and keeps getting stronger, so these days I'm cranking right along).
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Worm5
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Hello Mr. Stover. I'm a big fan of your work, and eagerly anticipating CBK and LSatSM, and so on and so forth.
I just started reading Heroes Die again, and every time I read this part at the beginning, it kind of drives me nuts, and I'm hoping you might be willing to clear it up for me. I know you don't comment on what you've written, but this is more of a technical detail kind of thing, not a 'Is Ma'elKoth supposed to be the bad guy or what?' kind of thing, so I'm hoping I'll get an answer . . . Anyway. On page 35, when talking about the nets that come to play a very large role in the rest of the book, Konnos says, "Silver is a nearly perfect channel for magickal force - gold is better, but I'm only a poor researcher . . . ". In Blade of Tyshalle, we see that seven years later, silver nets have become fairly commonplace/well known, but we never hear anything about gold nets again, though the above quote seems to very strongly imply that they'd be better. I'm just wondering, is there a reason we never see gold nets? Or was that just kind of a throwaway line, and you forgot about it? Also, come to think of it, Konnos also says that without griffinstones, a silver net is "Hardly proof against a determined effort by a powerful thaumaturge." In the books, I'm pretty sure we never see anyone able to penetrate a silver net with any magical effect. I can't remember offhand; do we simply never see a silver net used without an attached griffinstone as a powersource? Or is this another possible continuity error?
I also want to ask if either of these facts might play a role in CBK, but I know I won't get an answer to that, so I won't bother.
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luec3493
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Matt I loved reading revenage of the sith how close are you to finshing up shadows of mindor.
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MWStover
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Worm5 posted: Hello Mr. Stover. I'm a big fan of your work, and eagerly anticipating CBK and LSatSM, and so on and so forth.
I just started reading Heroes Die again, and every time I read this part at the beginning, it kind of drives me nuts, and I'm hoping you might be willing to clear it up for me. I know you don't comment on what you've written, but this is more of a technical detail kind of thing, not a 'Is Ma'elKoth supposed to be the bad guy or what?' kind of thing, so I'm hoping I'll get an answer . . . Anyway. On page 35, when talking about the nets that come to play a very large role in the rest of the book, Konnos says, "Silver is a nearly perfect channel for magickal force - gold is better, but I'm only a poor researcher . . . ". In Blade of Tyshalle, we see that seven years later, silver nets have become fairly commonplace/well known, but we never hear anything about gold nets again, though the above quote seems to very strongly imply that they'd be better. I'm just wondering, is there a reason we never see gold nets? Or was that just kind of a throwaway line, and you forgot about it? Also, come to think of it, Konnos also says that without griffinstones, a silver net is "Hardly proof against a determined effort by a powerful thaumaturge." In the books, I'm pretty sure we never see anyone able to penetrate a silver net with any magical effect. I can't remember offhand; do we simply never see a silver net used without an attached griffinstone as a powersource? Or is this another possible continuity error?
I also want to ask if either of these facts might play a role in CBK, but I know I won't get an answer to that, so I won't bother.
On this one, I will indeed give an answer. It lies in the silver netting's functional similarity to an Earthly Faraday cage; silver is a more efficient conductor of electricity than is, for example, copper, and gold is better yet (platinum, I believe, is better still, but you get the point). Given the electrochemical nature of human nerve impulse, the idea is that the interaction between matter and Flow--a product of a living nervous system, you might recall--must be at least partially electromagnetic in nature. Hence the Faraday cage as a defense against types of magick that seek to directly influence the human mind and/or nervous system. Won't save you from a Firebolt, or a magickal weapon (as we see in Caine's duel with Berne on Day Seven), but it'll stop all manner of Suggestions and Charms and render one immune to the effects of Cloaks (etc.).
The reason for the griffinstone power source is that I was informed by the hardcore electronics geek who served as my resource on Faraday cages, is that a simple metal framework will only partially interfere with electromagnetic impulses unless the "gaps" in the framework are smaller than (if I'm recalling this correctly) the wavelength of the incoming impulse; it works by inducted vortices of counterforce that cancel the impulse. Since, however, the incoming impulses of magick are not strictly electromagnetic, the shielding only becomes efficient in the presence of either an external ground (which is problematic, with magick), or a source of power to increase the incidence of vortex formation; also, such shielding is only perfect if the conducting material is a perfect conductor . . .
At any rate, people on Overworld use silver for very simple, pragmatic reasons: it is vastly less expensive than gold, and somewhat more durable (in terms of hardness and resistance to hard usage). It's the same reason we use copper for wiring instead of silver, if you follow me.
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MWStover
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luec3493 posted: Matt I loved reading revenage of the sith how close are you to finshing up shadows of mindor.
Soon.
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Worm5
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MWStover posted: On this one, I will indeed give an answer. It lies in the silver netting's functional similarity to an Earthly Faraday cage; silver is a more efficient conductor of electricity than is, for example, copper, and gold is better yet (platinum, I believe, is better still, but you get the point). Given the electrochemical nature of human nerve impulse, the idea is that the interaction between matter and Flow--a product of a living nervous system, you might recall--must be at least partially electromagnetic in nature. Hence the Faraday cage as a defense against types of magick that seek to directly influence the human mind and/or nervous system. Won't save you from a Firebolt, or a magickal weapon (as we see in Caine's duel with Berne on Day Seven), but it'll stop all manner of Suggestions and Charms and render one immune to the effects of Cloaks (etc.).
The reason for the griffinstone power source is that I was informed by the hardcore electronics geek who served as my resource on Faraday cages, is that a simple metal framework will only partially interfere with electromagnetic impulses unless the "gaps" in the framework are smaller than (if I'm recalling this correctly) the wavelength of the incoming impulse; it works by inducted vortices of counterforce that cancel the impulse. Since, however, the incoming impulses of magick are not strictly electromagnetic, the shielding only becomes efficient in the presence of either an external ground (which is problematic, with magick), or a source of power to increase the incidence of vortex formation; also, such shielding is only perfect if the conducting material is a perfect conductor . . .
At any rate, people on Overworld use silver for very simple, pragmatic reasons: it is vastly less expensive than gold, and somewhat more durable (in terms of hardness and resistance to hard usage). It's the same reason we use copper for wiring instead of silver, if you follow me.
Okay, I believe I follow you. So, as I suspected, but couldn't remember for certain, it sounds like a silver net without a griffinstone might be useful, especially as a surprise, but hardly the end-all-be-all of rendering thaumaturges powerless that the griffinstone-powered nets are, and we simply don't see anyone using a net without a griffinstone. Makes sense.
Also, I believe you answered my question neatly, while raising another. So, it sounds like, yes, a gold net would be more effective than a silver net (in terms of magickal shielding, if not durability), but there would be no practical point in making one, since, as we've seen, silver gets the job done just fine. However, something else occurred to me, when you mentioned that, 'Such shielding is only perfect if the conducting material is a perfect conductor . . .'. Now, I'll be the first to admit that I'm pretty ignorant of physics, but I feel pretty confidant that there's no such thing as a perfect conductor. Which implies that there is some upper limit to a silver net's usefulness. Would this simply be an academic footnote, as in, yes, it is theoretically possible to plant a Charm or Suggestion through a silver net, given enough brute force, but nobody could ever possibly be that powerful?
It makes me wonder, because (and I could be interpreting this wrong), it seemed that at the end of Heroes Die, even Pallas Ril with the power of Chambaraya couldn't penetrate her silver net; the Shield she threw up was constrained by the silver net that had been covering her, and only when she physically destroys the net (like your example of how a net wouldn't be proof against a Fireball) is she open to the full power of Chambaraya; you said that the net had 'restrained her power'. Or is the a catch-22 type situation? The net had restrained her because it prevented her from accessing the power of Chambaraya; had she had access to the power to begin with, the net couldn't have stopped her, but she can't access the power until she's free from the net . . .
Well, anyway, that's really neither here nor there, I suppose, and it seems like perhaps I'm drifting into territory that you won't comment on. The point that I was circuitously making my way toward was, exactly how high is the limit of a 'non-perfect' conductor? I mean, take, for example, the Ascended Ma'elKoth from the end of BoT. It seems fairly clear that he is pretty much the most powerful entity in the history of Overworld, yet, as an avatar of the 'Flowmind', his power is by definition, an aspect of Flow (which makes sense, given that Flow is the basis of reality). So, would he be unable to influence/affect people or objects within a silver net? Or is his power such that it would be no barrier? For that matter, come to think of it, how about within the Donjon?
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MWStover
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Worm5 posted: The net had restrained her because it prevented her from accessing the power of Chambaraya; had she had access to the power to begin with, the net couldn't have stopped her, but she can't access the power until she's free from the net . . .
Roughly speaking: bingo.
As far as the Ascended Ma'elKoth goes, it's useful to bear in mind that the "frequencies" of Flow that are affected by anti-magick technology are only those most commonly used to produce magickal effects (like, for example, the screen in your microwave's door is a perfectly fucntional barrier against microwaves, but light passes easily through it--and it'd be no barrier at all to, say, gamma radiation). In Blade of Tyshalle, Deliann specifically notes that the Donjon rock (impervious to all the conventionally useful "frequencies" of Flow) is transparent to "black Flow," the energy that Caine seems to channel, which Deliann metaphorically characterizes as "the energy of Change itself."
From my point of view, it's also interesting that I wrote all that before astronomers discovered the accelerating expansion of the Universe, and hypothesized that it is due to "dark energy" . . . which certainly sounds to me like it might be related to black Flow.
But maybe that's just me.
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MWStover posted:
luec3493 posted: Matt I loved reading revenage of the sith how close are you to finshing up shadows of mindor.
Soon.
*dances with joy*
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Damn.
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Nice...
Im assuming thats a young Caine on the cover ?
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Mast,
thanks for making my day. I hadn't seen the cover yet. It looks awesome.
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Has everyone by now seen the official Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor cover?
It's also pretty sweet...
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the two most anticipated books of the year, both with amazing covers.
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JediHobbit posted: the two most anticipated books of the year, both with amazing covers.
I don't know why people keep think I'm kidding about taking a week off from work to read both books...
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