Author Topic: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread
Dev Sibwarra 
Registered: Jun '99
Date Posted: 6/2/02 9:23am Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread - Date Edited: 6/2/02 9:24am (1 edits total) Edited By: Dev Sibwarra
LOL. I usually start getting annoyed when I realize they can't spell even simple names. Most of the stores here have Blade of Tyshalle shelved, but not Heroes Die.

 

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ParanoidAni-droid 
Registered: Nov '01
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Date Posted: 6/2/02 9:33pm Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread - Date Edited: 6/2/02 9:34pm (1 edits total) Edited By: ParanoidAni-droid

laugh @ Mastadge ! I love how you've taken it upon yourself to spread the word to unsupecting customers! My friend and I do the exact same thing with Neil Gaiman. We order books whenever possible and if we see someone in the fanstasy section struggling to find something worth while to read, well, let's just say the poor blokes never know what hit them! mischief A bookstore once installed a whole trade paperback section thanks to us. happy

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Caine 
Registered: Mar '02
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Date Posted: 6/6/02 10:11pm Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread

laugh

I live in Fairfax, VA, and all the franchise stores (Borders, Barnes & Noble) here carry MWS' stuff, although I haven't checked Waldenbooks or b.dalton.

HD was on the shelves a couple months back but they've removed HD to make room for the BoT paperback lately. Personally, I think if you're going to have BoT on the shelf, you should have at least one copy of HD there as well.

 

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Patches 
Registered: Mar '02
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Date Posted: 6/9/02 10:19am Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread
I recently picked up both Heroes Die and Blade of Tyshalle at my local Borders. I have to read some crappy book for my Euro class first, but I should have them finished soon enough.

 

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Fire_Light 
Registered: Mar '02
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Date Posted: 6/13/02 2:13pm Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread
Does anyone have any recommendations for a Stover-newbie? I'm getting psyched for Traitor and I'm thinking of reading some of his other books beforehand.

 

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Dev Sibwarra 
Registered: Jun '99
Date Posted: 6/13/02 3:21pm Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread
He's only had a few books published, Fire_Light. Heroes Die is becoming hard to find, but it's probably the best place to start.

 

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Mastadge 
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Date Posted: 6/13/02 3:59pm Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread
He's got two books in print:

Heroes Die, and Blade of Tyshalle. Heroes Die comes first.

 

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Fire_Light 
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Date Posted: 6/13/02 4:08pm Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread
Ok Heroe's Die it is then.

 

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Mastadge 
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Date Posted: 6/17/02 7:29pm Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread
Note: This topic is Gandolf Approved©.

Many of you know about the situation with Matthew Woodring Stover's The Real Flash Gordon. And many of you probably do not. Either way, I've started a petition to get it published. Here is the text of the petition:
Dear King Features Syndicate,

We are unhappy with the way the novel The Real Flash Gordon has been handled. Here is the situation as we understand it:

In an attempt to revitalize the Flash Gordon franchise, HarperCollins Entertainment hired Matthew Woodring Stover to write The Real Flash Gordon. Stover’s editor at HarperCollins, Josh Behar, apparently loved the story. Harper’s marketing staff apparently loved the story. It was sent off for approval at Hearst Publications, the honchos at which apparently loved it. The novel eventually made its way to King Features Syndicate, the Hearst subsidiary which actually controls the rights to the Flash Gordon franchise.

Approval for publication was never given; Rick Karo, Executive Vice President, Entertainment Licensing and Family Programming of Hearst Entertainment, decided that the book was an “unwholesome use of the trademark.”

The Real Flash Gordon should have come out mid-2002. It has been solicited on online bookstores such as bn.com and amazon.com. It’s made it into the Books in Print catalogue. And right now it looks as if it will never be published. Which is a shame. By all accounts, The Real Flash Gordon is a great read. As the author himself puts it:

In The Real Flash Gordon, there isn’t even any language stronger than the occasional goddamn. Anyone who knows me understands the profound respect I have for the classics in our genre. That’s why my book is named The Real Flash Gordon. My Flash is exactly the true-blue champion of the American Way that Alex Raymond dreamed up, and my novel works just like the original Flash Gordon strip: it goes like lightning from one incredible situation to the next, and every chapter ends with a cliffhanger. There is enough mind-bending super-science, rock-jawed heroism and plain old-fashioned adventure for five books; there is true love defying time, distance, even death; there is dark villainy of such depths as to beggar any power of description. There’s even some laughs. Not to mention gorgeous babes in scanty outfits.

Hey, like I said: it’s faithful to the source material.
Matthew Woodring Stover is an excellent author whose four published novels have received many accolades from a fan base which is growing daily, and which will grow exponentially with the publication later this month of his first Star Wars novel.

It is simply not right that The Real Flash Gordon should not be published. It will appeal to Flash Gordon fans, it will appeal to Matt Stover fans, and it will appeal to a good number of Star Wars and genre fans. Nearly everyone that has read it has loved it. Nearly every fan that hasn’t read it wants to.

So we ask that The Real Flash Gordon be approved for publication.
So please, go and sign the petition, and spread the word. This novel should be published.

Thanks! happy

 

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stevo 
Registered: Aug '01
Date Posted: 7/21/02 1:22am Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread
Thanks Mastage.


I started with Blade of Tyshalle and then read Heroes Die, I think it actually turned out better that way so . . .

 

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Caine 
Registered: Mar '02
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Date Posted: 7/21/02 9:10am Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread

That's interesting. I suppose that could work.

Which did you like better?

 

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wampa 
Registered: Jul '98
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Date Posted: 7/23/02 7:17am Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread
I just finished Heroes Die and Blade of Tyshalle. Those were awesome books. I can remember the last time that I've been so engrossed in a plot, yet also freaked out by how sickening some scenes are. Blade of Tyshalle certainly had a clear hero's path. The ending reminded me of The Matrix.

My copy of Heroes Die has an ad for a novel entitled Fist of Caine. Am I to assume that was the working title for Blade of Tyshalle?

 

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chissdude10 
Registered: Jul '01
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Date Posted: 7/23/02 11:17am Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread
I've heard Traitor has anti-religious saying in it, although I emphasize this is what I Heard Can anyone confirm or deny this?

 

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Mastadge 
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Date Posted: 7/23/02 1:22pm Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread
Nothing anti-religious. It claims that fanatacism is self-defeating, though.

 

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stevo 
Registered: Aug '01
Date Posted: 7/23/02 10:14pm Subject: RE: The Official Matthew Woodring Stover Discussion Thread
I liked BoT alot better.

Do you really think they would let MWS put anything in a Star Wars book that was insulting to someone?

 

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