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AdmiralNick22  6940 posts
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Date Posted: 3/16/04 4:27pm Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
Dan:

Is it true that you are doing a New Essential Chronology? Can you give us any details?

I literally would pee myself if there was going to be a new EC. happy

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President_Sharky  1191 posts
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Date Posted: 3/16/04 9:47pm Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
I would think that such a book would be released some time after Episode III, so it could incorporate practically EVERYTHING; Tales of the Jedi, Prequels, Clone Wars, the "Dark Times", CT, New Republic era, YJK, and finally NJO.

What I would really want to see is a New Essential Guide to Planets. The first one was released soooo long ago, and now it's quite outdated with all the new planets that have been introduced in the past years, as well as the brand new information on most older planets.

 

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Dan Wallace  569 posts
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Date Posted: 3/18/04 9:07am Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
AdmiralNick22 wrote:
Is it true that you are doing a New Essential Chronology? Can you give us any details?

I literally would pee myself if there was going to be a new EC.

Yes, I'm working on a new EC! (I hope that response didn't lead to incontinence.)

President_Sharkey wrote:
I would think that such a book would be released some time after Episode III, so it could incorporate practically EVERYTHING; Tales of the Jedi, Prequels, Clone Wars, the "Dark Times", CT, New Republic era, YJK, and finally NJO.

That's the plan! The new EC will include all 6 movies, the Clone Wars, the New Jedi Order, Knights of the Old Republic, and all the other major timeline chunks that have been told since publication of the original. I think it will do a much better job than the original of feeling like a true "history book," since the original had to come up with a dodge for why Episode II, Episode III, and the Clone Wars didn't have history sections of their own.

What I would really want to see is a New Essential Guide to Planets. The first one was released soooo long ago, and now it's quite outdated with all the new planets that have been introduced in the past years, as well as the brand new information on most older planets.

Me too! If a new EGPM were to be released I think it could be a lot better than the original. Fusing the flavor of the original book with the info-heavy approach of something like Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds could give readers a lot more bang for their buck.

Dan

 

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xoliver  295 posts
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Date Posted: 3/18/04 2:56pm Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
Dan,

Coruscant and the Core Worlds is my favourite SWRPG book and the most substantial for new content, and I don't doubt the Outer Rim book will be likewise.

I wondered about Makem Te ever since reading it in the Episode I novelization. Might I ask when you consider the Makem Te rebellion to have taken place? Something like 50 BBY, I'd think.

The original Essential Chronology follows pretty strictly the volume of material that exists, so that its coverage of the New Republic era is excellent, that of the Republic sketchy. I hope you'll be able to supply some new substance to the Rise of the Empire era (I mean the whole era, 1000-0 BBY) and give Republic history believable shape. (Of course, if I was writing it, I'd find the paradox of taking a historical approach to a mythic setting rather tasking.) You see my interest in this era from my Makem Te question.

Star Wars Insider has listed The New Essential Chronology for October 2005, by the way.

 

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Date Posted: 3/18/04 5:37pm Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
Regarding the New Essential Chronology:

Can you confirm that the images in the New Chronology will be coloured, following those in the New Character and Vehicles/Vessels Guides?

And as the New Chronology will have much new information to add, will this mean that what was in the original Chronology will be shortened/cut for the new edition?

And will you be working with anyone on the new version (as I'm sure it would be a very arduous task for one person to go through ALL those sources and history!)?

 

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Darth_Kevin  5679 posts
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Date Posted: 3/18/04 5:46pm Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
And as the New Chronology will have much new information to add, will this mean that what was in the original Chronology will be shortened/cut for the new edition?


I hope not. I would much rather see an all inclusive Essential Chronology, more a second edition than a complement to the original.

 

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Date Posted: 3/24/04 10:16am Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
"Zaarin: Glory"

Glory
the Imperial-I class Star Destroyer dispatched to Venzeiia 2 Prime, it was also the flagship sent to recover the mag pulse technology from Galactic Electronics, in the Corporate Sector. Under the command of Admiral Zaarin, the Glory was used to keep Darth Vader at bay until Zaarin could get to Coruscant to capture Emperor Palpatine. The Glory was Zaarin's escape vehicle from Coruscant when Vice Admiral Thrawn showed up with the Vanguard and the modified corvette Mescue. (TIE)

That Glory?

 

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Dan Wallace  569 posts
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Date Posted: 3/24/04 10:21am Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
xoliver wrote:
I wondered about Makem Te ever since reading it in the Episode I novelization. Might I ask when you consider the Makem Te rebellion to have taken place? Something like 50 BBY, I'd think.

Cool, I'm glad you picked up on the reference from the Episode I novelization! That reference was one of those offhanded things, making me think it would be cool to resurrect it and give it some context. (I did something similar in Coruscant and the Core Worlds with the planet Metellos, which had appeared years ago as a one-sentence mention in the great Dark Empire Sourcebook.)

The original Essential Chronology follows pretty strictly the volume of material that exists, so that its coverage of the New Republic era is excellent, that of the Republic sketchy. I hope you'll be able to supply some new substance to the Rise of the Empire era (I mean the whole era, 1000-0 BBY) and give Republic history believable shape. (Of course, if I was writing it, I'd find the paradox of taking a historical approach to a mythic setting rather tasking.) You see my interest in this era from my Makem Te question.

I agree with you on that and I hope to "fill in the blanks" a little better this go-around. The problem, as you can understand, is that, in-universe, this thing is a history book, but in the real world it's a summary of the major publishing projects that have appeared under the Lucasfilm banner. So you get weird bits like a section about Lando fighting Glottalphibs on Smugglers' Run (not really textbook material) but only a couple lines on the pre-Republic conqueror Xim the Despot. Lean too much in the opposite direction, however, and you've got a legion of readers wondering, "So what's this Xim novel they keep referring to?"

MrNomAnor wrote:
Can you confirm that the images in the New Chronology will be coloured, following those in the New Character and Vehicles/Vessels Guides?

Yep, it will almost certainly be in color.

And as the New Chronology will have much new information to add, will this mean that what was in the original Chronology will be shortened/cut for the new edition?

Yes, to some degree, but I'll try to minimize the pain as much as possible. The New Rebellion will always have a place in the Chronology, but maybe we don't need to have that section on Lando and the Glottalphibs considering we'll also be including Episode II, Episode III, the Clone Wars, and the New Jedi Order.

And will you be working with anyone on the new version (as I'm sure it would be a very arduous task for one person to go through ALL those sources and history!)?

I'll be working on this one on my own, though I'll be using the original Chronology (co-written by Kevin J. Anderson) as a baseline. So in many ways Kevin's fingerprints will still be in the second edition.

Dan

 

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AdmiralNick22  6940 posts
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Date Posted: 3/24/04 10:52am Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread - Date Edited: 3/24/04 10:53am (1 edits total) Edited By: AdmiralNick22
I just purchased a copy online Dan.

I have no doubt that this will be a good book, just like the others you have done in the past.

I do have a question about the New Essential Chronology, if that is alright.

Several months back a friend and I started a thread on these boards about Ackbar and Pellaeon's battles in the year before the Empire surrendered. You posted alot of neat stuff on that thread for us, explaining the set up of the situation.

Is there any chance that you will be including more about that major campaign, as you did in the well put together New Essential Guide to Characters? Since it was the campaign that no doubt convinced Pellaeon of the futility to still fighting the New Republic, I hope that you include it in the NEC. And, judging by your entry on Ackbar in the NEGTC, it seems that it may be his crowning achievement, with the possible exception of his victory at Ebaq Nine in Destiny's Way.

Anyway, sorry to ramble on for so long. happy

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Senator_Cilghal  4187 posts
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Date Posted: 3/27/04 11:02pm Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
"Coruscant's official population of 1 trillion is probably too low."
I agree. It is so nice to see someone who actually makes official stuff say that. Many fans just disregard that official number. Coruscant must have many trillions. Look at the large population count of Aqualish and Sy Myrthians on Coruscant in HNN, and those are only two of the many Republic-era races on the planet.



"I picked the figure of 2 billion for Makem Te by starting with Earth's current population of 6 billion and then applying the factor of Makem Te's general inhospitability. Plus, the Swokes Swokes don't seem to be all that common. (By that argument, the galactic population of Twi'leks should be about 700 gazillion.)"

LOL! What is it people like about Twi'leks anyhow?

Hey, Dan the New Essential Chronology sounds awesome. I'll admit that the original one, as you yourself say, seemed unbalanced at times, especially the heavy detail given some of Han and Lando's adventures which are really of no consequence of Galactic history (Luke's search for his Mom really didn't make a big impact on history for that matter), more character-centric stories. I also disliked the inuniverse disimissal of the Clone Wars, it was not satisfactory, but I realize that isn't your fault, nothing could be done to help it. Overall, the EC is still a goob book.

I so love Essential Guide to Planets and Moons; perhaps the best of the enitre Essential series! It was just neat. A pic of every pkanet, its people, and one or two or three native critters. It was well-desinged and interesting, and is the Ezsential book I have used the most. An updated version would rock, especiaalyy with color pics of the critters and races.


I would like to see more info on the worlds from the JEdi Apprentice/Jedi Quest books, and of course the planets of the Clone Wars battles (Queyta, Jabiim, etc.) and also the CIS planets need coverage (Neimoidia, Muunilinst, Kooriva, Skako, Gossam, Kooriva, Lethe, Metalorn, Serenno). I'm not sure how realisitc that is, but I'd like that. And a color pic of the mishalope from Firrerre would rock. The aliens from Jedi Apprentice and JediQuest DESPERATELY need to be illustrated (to my knowledge, none have save the Phindians and Sorrusians). I've never seen pics of Romins, Imbats, Mawans, Romins, Rutanians, Senalis, Quints, Galacians, etc.

Since Marvel has been reintegrated (if you will), some of the MArvel worlds could be included, like Nagi, Kindooine, Herdessa, Saijo, Iskalon, Stenos, Arbra, Golrath, Shalyvane, Skye, Tirahnn, Centares, etc.

 

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KansasNavy  2990 posts
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Date Posted: 3/28/04 9:28pm Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
An Essential Guide to Governments and Organizations would be neat. There's so much to keep track of. From the Sith to the Smuggler's Alliance. Just my thoughts.

 

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AdmiralNick22  6940 posts
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Date Posted: 4/1/04 5:06pm Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
Dan:

Excellent job on Geonosis and the Outer Rim. I particulary enjoyed the Mon Cal and Ryloth entries. happy

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Date Posted: 4/1/04 8:10pm Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
Heh, my bookstore is waiting as long as it can to get the book (just to piss me off, too)! If I weren't so busy, I'd have checked other places besides Borders to get it.

Oh well, I've waited this long. Another week won't hurt (knock on wood).

 

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AdmiralNick22  6940 posts
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Date Posted: 4/3/04 6:18am Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
Dan:

I have a question that I think only you can answer. I was wondering if you could clear up a simple question regarding the placement of an important event in the timeline.

In the Essential Chronology, which you helped write, the major battle between Ackbar and Pelleon takes place right before the Corellian crisis, about thirteen years after Endor.

Yet, more recently, the New Essential Guide to Characters, under the Ackbar entry, says that the major battles between Ackbar and Pellaeon took place after the Corellian crisis.

Could you please clear this question up for me? Which one comes first.

Thank you,

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President_Sharky  1191 posts
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Date Posted: 4/10/04 1:52pm Subject: RE: The Official Daniel Wallace Discussion Thread
Mr. Wallace, there have been a few debates going around about Captain Pellaeon's retreat order at Endor. Since you wrote the article on Grand Admiral Teshik, could you answer wheather or not Pellaeon ordered for the fleet to retreat before or after the Grand Admiral's Star Destroyer was disabled?

If it was before, why would the fleet follow Pellaeon's orders if there was a Grand Admiral in command of the fleet? Wouldn't that be committing treason, to order an illegal order like that? I don't see why Pellaeon wasn't court martialed and executed soon after Endor if that is the case.

 

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