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Valairy_Scot
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"Because it is difficult to teach you anything when you are unconscious."
A corner of Obi-Wan's mouth twitched upward. Qui-Gon smiled back to encourage it. 
"I thought maybe you were testing me," Obi-Wan said quietly. Surprised, Qui-Gon looked down at him as if Obi-Wan had been picking up his thoughts, which he might have been. "For Illum," he finished.
Qui-Gon continued to stare, now realizing that they were both talking to each other, but thinking about completely different things. That, more often than not, led to disaster between them.
"No," he answered. "You are ready for Illum, Obi-Wan." He laid his hand on Obi-Wan's shoulder. "But apparently, I am not, and need to be tested."
Now Obi-Wan looked baffled.
"My own lightsaber is not going well, "Qui-Gon said, "and I am at a loss to explain why, but none of the designs I have tried have been satisfactory."
Obi-Wan lowered his head and then raised it again.
"Can I help?" he asked.
Qui-Gon looked down at those earnest blue-gray eyes and the answer immediately flooded into him.
Yes.
He had planned to try one more time assembling his lightsaber before going to Master Yoda and accepting whatever cryptically instructive advice the ancient council member had.
It had not once occurred to him to ask Obi-Wan for his help.
The journey of Master and Padawan is a shared one. The Master may guide the Padawan, but when both teach, they both learn.
That whole section was really nice, on several levels.
Superficially, I loved: Obi-Wan mutely stared up at him, his eyes wide with surprise
I love the idea of Qui-Gon learning the lesson, too. Guess his focus needed to be wider, eh?
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azizah
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4/8/07 7:29pm
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Lovely chapter, I was wondering where you were going with this torture device thing, but this was great.
I liked the resounding No in the last chapter and Qui-Gon standing up to Mace.
Qui-Gon continued to stare, now realizing that they were both talking to each other, but thinking about completely different things. That, more often than not, led to disaster between them. - So true!
And Qui-Gon thinking he might have to resort to asking for Yoda’s cryptically instructive advice made me laugh. Oh dear.
This is a really well written, interesting piece. Seeing new chapters up makes my day. 
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well written and that Dooku so unlike Qui-Gon
Good that Qui-Gon needs help and asks for it.
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That was cool. 
I thought for sure he wasn't going to ask Obi-Wan, and
when he offered, although he thought yes I thought he would come up with a reason to say No
That was a beautiful chapter 
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The journey of Master and Padawan is a shared one. The Master may guide the Padawan, but when both teach, they both learn.
He sagged as he realized what he had been missing for days, the learning that also came from the shared journey. Their lightsabers had become a shared journey, but he had treated it as separate teaching and learning, from him to his apprentice, with no thought that Obi-Wan's own experience had any relevance at all.
He nodded, smiling.
"Yes," he said. "I think you can."
Loved it!
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This was a great chapter
I get the feeling that Obi Wan is what Qui Gon needs to complete his lightsaber  ... we shall see on the next update  
Tnx a lot for the pm 
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That was a very cute little chapter!
He knew without a doubt that in the same situation his own Master Dooku would have had him try the restraint chair and that he would have earnestly done so. Possibly managing not to pass out, but very likely not. Much of his own training had been about testing his limits, and extending them. Qui-Gon did not regret it, but he learned from training his first Padawan that he did not care for always testing limits. Especially when it was at expense of the actual lesson. The method was too manipulative and he did not learn much himself, teaching that way. At least not anything that he cared to know.
I like how you described the difference between Qui-Gon's training methods and Dooku's!
And finally Qui-Gon asked Obi-Wan for help!
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That was very sweet. I liked that Qui-Gon knew that his own master would have made him do the whole experience and that it wasn't a lesson that he wanted to teach Obi-Wan. I liked, too, that Qui-Gon is ready to let Obi-Wan help him with the saber. When the student teaches the teacher, the pairing is right.
Good job.
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Obi-Wan glanced back to where Mace Windu sat in the Throne, waiting for Eenid. "Why did you stop me?"
"Because it is difficult to teach you anything when you are unconscious."
A corner of Obi-Wan's mouth twitched upward. Qui-Gon smiled back to encourage it.
That's what's so lovely about this story. The relationship is balanced, they can smile with one another through anything. You get Qui-Gon's mix of wisdom, roguishness, and uncertainties just right. And Obi-Wan too. The narrative allows room for everyone to have their say; it doesn't focus on one person too long. I look for an update to this first thing every day.
Now if only I could convince you somehow to update every day... 
Great job, again.
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Layren: Yes, I think that Qui-Gon would keep his focus on what is supposed to be learned from the training and not push to go as far as possible with it. Aaah and yes, Obi-Wan can be helpful. Thanks for reading!
Valairy_Scot: Glad you enjoyed that scene! I enjoyed putting their little quirks into it. And they are more fun when they learn together.
azizah: Thank-you! I did have a little fun, putting in a torture scene, but since the story is about learning, it worked out well. I imagined Qui-Gon looking a bit protective of Obi-Wan when he faced down Mace.
earlybird-obi-wan: Thanks! Qui-Gon just needed a little prompting about where to look for help.
Gkilkenny: Thanks much! Qui-Gon may be a proud old master, but if you hit him over the head hard enough with the Force, even he can figure out who to ask for help.
VaderLVR64: Thank-you! Jedi helping each other is .
Veloz: All the master needs is a little help from his padawan. . Thanks!
Fifilla: Thanks for the reply! Yes, I think that Qui-Gon would be a very different teacher from Dooku, not better, but different.
dianethx: Yes, the pairing is right with them. Thanks for the reply!
LuvEwan: Thank-you! I fuss around a lot with the interaction between all the characters in a story. Often they end up going where I had not planned and usurping other scenes, but the story generally get to where I was pointing, mostly. And I do try to keep the story moving forward by putting in what they're doing or thinking or feeling. Even two people just talking are doing more than just that.
And if I posted stories every day, there would be many more annoying typos in them.
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///o\\\’///o\\\’///o\\\’///o\\\’///o\\\’///o\\\ - - - Part 15
Obi-Wan looked down at the collection on Qui-Gon's work station. They had taken apart the lightsaber assembly and laid the parts out on the outline diagram. Then Obi-Wan lined up all the extra parts by type. There were four different control modules of different shapes, seven crystal chambers, three focusing pins, three magnetic rings, nine emitter assemblies, two processor wafers that didn't seem to fit anywhere, a magnetic coil with extra fiber connecters wound around it, plus several combinations of these and other parts.
The whole confusion of lightsaber innards covered the work area with a line of small pieces covering part of the lighted design display. The only parts that completely matched the diagram were the outer housing, the shielded power core and a switch with a ring of energizing rods attached to it.
Obi-Wan grimaced and then suppressed the expression. He could not just blurt out, 'What a mess!', but he couldn't think of anything really constructive. When he had offered to help, that had seemed to be the natural thing to say, but the actual help was a bigger problem than he had expected. He looked toward his Master.
"Do you build all your lightsabers this way?"
Qui-Gon sadly shook his head.
"No. I normally start with the design, build that and then make changes depending on how it feels."
That sounded exactly the way Obi-Wan had been taught to build a lightsaber. He supposed that the building of lightsabers had not changed in some time.
"Maybe if you started out with the original design again we could find out where it went wrong?"
From the unenthusiastic expression on Qui-Gon's face, he knew immediately that his Master had already tried that obvious method, probably more than once. But the older man reached for the power core and outer housing and began to assemble it.
"Wait." Qui-Gon looked up, in the midst of reaching for the next part. "How does that feel?"
Qui-Gon waved the assembly up and down in slow graceful arc.
"Correct," he answered, satisfied. He then slid the power core out and reached for one of the crystal chambers to attach to it. Qui-Gon's design was completely modular where most of the pieces snapped together. All lightsabers were made that way to some degree, for ease of maintenance and because the final assembly was usually completed in a cold, rocky cave, naturally formed and barren of any technology at all, in the hidden Temple on Illum. But all of Qui-Gon's designs were notably simple with pre-made parts. The only thing that Qui-Gon had personally done any fabrication on was the outer housing, and that was just the grip. And it was from his previous lightsaber, too.
When the crystal chamber was properly attached to the core and energizing rods, he picked up the outer housing. Obi-Wan stopped him again.
"Just try that," he suggested.
Puzzled, Qui-Gon again waved it up and down. He grimaced with distaste.
"No, something is not right." They began trying out all the other crystal chambers and then some other ones from the work station. Qui-Gon preferred to rely on standard parts as much as possible, keeping his design simple. He admitted to not being fond of mechanical work, which certainly explained his reliance on standard parts. They began adjusting the placement and connections of the chamber that felt best.
"Yes," Qui-Gon said; pleased, he waved the new assembly. He began sliding it into the outer housing again. It only went in part way, metal hitting plastoid with a clunk that was not supposed to happen. Qui-Gon held the inner and outer parts up. The crystal chamber was wider than the original design and off-center from the power core. He sadly looked at the old outer housing.
Based on a single rigid tube, it was strong and capable of delivering the most powerful blows. Recalling the earlier designs that he had seen, Obi-Wan realized that it might have been the same housing for the two sabers before the old one.
"I shall have to make a new one," Qui-Gon sighed, holding up the probable culprit.
They followed the rest of the design, adding parts and trying them out, making adjustments when necessary, until they had the insides of a complete lightsaber. Having tried out all of the available parts, many times, Qui-Gon was very familiar with them, so the work went quickly. Even so, the hour was late before they were finished. Obi-Wan was glad now that Qui-Gon had insisted that they go to last meal after Eenid's colloquium, before working on the saber.
Qui-Gon stood up and frowned down at the assembly, its new parts gleaming under the work light. The line of components was off center and they had needed to replace the first power core with one that included a protruding rod in its shielding to give the whole weapon better structural integrity. It clearly would not fit well in a simple tube without a lot of dead space, which was generally bad for a lightsaber. All of Qui-Gon's previous internal assemblies were cylindrically symmetric.
To Obi-Wan, it looked no more or less unattractive than the insides of any other lightsaber with components jammed together amidst connecting wires and fibers and randomly-placed colored shapes. But Qui-Gon's expression remained critical. He took a flexible pad, wrapped it around the shielded power core and picked it up. His arm swept around in a huge horizontal arc, and Obi-Wan ducked back from it.
"How does it feel?" he asked.
Qui-Gon nodded. "Very good." He carefully laid it down. "And very surprising." He folded his arms before him and bowed. "Thank you very much for your assistance, my Padawan. It was much appreciated."
Grinning, a glow of pride inside him, Obi-Wan returned the bow, "I am here to serve."
///o\\\’///o\\\’///o\\\’///o\\\’///o\\\’///o\\\ - - -
Qui-Gon exited the lift and stepped out onto an upper level of the Temple. Obi-Wan followed him out into the corridor to the meditation chamber where Master Yoda had requested their presence. There were real windows out to a hazy early morning on Coruscant. The plain of buildings below them was still dotted with lights. Neither one of them had any idea what the elder Council member wanted with them.
It could not have been a mission. Neither one of them had their lightsabers finished yet. Qui-Gon had made arrangements for the ship to Illum; they were ready to leave. He pushed aside his annoyance at the interruption. Master Yoda did not summon people for frivolous things.
The door to the meditation chamber opened as they approached.
"Aaaaaah, Master Qui-Gon," Yoda's rough, aged voice greeted them. The small, green master sat on a cushioned meditation platform. Three other people turned to them. "Good news we have."
"Oh, Master Qui-Gon," Master Guiyusinth cooed. "I didn't think it necessary to intrude upon you so early, but Master Yoda insisted." She clasped her hands together, nodding her brown-veiled head toward him. Behind her Semko and Eclin silently nodded their own greeting. "I was just reporting to Yoda here that Semko's powers of observation have improved tremendously. And even Eclin, though she is no longer my Padawan anymore, has benefitted greatly from my tutelage. I do not think Semko will suffer any further lapses as she did on her last mission when she was with you."
Qui-Gon was quite speechless by the woman's obvious pride in her teachings. He caught a glimpse of Obi-Wan's suppressed smirk. His apprentice had seen the same thing he had.
Guiyusinth was wearing the wrong lightsaber.
Her silver and gold weapon hung from Semko's belt. And the black and silver saber hilt that she did have belonged to her former Padawan. Eclin wore Semko's lightsaber.
"Attention to detail is essential for a Jedi Knight," Guiysinith continued to expound on her success. She wagged her finger for emphasis. Semko and Eclin were beginning to look a little uncomfortable with their prank, which went undetected by the gushing Guiysinth, whose pride was soon to be deflated by a smugly smiling Yoda. The elder Council member had obviously requested their presence just to enlarge his audience, Qui-Gon surmised.
The Master may guide the Padawan, but when both teach, they both learn.
Smiling, Qui-Gon supposed that this lesson came in many forms. And that Yoda did summon people for frivolous things after all.
- tbc - Yes. . . . . next installment will be Illum.
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Great insight in the building of a lightsaber. Qui-Gon is not a mechanic at all and Obi-Wan, he will get the best mechanic in the future: Anakin.
"Guiyusinth was wearing the wrong lightsaber."
That last part was funny
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I don't remember if I've posted a reply, but I love this story! You're doing a wonderful job showing their journey in creating and building a new lightsaber.
Great job on all their interactions. Love how Qui-Gon is coming to realize that he can learn from Obi-Wan as well as teach him. Interesting bits about the differences in teaching style between Qui and Dooku, I can see how they would prefer those different styles. LOL on Obi's reaction to Qui's mess of lightsaber parts.  And that's a great prank at the end, bet Guiyusinth was pretty embarrassed. 
Wonderful story!
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that was nice having Obi-Wan help Qui-Gon
and I loved this:
"Attention to detail is essential for a Jedi Knight," Guiysinith continued to expound on her success. She wagged her finger for emphasis. Semko and Eclin were beginning to look a little uncomfortable with their prank, which went undetected by the gushing Guiysinth,
She is going to be so embarrassed when she discovers the swap.
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It was very cool seeing how a lightsaber is constructed. It gave the story a very realistic feel.
To Obi-Wan, it looked no more or less unattractive than the insides of any other lightsaber with components jammed together amidst connecting wires and fibers and randomly-placed colored shapes. But Qui-Gon's expression remained critical. He took a flexible pad, wrapped it around the shielded power core and picked it up. His arm swept around in a huge horizontal arc, and Obi-Wan ducked back from it.
"How does it feel?" he asked.
Qui-Gon nodded. "Very good." He carefully laid it down. "And very surprising." He folded his arms before him and bowed. "Thank you very much for your assistance, my Padawan. It was much appreciated."
Grinning, a glow of pride inside him, Obi-Wan returned the bow, "I am here to serve."
Loving this story!
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