Author Topic: Friends No More [Jag and Shawnkyr] - COMPLETE - Replies, 2/13/05!!!
Flowerlady  3400 posts
Registered: Dec '05
41083_Jaina and Jag
Date Posted: 2/13/06 4:31pm Subject: RE: Friends No More [Jag and Shawnkyr] - COMPLETE - Replies, 2/13/05!!!
TrillianTK posted:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Aww…Jag wants Shawnie to have his babies. His light blue-ish babies.
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Inara posted in responce
I should hold a contest – what about a Nuruodo-Fel baby look like?


A contest would be a great idea.

If I deside to write a sequeal to my fic AHAW, there will be a daughter by Jag and Shawnkyr in it. I think their childern would be light blue, because the blue complexion is problably the dominate gene as is the case with dark complected humans. Their hair would be human in texture but dark in color. However, my big question is which set of eyes would be dominate: human eyes or those of the Chiss?


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SakuraTsukikage  1905 posts
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17453_Aubrie Wyn
Date Posted: 2/13/06 4:40pm Subject: RE: Friends No More [Jag and Shawnkyr] - COMPLETE - Replies, 2/13/05!!!
Wow, those were some seriously epic replies, Inara. wink

 

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Inara  2121 posts
Registered: Aug '05
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Date Posted: 2/13/06 5:14pm Subject: RE: Friends No More [Jag and Shawnkyr] - COMPLETE - Replies, 2/13/05!!! - Date Edited: 2/13/06 5:30pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Inara
Flowerlady posted:
A contest would be a great idea.

If I deside to write a sequeal to my fic AHAW, there will be a daughter by Jag and Shawnkyr in it. I think their childern would be light blue, because the blue complexion is problably the dominate gene as is the case with dark complected humans. Their hair would be human in texture but dark in color. However, my big question is which set of eyes would be dominate: human eyes or those of the Chiss?

The eye color thing is pretty interesting. I've been pondering this for several months and haven't been able to decide. We know that the pigmentation of the skin of the Chiss is due to Csilla's atmospheric mineral content, so technically, if humans lived on Csilla for thousands of years, I think they too would start changing colors.

In fact, what I think is that the affect of the atmospheric minerals is so strong that it takes over whatever the natural pigmentation might have been for a Chiss. Same thing with eye colors, which is a reaction with the oxygen. I think underneath the red phosporescence and blue pigment is a baseline human color, like white skin and green eyes, whose colors gave away to the mutated red.

Now, assuming that Chiss are baseline humans, in a child of Chiss/Human parents, the eyes would be mildly phosphorescent but not red.

Of course this is all one big guess. In September, I started this thread on Chiss/Human offspring in the literature forum, so check it out and see what other people suggested.



SakuraTsukikage posted:
Wow, those were some seriously epic replies, Inara. wink
blush I tend to get carried away when I'm responding to the fabulous comments by my readers!

 

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TrillianTK  98 posts
Registered: Jan '05
17453_Aubrie Wyn
Date Posted: 2/13/06 5:37pm Subject: RE: Friends No More [Jag and Shawnkyr] - COMPLETE - Replies, 2/13/05!!! - Date Edited: 2/13/06 6:11pm (1 edits total) Edited By: TrillianTK
Haha...in spirit of the baby discussion (and my cousin just had her first kid, so I currently think babies are cute), I present the newest Fel:



Edit- And since Jag needs a daddy's little girl too:

 

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Inara  2121 posts
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Date Posted: 2/13/06 5:59pm Subject: RE: Friends No More [Jag and Shawnkyr] - COMPLETE - Replies, 2/13/05!!!
OMG love love

The Shag baby is adorable. I think Jag and Kyrn have to have lots of them. love love

 

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Killik_Twilight  3359 posts
Registered: Apr '05
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Date Posted: 2/13/06 6:21pm Subject: RE: Friends No More [Jag and Shawnkyr] - COMPLETE - Replies, 2/13/05!!!
Inara posted:
Killik_Twilight posted:
Inara, I marathon read this at about midnight a few days ago, and it's high time I replied.
Welcome, KT!!! It's great to see you here! hugs


Killik_Twilight posted:
First off, incredible job! Your writing style drew me in and kept my attention. You kept the pace moving, and there was always something more that I wanted to see.
Well then, mission accomplished! That's always been the mark of a good story, the anticipation for more. I feel happy now. grin


Killik_Twilight posted:
While I don't think J/S will happen, you set their eventual marriage up very well. Impressive and interesting. happy
Well, the J/S debate is that…a debate. And as person who adores them in friendship and in romance, I can see both sides of the debate. But thanks for reading it anyway! It makes me happy when people try something outside of their usual reading niche!


Thanks! It was a great midnight read. happy

Good! Glad to see you're happy. grin

*laughs* Well, I try not to let my predetermined view of the universe get in the way of enjoying a good fic. I even betaed a Zekk fic a week ago (and I don't particularly care for Zekk), and some time before that began reading a K/J fic, so it's all good. cool And besides, how could I not read anything with your name on it? tongue

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summerdaisy  59 posts
Registered: Aug '05
13780_Jar Jar Sith
Date Posted: 3/16/06 10:37am Subject: RE: Friends No More [Jag and Shawnkyr] - COMPLETE - Replies, 2/13/05!!!
INARA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

First, you deserve these for finishing your first WIP:

applause applause applause applause applause applause

I was finally able to sit down and read through all the updates I missed. Sadly, doing a line by line would take forever, but I just wanted to say,

Thank you.

When I first asked you to write something with this pairing, you were hesitant and unsure of writing interspecies (or in fact, anything reckless). I had really expected Friends No More to be a vignette, but you took my randomly offered challenge and spawned this wonderful story.

FNM is subtextual - there is more going on than just two friends becoming something more. You explored an entire species, you have them personalities, culture, and a history, and even better, you made other people like them. It hasn't escaped my notice that while the Jag/Shawnie 'ship existed before FNM, this story made them, dare I say, almost mainstream? It certainly isnt' a coincidence that there are so many more "Shag" 'shippers.

I liked FNM because it developed slowly and thoroughly. In keeping with the natures of Jag and Shawnie, their behavior was cautious and deliberate (except Jag's unwelcome kiss in the med bay), and everything builds up deliciously.

Both Shawnie and Jag's characters are explored perfectly - you really made two "cardboard" three-dimensional. Reading some of the reviews, I saw that not only did you make a lot of people love Shawnie, but a lot of people who were indifferent to Jag like him too. I think part of the reason was because they were so natural - they weren't behaving in your 'fic as plot devices, as a way to get the romance forward. But FNM is primarily a characterization study, and you just wrote them as they should be. The fact that they also fell in love was an extension of their personalities and circumstances.

OCs: Cem (I know he's canon, but he's basically an OC) - kudos for making him popular too! He has quite the fan following...do your loyal readers know you have a Cem story planned? wink Also, Athan, Thevan, and Marel - and even Carnen - I think it's great that you've given these Chiss distinct personalities. A lot of times with OCs, especially alien ones, many of them aren't distinctive and get shafted by being labeled with stock characteristics. But you took your OCs, gave them distinct personalities yet still kept them Chiss, and made them loved by your readers (and made Athan top my sexiest SW male list). It was neat reading about Thevan and his broadmindedness, and how you attribute that to his being a soldier and a Nuruodo while his wife from another family (Inrokini?) is more conservative and not as pleased with aliens in the Ascendancy.

What I also thought was cool was how you viewed the cultural and political ramifications honestly. As much as I want Jag and Shawnie to live happily ever after, I know it won't be that way. They'll love and support each other, but you also tell us that their love will be tested and beset by problems from the outside. What also added credibility was how Syal felt uncomfortable with the match, and how Marel hates it.

I love everything you write, but I think FNM is closest to my heart because it's a story about how despite all the crappy situations in life, love can win - painful victories, but it can.

So again, thank you for writing this.


 

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