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DarthIshtar Title: Former CR Star Wars Trivia Hostess Registered: Mar '01	Date Posted: 8/18/06 11:40pm Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins,Kyp,Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy 8/18 Update!
	Very chillingly angsty and I'm glad you made those additions. -----signature----- "You are some self-important encyclopedia with too much time on his hands. I will see to it personally that you are used for spare parts every time my speeder needs an overhaul. You and that overpriced forklift out there." ~Dr. Bel Maden
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Jade_eyes Registered: Aug '04	Date Posted: 8/19/06 3:41am Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins,Kyp,Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy 8/18 Update! - Date Edited: 8/19/06 3:45am (1 edits total) Edited By: Jade_eyes
	Superb!!!!!!!! The contrast between the younger now/ Jacen and the future one was chilling. Can't wait to see what happens next. And what you said about Jaina becoming a Joiner and why: never thought about it before, but it makes sense. Kinda makes the DN more plausible rather than just weird--from a plot standpoint that is I was thinking about it: who acts like this and why, outa nowhere? Course, Jacen's actions are totally off the chain--so if the future can be changed so he doesn't go off the deep end--that'd be great. -----signature----- Luke/Mara--without end forever ginchy, Irish =I Squggles before I read a word
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SpiritofEowyn Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 10/6/06 5:00pm Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins,Kyp,Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy 8/18 Update!
	WAAAY Late Replies: Sorry! Araxie: Thank you! I wanted to use the twin bond in an unusual, not fun way. I'm glad it's intreging, but it makes it hard to write. IamObiwan1970: Thanks! I always like writing humor in. :P Yeah, he is pretty wimpy and unhelpful in YJK. It is unfortunately very Legacy/DN Jacen. Expect a lot of change in upcoming chapters. It could and probably will change the future. What's the fun of time travel without it? PadawanLost: Yeah waaaay more than he wanted too. Maybe Jacen will be the one to figure Zekaya out, wouldn't that be absolutely cruel? He might. Someone is definately going to find out she's a time traveler, thats for certain, whether they'll like knowing... that's something else. Jacen really has in this story and in Legacy, and I think it's about time YJK Jacen had to see what he's capable of becoming, at least to make him less arrogant 'power won't taint me, I'm perfect'. It is tricky, and this is a tricky story, but I haven't yet planned for this to be the case. Although you often give me some compelling plotbunnies for me to exterminate. :P Thanks! DI, the Ishest Beta on the Boards: Thanks, oh wise angsty beta! I couldn't have done it without your personal Angst enabling. Jade_eyes: Thanks! I always wanted to show how different they were. ::kicks pro-fic authors:: Yeah, it's just weird. :P I always wondered to what extent Jacen was controlling things even then. Killiks didn't fill the void. I have many theories on why she did stuff. Being a J/J, I hold that she stuck with Zekk, because she knew she didn't love him like that, but wanted someone around. After NJO, I thought she seemed to think that if someone cared about her, they would die or be destroyed. (A la Padme's luck) It would be great if he didn't go all insane. I wonder what Zekaya would be willing to do to stop that. Next week, I am visiting the Ish to personally plot out the rest of the story. (e.g. Do I have the guts to kill off more characters than I'd already kinda planned? How much Angst can I stand before I cave into happy ending? ) In other words... This story is not Dead. -----signature----- Suddenly Single Other Half: Force Twins Index : http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=22314061 "Stop the Skywalker Stupidity Cycle"
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Darkwriter Registered: Jan '06	Date Posted: 10/6/06 5:52pm Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins,Kyp,Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy 8/18 Update!
	Very nice. Thrilling, as always. I was sitting on the edge of my seat for this. Great post! Janet -----signature----- Jacen Solo Rest in Peace Jagged Fel for Emporer JAG: I came for an apology JAINA: Make it quick. I'm busy. JAG: Actually, I came to listen.
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Twin_Saber Registered: Aug '06	Date Posted: 10/28/06 2:11pm Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins,Kyp,Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy 8/18 Update!
	WOW!!! More please!!?? I figured it was Jaina and Zekk kinda pulled together, the name was a give away, but I still wasn't completely sure and the whole Hirina thing had me confused for awhile. TWIN_SABER -----signature----- Duct tape is like the force, it has a light side, a dark side, and it binds the Universe together points at avi There was no goofy Jacen, so I went with sexy Jacen. "Ours not to question why, ours but to do and die."
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Canadian_Maple_Leaf Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 12/8/06 10:51pm Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins,Kyp,Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy 8/18 Update!
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SpiritofEowyn Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 12/8/06 11:18pm Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins,Kyp,Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy 8/18 Update!
	Replies: DarkWriter: Thanks! You never know what I'm going to do with this fic. It's shifty. :P Or I am. Or something. Next chapter will either relieve some of the suspense or make you crazy, the climax is coming up, as well is the death count. Be prepared to... be surprized. TwinSaber: Ok. Now that Nano is done and I've updated the other two major fics. Yeah, I was wondering why people weren't guessing her sooner. I like to confuse the reader, it's kinda fun. Canadian_Maple_Leaf: It's not dead I swear! Announcement: After fighting with this story and it's plot I've finally caved and agreed to the deathcount that was hard to admit to.(but was nessarsay to keep it believable) As well as revealing maybe the most twisty scary but makes sense in it's way part that I'll probably have to have a bunch of author notes afterwards to explain the reality of it. DarthIshtar said it made sense. Anyhoo, this meaning that in the next week I will be writing it, and plan at the very least to give you a few scenes by the 17th. -----signature----- Suddenly Single Other Half: Force Twins Index : http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=22314061 "Stop the Skywalker Stupidity Cycle"
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SpiritofEowyn Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 12/15/06 4:43pm Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins,Kyp,Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy 8/18 Update! - Date Edited: 12/16/06 1:11am (2 edits total) Edited By: SpiritofEowyn
	Chapter 10 He felt like he was stuck in some horrid holonovel where he had been made into some sith for no apparent reason, besides the authors need to torture his family. He knew it was his older body sprouting the nonsense about no darkside and mass murder was making the galaxy, somehow, a better place. As much as he despised the Dark Man, the name he'd given his not- self, he wondered why no one had killed him yet. And why that idiotic boy still followed him around. Who in all the Corellian hells was Ben? "Where have you taken her?" That was the Dark Man. He could hear his thoughts, insane as they were, although he didn't want to, and Jaina's as well. "Allana's safe." Older Jaina spread her arms out, but he knew she could call her lightsaber to her at any moment. "Safe from me?" Dark Man looked more constipated than usual. He'd yet to see him wear a normal or really happy expression. " Come on, you say you're smart. You killed her mother, she doesn't exactly want to see you." "It was something I was forced to do, for the galaxy." And to become a full Sith. "Another poor excuse for you actions." Jaina's voice was all rough edges and sarcasm. Jaina's thought flew to Tenel Ka and a young girl throwing her arms about her and sobbing. "Somehow your daughter doesn't see it your way. She came to me." That hurt him. "Tell me where she is or I will be forced to kill you too." The Dark Man pretended to be generous. Jaina's laugh was bitter and she shook her head in amazement, "How is it, that you of all people are the last person to still have the delusion that I'm alive?" Her eyes crinkled, and he could see her pain. "You should know better." He felt the Dark Man's shock run through him, and for the briefest of seconds the Dark Man became familiar. Somewhere in him, he didn't want her dead, and her disdain for her life still surprised him even though he willyfully caused it. Through the Dark Man he could feel nothing of Jaina. "If it was your goal to destroy me, then you've already won, and you can stop killing off our family." He saw images of Dad and uncle Luke dead. Others he knew grieving, or dying. Jaina really wanted it to stop. "Dead, or alive I'm not leaving the galaxy like this." That was all Jaina steely determination. A blue haze surrounded him. Stand Firm Jacen, or you will utterly fall. A voice he didn't recognize, deeper than his uncles echoed through him. Somehow he recognized it as his brother Anakin, only older, and wiser. "I gave up my future for Anakin, I gave Allana to Anakin, and you will never find her!" The Falcon roared above them in deafening testimony. Jaina shone like a star going supernova before it died. Like a Ship tossed to and fro on every wind of doctrine until you drown in the depths of darkness. "I won't let you hurt anyone else and fulfil your twisted plans for what's left of the galaxy, for the sake of who you used to be. You used to honor life! Become Jacen without the force-- or die as the shadow you've made yourself!" She shone brightly in the force, blinding in her light. Stand Firm! "Jacen." Jaina called as she shook him. "Jacen? Wake up." The light seemed to fade, and the years of pain had faded from Jaina's face as well. She looked just as concerned though. He gasped in surprise to find that breathing was still a bit difficult. "Am I better?" The memories of his nightmare vision were still vivid in his mind. "Did I change?" "Change?" She perched on the edge of her chair next to his bed, head tilted. A medic must have seen him wake, and approached their curtained stall with a smile. "The good news is you will be making a full recovery. The blood tests showed higher levels of adrenaline and midiclorians than usual but you checked out fine otherwise." "Thank you." He said reflexively. He raised his arm up, to see to his unusual relief, traces of babyfat left. It hadn't happened yet, he wasn't that person. Why did he still feel like his world was still balanced on the edge of a knife? Paranoia and heightened anxiety wouldn't be unheard of after what he experience but his senses told him it was more than that. The medic nodded and then left to deal with more serious cases. "I have this weird feeling like the world is about to come crashing down on me." He whispered to Jaina urgently. It was the perfect time for the trademark Solo disdain for pessimism, but Jaina must have felt something too. "I don't think I've ever seen you so grimly serious." "Jay, do you remember that nightmare you had a week ago?" She pulled back from him warily and he knew that she did. "I think, I just had a dream like that." He pulled himself out of bed. Protect, Protect, he needed to protect something. He needed to stop something from happening. "It was just a dream." Jaina said dismissively. Whenever she was scared she tried to ignore it, or destroy it. "You scared me. I thought I was going to lose you. If she hadn't of put you into a healing trance who knows what would have happened. That is reality." "You thought I was a monster." Jacen kept his gaze firmly on her, and his tone was without any blame. Jaina bit her lip and struggled to break his gaze. "It was... it was bad." He tried to recall everything she'd told him when she thought she was still in the dream. He remembered vividly being woken up by hear mental screaming, terror, despair and deep disappointment, which he now identified as feelings of betrayal. "You called me a sith," He knew he felt betrayed by his... the Dark Man. The Man who had tried to-" You said I was trying to kill you." "It was just a dream," Jaina bit out desperately, trying to banish the memories his words invoked. He hated to be the one to bring her any pain, but somehow he had to know. With a seriousness never heard in him before he asked, "Who was dead?" "Jace," She begged. She didn't want to hurt him either, but he could tell she could feel his urgency too. "Who! I need to know all of it!" She grabbed his hand and pulled him towards her, into an embrace meant to keep her from having to look him in the eyes when she spoke. "Everyone. Mara was dying, some kid I barely knew was falling, Anakin died protecting me, it was my fault he died, and people kept dying. You died! Zekk, he was so gone before he died. Some man in the snow, I was so scared! Then Uncle Luke, dad, and then you came back but you came back wrong, and I couldn't feel you at all!" He could feel her shake her head into his neck. "And then I, Jacen I gave up! In the dream, I gave up my life to the force, so it would bring him back. And then you.. you..." He hugged her back, tears springing to his eyes. His whole body shook. Because he knew. He knew what she said was somehow real, because it confirmed everything he had most feared since his premonition. Someday, somehow he was going to betray her, and himself. He breathed. "I know." She gripped his shirt, their terrible premonitions no longer something she could fight and hide from. He didn't want to see her face either, in that moment, so he looked behind her where the force revealed another horrible truth, for the first time seeing into the waiting room where Luke and Mara were. Where they had been for a while, talking. Talking to... Confusion and dread echoed out to him. For a panic stricken moment he thought he had fallen back into his personal hell. Yet, he was holding onto his sister, he knew he was, he'd just been talking to her. In the room before him, beyond all reason was another Jaina he knew, knew from his worst nightmare that that the girl he held onto for support would someday become the woman framed by the window. Jaina stiffened his arms. She must feel it too now. She tried to turn around, but he wouldn't let her see her future with new eyes. The force around him seemed to be sucked away, drawn towards the scene he watched. He didn't notice it still gripping Jaina. Older Jaina, shook her head, paling, and her pain brought the dream guilt anew. Alone, always alone. "I'm always alone." Jaina pushed away from him into the nearby curtain. She hardly knew what she was saying. " I can't do this over again. Dear force I can't be alone," She shook her head. "Jacen? Jacen where are you?" "Jaina," Jacen stood unsteadily on his feet. He had to do something. "You said you'd never hurt me, you said you'd stay, but you're leaving already," She looked trapped and so so small. She nodded her head with certainty, eyes wide. "Everyone I know goes away in the end, and I'm not strong enough-" She covered her mouth. "You're the strongest person I know." He promised, trying to get her to connect to him, to see him. "I don't want this." His Jaina's voice squeaked though. "I don't belong here." He could see Older Jaina behind her mouthing the same words. As he was tied to Jaina, she was tied to her future self. "Don't want what? Jaina, what's happening?" He couldn't touch her, like there was some barrier between them. This couldn't be the beginning of the end of their bond, he wouldn't let it be. He hated the idea of something happening he had no control over, that he could barely understand. Jaina just shook her head, growing distant again, muttering "don't want to know." Why was he her weakness? That thing that brought her low to the ground, and dissolved her strenth? "Don't wanna know wh-" He cried pushing against what was pushing him away, coming between them. He wasn't going to give up just when it got hard, just because the chances were slim and the force told him he was fighting a battle he couldn't win. Through the window he could see Older Jaina mouth the words coming out of the one he knew's mouth. "I don't belong anywhere." Through the window, Jaina seemed to crumple in on herself, lost. Closer to him Jaina's eyes became dull. He wanted to shake her out of it, but before he could she had taken on the years and the pain of the Jaina he never wanted to exist. He didn't think he'd ever felt so helpless when his twin was with him, he wanted to shout 'No, don't remember!' Overwhelmed both Jainas fell to the floor. A/N: Yes, an evil cliffe. Chapter 11 will be What happened in the room with Mara, Luke and Zekaya, that prompted the last part. It will make your mind go all twisty. Whee time travel and paradoxes! Beware the coming Angst, for it is intense. -----signature----- Suddenly Single Other Half: Force Twins Index : http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=22314061 "Stop the Skywalker Stupidity Cycle"
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Canadian_Maple_Leaf Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 12/15/06 6:25pm Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins, Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy Angst 12/15 Update!
	thankyou! thankyou! thankyou! More please!!!!!!!!!!!
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padawanlost Registered: Apr '06	Date Posted: 12/15/06 7:49pm Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins, Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy Angst 12/15 Update!
	Wow that was intense! I loved the struggle the twins were having sharing the horro of their visions. I can't wait to see what happened with Mara, Luke, and Jaina in the other room. Things are really getting emotional, but I guess you gave fair warning. I'll have to get those tissues before you update. I'm dying to see what kind of paradox you've created here. This is going to be great. Is it too early to hope that Jacen is changing his evil path? Maybe she has saved him, but at the expense of herself? Please update soon -----signature----- e-married to rebel_cheese , so read his stuff or else Padawan of NYCitygurl Proud member of Charon Force. Check out our NJO AU: http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/27537567/p1/?23
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Jade_eyes Registered: Aug '04	Date Posted: 12/16/06 4:01am Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins, Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy Angst 12/15 Update!
	Wow! Yeesh! That was something deeply intense. Can't wait for more!!! -----signature----- Luke/Mara--without end forever ginchy, Irish =I Squggles before I read a word
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ginchy Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 12/17/06 4:23pm Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins, Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy Angst 12/15 Update!
	Since the chapter was so intense--I loved the humor of the opening: He felt like he was stuck in some horrid holonovel where he had been made into some sith for no apparent reason, besides the authors need to torture his family. How true! Great job keeping everyone straight (older/younger) and their visions--very scary. Can't wait to see what happens! -----signature----- ginchy's gambit: http://boards.theforce.net/beyond_the_saga/b10477/29089731/p1/?73
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Darth-Oblivious Registered: Dec '06	Date Posted: 12/19/06 12:44pm Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins, Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy Angst 12/15 Update!
	Hi, I'm previously known as Twin_Saber. What the kriff is going on here?! I'm con-fu-sed!!! DARTH-OBLIVIOUS -----signature----- Can you guess which character inspired this name?
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Canadian_Maple_Leaf Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 1/13/07 11:34pm Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins, Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy Angst 12/15 Update!
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SpiritofEowyn Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 1/16/07 12:09pm Subject: RE: Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death (Solo twins, Luke/Mara, OC.) YJK Legacy Angst 12/15 Update!
	News: While waiting for IAT to be updated, so then I could update after it, I have been doing writing for Gimli. So far I have a full 3 pages done. I anticipate another 2 or so before I'm finished with the chapter to post. It's an intense tricky chapter and my beta DI is helping out a lot. The chapter takes place starting just before the last chapter, only from Luke and Mara, and Zekaya's perspective. If I were to guess I would say we've got another 3 chapters after this to wrap it up. It's kinda mind boggling for me to think that after over a year of writing this, it's so close to completion. Thanks for reading. Replies: Canadian_Maple_Leaf: Thank you for the Up, and you're welcome. I'm glad you're liking it enough to come back. PadawanLost: It's pretty emotional/psychological as that's the warfare Jacen most used against her. You might want a tissue, and will probably want to read it where you won't bug anyone if you scream "WHAT?! No! That's not true.. that's impossible!" Yup some paradoxes are coming wherein Zekaya and Jaina have been near one another too long and have become too much like themselves. Zekaya being so much older and scarred is the only thing keeping them from paradox before. It is not too early. ? Maybe she has saved him, but at the expense of herself? Mmm Depends, which Jacen? Which Jaina? The force has got to do something with them. A month is sorta soon right? Compared to some other people. :P Jade_Eyes: Yup Much Intense. The final chapters will increase in the intensity. It's the begining of the end. Yay! Ginchy: Thanks. I'm glad you got that EU reference. :P I couldn't help throwing some humor into the Angstfest. Thanks. It's hard sometimes to keep it all straight. Giving Older Jaina a different name is the only thing that keeps me somewhat sane. Very scary, very LotF like. (hense I don't read it) Darth-Oblivious:? Hi previously Twin-Saber. You'll find out in the upcoming chapter. Jaina accepting her vision as a possible future has made her mentally too close to Zekaya. It be a problem. -----signature----- Suddenly Single Other Half: Force Twins Index : http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=22314061 "Stop the Skywalker Stupidity Cycle"
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