Author Topic: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin) *Chapter 15 -- 05/07* COMPLETE!
Kidan 
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Date Posted: 3/21/06 8:20pm Subject: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin) *Chapter 15 -- 05/07* COMPLETE! - Date Edited: 5/7/06 10:35am (23 edits total) Edited By: Kidan
Title: Pleasure & Pain
Author: Kidan
Notes: I do believe that I will be continueing this story, as I decided that I had enough plot bunny stew left to continue. grin It should be an interesting ride, and I'll choose a timeframe to put this in sooner or later.. grin

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Pleasure & Pain

I awaken, and feel the confusion around me. I don’t understand what I’m seeing. There are pipes and smoke and other noises. It confuses me because the last thing I remember was the fire and death on the world ship around Mrykr. I have memories of Nom Anor trying to get the thermal detonator, of Tahiri’s pain and cries in the Force as I could feel the life blood draining from me, the Force slipping away from me.

I remember dying.

How did I come to be here? Where is here.

I sit up, and feel the jelly like substance still clinging to me. I shiver as I look down, noticing my nudity. I look around, still confused by my surroundings. Some part of me hoping to see her.

Then I see her, not the one I want to see, but someone else, someone cold and metallic, someone whose Force presence is a dark oily stain on my awareness. Her red hair is pulled up into a simple braid, and she’s wearing a shift not quite large enough to cover her modestly. In fact, it reveals more than it leaves to the imagination. “What, who are you?”

She just smiles at me, which sends shivers up my spine. “I am Lumiya. Welcome back to the land of the living young one.”

I stand, and revel in the feeling of wholeness that envelopes me and notice Lumiya staring at me, a predatory smile on her face. “What?”

She runs her hands down my arms, and I get goose bumps. I can’t help but notice the resemblance to Aunt Mara, the fiery red hair, the startling green eyes. I remember the playful relationship Aunt Mara and I had shared prior to my death. Thinking of it now, with Lumiya standing before me, it was an awkward relationship, equal parts hero worship and teenage lust.

Thoughts of Aunt Mara lend awkwardness to this situation, with this woman who reminds me so much of Mara. Then you factor in how she is dressed, and my current lack of clothes.

I can only assume the lust I’m feeling is natural.

Absently I note that her hands feel like fire on my bare skin.

She picks up a white robe, with somewhat unique green stitching on it. I watch as she lays it across my shoulders and then runs her hand down the front of it, closing the robe around me.

Then I scream.

The robe is digging into my skin, thousands of tiny needles, spearing into my pores, each a point of agony. Driving me to the ground.

Then her foot is upon my throat. “If you wish to live, then you must serve me.”

“Why would I do that?”

“Because you do wish to live don’t you?”

Her smile turns dark, as a female Yuuzhan Vong comes up beside her. I gasp at the realization that I can feel this Vong in the Force. The Vong leans down close to me. I shiver as she whispers in my ear, “Jeedai, you know you would like to serve Mistress Lumiya, she brought you back to life, and she can give you so many wonderful things. Including a release from this pain.”

I just spit in the Vong’s face.

I feel them binding my arms and legs, and the pain as it slowly and inexorably attacks my sanity.

Hours pass, maybe even days. I have no way of knowing. All I know is the torment that the robe provides, the random electric shocks from my arm and leg restraints, and the burning of my thirst.

Once more, Lumiya is in front of me, her voice silky and soft as she whispers in my ear, “It hurts me to see you suffer so, just say you will serve me, and your pain will be taken away. I know, you can start with something simple. Start with a single, simple, little task for me.”

I look at her, dreading what she would ask of me, knowing that if I value my sanity I must stop this pain. “What?”

“Kill this Jedi.” As she says those words, she activates a small hologram and my heart drops as it is displaying a picture of my Tahiri.

“Never!”

“So be it, if you like the pain you are feeling, you can stay here. Stay here until you do decide to take up my small meaningless task.”

Her smile was once again predatory, and promising me both pleasure and pain.

“After all, tomorrow is another day.”


 

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Kissa 
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Date Posted: 3/22/06 5:00am Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
I read this in the 'One Sentence Challenge' thread and liked it there.

Then I read it again here and shock I liked it again. grin

Great writing, Kidan! wink

 

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Healer_Leona 
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Date Posted: 3/22/06 6:16am Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
Whoa. Very powerful! Is this just a viggie or are you continuing? If it is a WIP, please add me to a PM list for updates. grin grin

 

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Date Posted: 3/22/06 6:49am Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
*claps* Agreed... if there are more, please PM me with updates. If not, it was a great vig on its own, but I'd still love to see what he decides.

 

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Date Posted: 3/22/06 7:38am Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
I think you SHOULD continue this. Hint, hint! batting If you do, please PM when you update! No pressure, of course! tongue

 

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Thrawn McEwok 
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Date Posted: 3/22/06 10:15am Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
Kidan: *grins* Nice!

Then I see her, not the one I want to see, but someone else, someone cold and metallic, someone whose Force presence is a dark oily stain on my awareness. Her red hair is pulled up into a simple braid, and she’s wearing a shift not quite large enough to cover her modestly. In fact, it reveals more than it leaves to the imagination. “What, who are you?”

Superb description... the shift, I assume, is a Yuuzhan Vong skinrobe... very nice, very understated implications...

Am I right to assume that Lumiya has had her cyborging cleaned out? raised_brow

I stand, and revel in the feeling of wholeness that envelopes me and notice Lumiya staring at me, a predatory smile on her face. “What?”

She runs her hands down my arms, and I get goose bumps. I can’t help but notice the resemblance to Aunt Mara, the fiery red hair, the startling green eyes. I remember the playful relationship Aunt Mara and I had shared prior to my death. Thinking of it now, with Lumiya standing before me, it was an awkward relationship, equal parts hero worship and teenage lust.

Thoughts of Aunt Mara lend awkwardness to this situation, with this woman who reminds me so much of Mara. Then you factor in how she is dressed, and my current lack of clothes.

I can only assume the lust I’m feeling is natural.

Absently I note that her hands feel like fire on my bare skin.


I like the way how you suggest that Lumiya is in total control with the opening and closing jaws of that section - dictating and defining Anakin's responses... he knows it, too, but he doesn't want to/isn't able to admit it...

She picks up a white robe, with somewhat unique green stitching on it. I watch as she lays it across my shoulders and then runs her hand down the front of it, closing the robe around me.

Then I scream.


"Pleasure & Pain"?

And I envy the simplicity and clarity of your description here - just by using small words "green", "shoulders", "closing", you create a very vibrant mental image, and communicate intention and emotion, too...

The robe is digging into my skin, thousands of tiny needles, spearing into my pores, each a point of agony. Driving me to the ground.

Then her foot is upon my throat. “If you wish to live, then you must serve me.”

“Why would I do that?”

“Because you do wish to live don’t you?”


"Because you enjoy it?" raised_brow tongue

I just spit in the Vong’s face.

*nods in approval*

Good charatcerization...

I feel them binding my arms and legs, and the pain as it slowly and inexorably attacks my sanity.

Hours pass, maybe even days. I have no way of knowing. All I know is the torment that the robe provides, the random electric shocks from my arm and leg restraints, and the burning of my thirst.

Once more, Lumiya is in front of me, her voice silky and soft as she whispers in my ear, “It hurts me to see you suffer so, just say you will serve me, and your pain will be taken away. I know, you can start with something simple. Start with a single, simple, little task for me.”


Another contrast. Pavlovian conditioning, too - a contrast between Lumiya on the one hand, and pain and insanity on the other. And might I be right to think that she doesn't expect him to kill Tahiri, at least, not yet - she;'s putting thoughts of Tahiri together with a brief relapse from pain, in a moment of relative normality that's still so emphatically controlled by her...

... then taking it away again!

Her smile was once again predatory, and promising me both pleasure and pain.

“After all, tomorrow is another day.”


*shudders*

I enjoyed that! grin

And not just for the Tahiri-Mara-Lumiya angles...

Can I hope that there's more to come? cool

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Date Posted: 3/22/06 11:43am Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
WOW! That was awsome, Han!

How did I come to be here? Where is here.
Ok, I gotta tell you that this made me laugh because it reminded me of a birthday card I got once that was kinda long and hard to explain, but it ended with "And you wake up wondering... Where am I? Am I naked?" SO that was what went through my mind.. and the fact that he was naked mad it even funnier!

I remember the playful relationship Aunt Mara and I had shared prior to my death. Thinking of it now, with Lumiya standing before me, it was an awkward relationship, equal parts hero worship and teenage lust.
I really liked this thought running through his head... that here he is after he thought he had died, a captive of someone that while he doesn't know who she is he knows its not good and he's analizing his feelings... which is very Anakin to me.

The robe is digging into my skin, thousands of tiny needles, spearing into my pores, each a point of agony. Driving me to the ground.
Talk about torure... first she wears very little clothing, practically teaseing him and then she puts that robe on him... ouch! (Which I think, is an understatement!)

I just spit in the Vong’s face.
He he he... I love it! Great reaction!

Her smile was once again predatory, and promising me both pleasure and pain.
Whew! That is one cruel lady!

“After all, tomorrow is another day.”
What a way to end it! Very powerful! applause


While it's amazing as it stands, I agree with everyone else... you should continue this! If you do, I would love a PM if you don't mind!

 

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Kidan 
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Date Posted: 3/22/06 2:23pm Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
Kissa
I read this in the 'One Sentence Challenge' thread and liked it there.
:) I just thought this one needed to be in its own thread

Then I read it again here and shock I liked it again.
Great writing, Kidan!

Thanks!

HealerLeona
Whoa. Very powerful! Is this just a viggie or are you continuing? If it is a WIP, please add me to a PM list for updates.
Thanks, as for being a WIP, I'm not entirely sure if I have enough plot bunny stew to continue, but if I do, you'll get a PM grin

Eleventh_Gaurd
claps* Agreed... if there are more, please PM me with updates. If not, it was a great vig on its own, but I'd still love to see what he decides.
Thanks! and will do

VaderLvr64
I think you SHOULD continue this. Hint, hint! batting If you do, please PM when you update! No pressure, of course!
LOL, If I can come up with something, I'll continue happy

Thrawn McEwok
Superb description... the shift, I assume, is a Yuuzhan Vong skinrobe... very nice, very understated implications...
Yes, No? I didn't think about if Lumiya would wear a YV skinrobe or not... thinking

Am I right to assume that Lumiya has had her cyborging cleaned out?
Cleaned out, changed, just that she looks human again...probably a bunch of mechanical parts on the inside, which explains the 'oily' aspect of her Force presence...

I like the way how you suggest that Lumiya is in total control with the opening and closing jaws of that section - dictating and defining Anakin's responses... he knows it, too, but he doesn't want to/isn't able to admit it...
Exactly! grin

"Pleasure & Pain"?
laugh

And I envy the simplicity and clarity of your description here - just by using small words "green", "shoulders", "closing", you create a very vibrant mental image, and communicate intention and emotion, too...
Thanks!

"Because you enjoy it?"
laugh

*nods in approval* Good charatcerization...
Thanks!

Another contrast. Pavlovian conditioning, too - a contrast between Lumiya on the one hand, and pain and insanity on the other. And might I be right to think that she doesn't expect him to kill Tahiri, at least, not yet - she;'s putting thoughts of Tahiri together with a brief relapse from pain, in a moment of relative normality that's still so emphatically controlled by her...

... then taking it away again!

She's training him, trying to get him to obey her...obedience stops the pain...I doubt that she expects him to kill Tahiri first, but just getting the concept that obedience stops the pain, while disobedience brings it back again...

*shudders*

I enjoyed that! grin

And not just for the Tahiri-Mara-Lumiya angles...

Thanks!!!

Can I hope that there's more to come?
That's a big maybe...


Tahiri
WOW! That was awsome, Han!
Thanks!

Ok, I gotta tell you that this made me laugh because it reminded me of a birthday card I got once that was kinda long and hard to explain, but it ended with "And you wake up wondering... Where am I? Am I naked?" SO that was what went through my mind.. and the fact that he was naked mad it even funnier!
laugh

I really liked this thought running through his head... that here he is after he thought he had died, a captive of someone that while he doesn't know who she is he knows its not good and he's analizing his feelings... which is very Anakin to me.
Thanks, I tried to get him down right happy

Talk about torure... first she wears very little clothing, practically teaseing him and then she puts that robe on him... ouch! (Which I think, is an understatement!)
heheheheh

He he he... I love it! Great reaction!
thanks!

Whew! That is one cruel lady!
Aint she?

What a way to end it! Very powerful! applause
Thanks!

While it's amazing as it stands, I agree with everyone else... you should continue this! If you do, I would love a PM if you don't mind!
again...depends on how much plot bunny stew i have left....

 

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Date Posted: 3/22/06 2:34pm Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
The robe is digging into my skin, thousands of tiny needles, spearing into my pores, each a point of agony. Driving me to the ground.

shock Owwwwwwww....Was totally not expecting that! Especially not with the prior comparison to Mara. tongue Lumiya has one sick and twisted mind.

If you continue this, please PM me with updates. grin

 

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Date Posted: 3/22/06 2:34pm Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
great stuff Kidan, loads of good innuendoes wink

this sort of sound as if its set before the sith insurection fic. is there any sort of link or is that just a coinsidence?

 

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Date Posted: 3/22/06 6:34pm Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
JadeSolo
Owwwwwwww....Was totally not expecting that! Especially not with the prior comparison to Mara. tongue Lumiya has one sick and twisted mind.
Yup, she's one sick puppy allright

If you continue this, please PM me with updates.

sure thing...


Imperial hippy
great stuff Kidan, loads of good innuendoes
Thanks!

this sort of sound as if its set before the sith insurection fic. is there any sort of link or is that just a coinsidence?
I wasn't thinking of any other fics when I wrote this...so coincidence...

 

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Date Posted: 3/23/06 10:14am Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin) - Date Edited: 3/23/06 10:37am (2 edits total) Edited By: brodiew
Interesting situation you have here, Kidan. It didn't take long for my temperature to start rising blush shock grin

I also liked that Anakin acknowledged his attraction to Mara. An attraction that may not be gone.
She runs her hands down my arms, and I get goose bumps. I can’t help but notice the resemblance to Aunt Mara, the fiery red hair, the startling green eyes. I remember the playful relationship Aunt Mara and I had shared prior to my death. Thinking of it now, with Lumiya standing before me, it was an awkward relationship, equal parts hero worship and teenage lust.

Thoughts of Aunt Mara lend awkwardness to this situation, with this woman who reminds me so much of Mara. Then you factor in how she is dressed, and my current lack of clothes.

I can only assume the lust I’m feeling is natural.

Absently I note that her hands feel like fire on my bare skin.

She picks up a white robe, with somewhat unique green stitching on it. I watch as she lays it across my shoulders and then runs her hand down the front of it, closing the robe around me.

Then I scream.

Great scene! I thought your transition from pleasure to pain was smooth and unexpected, for me anyway. I was blinded by all the sexiness... tongue

 

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Trimaj 
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Date Posted: 3/23/06 10:40am Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
Great story Kidan, add me to the list.

It confuses me because the last thing I remember was the fire and death on the world ship around Mrykr. I have memories of Nom Anor trying to get the thermal detonator, of Tahiri’s pain and cries in the Force as I could feel the life blood draining from me, the Force slipping away from me.

I remember dying.


Excellent, I love the confusion. Reminds me somewhat of a post I had in an rpg... one obscenely long post. You managed to capture most of what I put in that post in just this little bit. Great job.


I sit up, and feel the jelly like substance still clinging to me. I shiver as I look down, noticing my nudity. I look around, still confused by my surroundings. Some part of me hoping to see her.

ooo.... he wants her despite his lack of clothing... shame_on_you

Then I see her, not the one I want to see, but someone else, someone cold and metallic, someone whose Force presence is a dark oily stain on my awareness. Her red hair is pulled up into a simple braid, and she’s wearing a shift not quite large enough to cover her modestly. In fact, it reveals more than it leaves to the imagination. “What, who are you?”

great descreption here, although i must say... a cyborg in barely any clothing ain't what i'd precisely be wanting at that point, that's for sure. poor guy.


She picks up a white robe, with somewhat unique green stitching on it. I watch as she lays it across my shoulders and then runs her hand down the front of it, closing the robe around me.

Then I scream.


hmm... for somereason i have doubts that was any actual stitching there... *shudders*


Once more, Lumiya is in front of me, her voice silky and soft as she whispers in my ear, “It hurts me to see you suffer so, just say you will serve me, and your pain will be taken away. I know, you can start with something simple. Start with a single, simple, little task for me.”

I look at her, dreading what she would ask of me, knowing that if I value my sanity I must stop this pain. “What?”

“Kill this Jedi.” As she says those words, she activates a small hologram and my heart drops as it is displaying a picture of my Tahiri.


oh so deliciously cruel kidan... she must have scoured his mind or something... maybe like an ilithid or something? not a fun thought that.


“After all, tomorrow is another day.”

wonderful parting shot. anakin appears to be learning some of jacen's many lessons... only not from some as... nice as vergere.


great story, and i look forward to more.

 

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Kidan 
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Date Posted: 3/23/06 1:46pm Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
Brodiew
Interesting situation you have here, Kidan. It didn't take long for my temperature to start rising blush shock grin
Y'know...i STILL don't know what to say to this...

I also liked that Anakin acknowledged his attraction to Mara. An attraction that may not be gone.
Why would it? Death was but a momentary thing for Anakin...Besides, he worked closely beside her for quite a decent amount of time, it's only natural that he would have some type of attraction for her....

Great scene! I thought your transition from pleasure to pain was smooth and unexpected, for me anyway. I was blinded by all the sexiness... tongue
Thanks!


Trimaj
Great story Kidan, add me to the list.
Thanks and will do

Excellent, I love the confusion. Reminds me somewhat of a post I had in an rpg... one obscenely long post. You managed to capture most of what I put in that post in just this little bit. Great job.
I tried..I wanted that confusion to be his initial state...after all, being reborn should have SOME effect.... grin

ooo.... he wants her despite his lack of clothing...
Yup, of course that begs the question of which HER he's talking about... whistling

great descreption here, although i must say... a cyborg in barely any clothing ain't what i'd precisely be wanting at that point, that's for sure. poor guy
Thanks, I was assuming that her cybernetics would have been skin toned similar to Luke's. I've not read any of the comics with her in them, but Wookiepedia states that she often wears external armour, which can be removed (and was by Luke)...so for this story, she's got flesh on the outside...but notice that Anakin's Force impression is mechanical when looking at her...she's described as cold, metalic and oily in the Force...

hmm... for somereason i have doubts that was any actual stitching there... *shudders*
Think Ganner's and Jacen's robes in Traitor...

oh so deliciously cruel kidan... she must have scoured his mind or something... maybe like an ilithid or something? not a fun thought that.
Yes, the cruelity is on purpose...read Thrawn's reply and my response to it for more details. But that dynamic will play a large part of what's going on here...

wonderful parting shot. anakin appears to be learning some of jacen's many lessons... only not from some as... nice as vergere.
hmm..it says something about Lumiya that we compare her to Vergere and how she taught Jacen, and end up calling Vergere nice....

great story, and i look forward to more.
Thanks, and more will be up in a little bit!

 

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Date Posted: 3/23/06 1:59pm Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
Kidan: Yes, No? I didn't think about if Lumiya would wear a YV skinrobe or not... thinking

tongue Given the general YV vibe, I figured that it would make some sense... thinking

Cleaned out, changed, just that she looks human again...probably a bunch of mechanical parts on the inside, which explains the 'oily' aspect of her Force presence...

*nods* I wasn't sure if that was machinery, or just her being Sith (especially since she's working with YV) - but a superb word to use, either way...

Exactly! grin

grin Precisely!

She's training him, trying to get him to obey her...obedience stops the pain...I doubt that she expects him to kill Tahiri first, but just getting the concept that obedience stops the pain, while disobedience brings it back again...

*nods* Makes a lot of sense... but isn't the YV idea to embrace the pain? tongue

That's a big maybe...

raised_brow What can I do to encourage you? tongue thinking

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Kidan 
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Date Posted: 3/23/06 2:14pm Subject: RE: Pleasure & Pain (Lumiya/Anakin)
Thrawn
Given the general YV vibe, I figured that it would make some sense...
Aye, and it's a great thought and makes perfect sense, and we'll go with that the shift is a yv skinrobe...

*nods* I wasn't sure if that was machinery, or just her being Sith (especially since she's working with YV) - but a superb word to use, either way...
Well, like you said, it works both ways. happy

*nods* Makes a lot of sense... but isn't the YV idea to embrace the pain?
that's the YV idea, but Lumiya and Anakin are human...and humans use pain as a training tool. We use pain to teach our children and pets proper behavior, and we even have examples of it in Traitor.

The thing is, Lumiya wants obedience, while Vergere wanted Jacen to be able to step outside of himself and his views on things. Both Vergere and Lumiya used pain to train, but they were different uses of pain, to get different results. Does that make sense to anyone but me???


What can I do to encourage you?
All these wonderful replies were encouragement enough...plus I came up with a good story, and it even has two possible mutally exclusive endings....which I have to decide which one to go with.... laugh




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