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TheQueenMother  328 posts
Registered: Nov '04
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Date Posted: 7/10/06 4:00pm Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news.
Yes, it did Ed. I'm proud to be a number one and de-throned number two statistic. *geek major hardcore* nerd

 

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LITO-JEN_VELASHUU  299 posts
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6282_John Williams
Date Posted: 7/11/06 9:30am Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news.
I refuse to accept the validity of "PIRATES 2" breaking "SPIDER-MAN"'s three-day record or of "PIRATES 2" breaking "EPISODE III"'s one day take of $50 million, and here's why...

"PIRATES 2" opened (intypical Disney conglomerate fashion!) on over 4,100 screens! That is absolutely ridiculous! "SITH" opened on 500 less screens...so the one day take of "EPISODE III" actually averaged about $150 dollars more PER SCREEN than "PIRATES 2". So, yes, technically, "PIRATES 2" beat the one-day record...but it also did less business per screen than "SITH". And when you stop to think that ticket prices have one again gone up at least 25 cents from last summer...it makes "EPISODE III"'s achievement even more impressive.

That brings me to my point about "SPIDER-MAN". If you adjust the amount of money Spidey did in its three days for inflation (ticket prices are in general at least $1.25 more expensive than they were in 2002) and also take into consideration the fact that Spidey opened on less screens..."SPIDER-MAN" is still king. SUre, not "technically"...but in every way that really matters.

I mean, hell, if I made a semi-decent blockbuster and publicized the hell out of it and opened it on 5,800 screens...I'm confident that I could beat a box-office record as well. I hate the fact that Disney, or any company for that matter, over-saturates the market with their publicity and opens their film on 9 ba-zillion screens and then brags about "Oooooh, we set a record!"...

Great...doesn't matter to me because your film was still a mediocre piece of crap that was way too long and not as fun as it should have been.

That's how I felt about "PIRATES 2", by the way...sorry, Sarah. I wanted to love it...and I actually liked it more than the 1st one...but, for me, that's not saying much. It was just "okay" to me. It certainly can't compare to "EPISODE III"...that's for damn sure. But, fill the public's head with the same commercials over and over again, fill every cineplex with prints of it so that it overwhelms them (it's on at least half the screens in theaters in LA) and sure, you're gonna "break" records. Whatever...

Oh yeah...when Hans Zimmer is writing music the way he did for "PIRATES 2"...he sucks. When he's writing music like he did for "AS GOOD AS IT GETS" or "THE DaVINCI CODE"...he's actually quite amazing. His score for "PIRATES 2" was minimalistic, repetitive, dull and just plain sucky. I don't care how many of the themes he used from the first film...it was repetitive crap. The only part about it that was good was the music box music. That's it.



 
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MusicTrooper  4082 posts
Registered: Feb '05
14876_Stormtroopers
Date Posted: 7/11/06 10:05am Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news.
WOW:-)

well, using calculations like number of screens
(and maybe seats per screen.....anyone remember the
mega-screens in 1977 where over 1000 would pack in
shoulder to shoulder while the line would go around the
block.....all day...oh, that was Star Wars in 77)

and calculatons using inflation values, and power of
the production company to advertise.

and calculations using budget to make a film and
etc etc etc

Yes, these are all valid, and for my money, given,
that there was almost no budget for the original
STAR WARS,and factoring all the above calculations
this is still the all time winner:-)

tho, I think the original ROCKY was made for 10-cents,
and racked in millions:-)

But, gotta admit, while writing this, I really miss,
the mega-movie-houses.......that had only 1-screen
and 1000 to 2000 in seating, and some even had
2-balconies......(there were double/triple features
in the old days, but no multi-screens that I can remember
during the 50s and 60s and a lot of the 70s)
and then over the years, the old large theatres were either
all torn down, and/or converted into multi-screen
venues.....I know, I know, I-m just too old:-)

Ed

 

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lukesky27  729 posts
Registered: May '04
14727_Stormtrooper
Date Posted: 7/11/06 11:46am Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news. - Date Edited: 7/11/06 11:48am (1 edits total) Edited By: lukesky27
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lukesky27  729 posts
Registered: May '04
14727_Stormtrooper
Date Posted: 7/11/06 11:48am Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news.
I went to the 12:01 showing on Thursday night and sat back row middle...nice seats, much better than the ROTS seats that we had.
Anyway, the movie was too long and many of the scenes could have ended sooner to progress the story along. I liked the first one much better for the "newness" factor and the story was a little more solid overall. I enjoyed my experience of the theater, because I love the midnight showings, but was a little disappointed in the movie.

I thought that Superman Returns was a superior movie for story and
CGI. I was never bored, unlike POTC:DMC, and loved the homages to the original 1978 version.

Anyway, the box office is what it is and POTC:DMC is the new king of the single day and opening weekend. I was quite surprised to hear that...but, if you want to talk ticket prices, Gone With the Wind is still number one, adjusted for inflation.

1 Gone with the Wind MGM $1,293,085,600 $198,676,459 1939^

2 Star Wars Fox $1,139,965,400 $460,998,007 1977^

3 The Sound of Music Fox $911,458,400 $158,671,368 1965

4 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial Uni. $907,867,700 $435,110,554 1982^

5 The Ten Commandments Par. $838,400,000 $65,500,000 1956

6 Titanic Par. $821,413,700 $600,788,188 1997

7 Jaws Uni. $819,704,400 $260,000,000 1975

8 Doctor Zhivago MGM $794,466,900 $111,721,910 1965

9 The Exorcist WB $707,639,500 $232,671,011 1973^

10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Dis. $697,600,000 $184,925,486 1937^

 
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LITO-JEN_VELASHUU  299 posts
Title: Hoosier Alliance Emeritus Member
 Registered: Sep '04
6282_John Williams
Date Posted: 7/11/06 12:59pm Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news.
Screw that crap about "PIRATES 2" being king of anything...

the only thing that film is king of is the land of mediocre-doo-doo films!

 
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lukesky27  729 posts
Registered: May '04
14727_Stormtrooper
Date Posted: 7/11/06 3:00pm Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news. - Date Edited: 7/12/06 5:33am (1 edits total) Edited By: lukesky27
LITO-JEN_VELASHUU posted:
Screw that crap about "PIRATES 2" being king of anything...

the only thing that film is king of is the land of mediocre-doo-doo films!


Wow! Lito, really thinks this movie is mediocre...money is money and according to the box office, this movie is now #1 for single day and weekend...pull out all the averages you want, but total money is all the box office records really care about and that says POTC:DMC is now #1. Here is the real question...will it reach $300 million, $400 million or beyond?

I must say it has a lot going for it...unlike most big budget action movies, this one has the teenie girls all over it because of Depp/Bloom...which is what Titanic had going for it with the love story with Leo. How did Titanic make $600 million: repeat business from young women and girls. Can this movie do that? NAH! But, it could reach top 10 status for money made.

Anyway, the Disney people oversaturated their product and won. Now, if Lucas puts ROTS is 4100 theaters, it could have made $55 million in the first day, but he didn't.

everyone relax and go see Clerks II on 7/21 and don't forget Mace Windu(Samuel L Jackson) in Snakes on a Plane coming in August. I am so there to see the already famous line...I am sick of the m..... f...... snakes on this m..... f...... plane.


 
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LITO-JEN_VELASHUU  299 posts
Title: Hoosier Alliance Emeritus Member
 Registered: Sep '04
6282_John Williams
Date Posted: 7/11/06 8:06pm Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news. - Date Edited: 7/12/06 7:13am (2 edits total) Edited By: LITO-JEN_VELASHUU
lukesky27 posted:
Wow! You are quite the hater of this movie...money is money and according to the box office, this movie is now #1 for single day and weekend...pull out all the averages you want, but total money is all the box office records really care about ...but he didn't...so no use crying over spilled milk.


For the record...I don't "hate" the movie. I just think it was mediocre as hell and doesn't deserve to hold any records. Also, I wasn't "crying", I was merely stating how I feel about it; complaining about something does not equate "crying".

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lukesky27  729 posts
Registered: May '04
14727_Stormtrooper
Date Posted: 7/12/06 5:22am Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news. - Date Edited: 7/12/06 5:40am (2 edits total) Edited By: lukesky27
Lito, I adjusted my post to make you happy. I would not want to "attack" anyone on the boards or get accused of it AGAIN.

For the record, no one was attacking you...your perception of attack was false. "crying over spilled milk" actually just means that it is too late to do anything about it now. It doesn't actually mean crying as you took it.

Now, you need to stop insulting me on here...it is getting old and I really have no idea where you live, nor do I care, because I do not read every comment that you make.



So, "SOAP"...who is pumped for this movie???

Dennis




 
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LITO-JEN_VELASHUU  299 posts
Title: Hoosier Alliance Emeritus Member
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6282_John Williams
Date Posted: 7/12/06 7:14am Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news. - Date Edited: 7/13/06 7:25am (1 edits total) Edited By: LITO-JEN_VELASHUU
I edited my previous posts...

 
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echo-3  3333 posts
Title: Midwest RSA
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17812_Luke Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/12/06 3:49pm Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news.
Woooo
Im glad I dint have to step in and open a can of woop A#$ on you two!
Cant we all just get along ( At least on thease boards)?
peace

Thanks for editing your post's guy's.

 

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echo-3  3333 posts
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17812_Luke Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/16/06 6:36am Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news. - Date Edited: 7/16/06 11:41am (1 edits total) Edited By: echo-3
I seen POTC 2 yesterday & I have to say I completely loved it. I re-watched COTBP right before going to see DMC and I liked it more then my lone time of seeing it in the theater 3 years ago.
As far as part 2, Wow . I thought it was beater the the first.I'm very looking forward to May 07 to see part 3. It was fun,exciting & more then I thought it was going to be ,Hearing all the crappy reviews that are floating around.

Final Grade: B+

 

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MusicTrooper  4082 posts
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14876_Stormtroopers
Date Posted: 7/23/06 4:55pm Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news.
Have finally seen

Superman Returns

and, well, it was ok, The guy playing superman,
has the potential to make this series come alive again,

and comparrisons to previous men of steel are inevitable.

I consider it a hopeful sign for the future at I sat there going,
that was bad, but that was good, but that was bad, but that was good,
and
that was him, and that was animated, and that was him, and that was animated,
and
original music, new music, original music, new music

Music note: Must have been pretty good, as I have no memory of it bothering me,
and this usually means, the second time I pay attention to only the music,
I will probly be buying the sound track album.

also, the dedication to Christopher and Dana Reeve, at the end
was a nice touch.

and Noel Neill was fun to see....she is almost 86!

but, I really liked that other Lois Lane girl, Phyllis Coates
who I think is also still around at, 79

hhhhhhmmmmmmm......guess I am not too old yest:-)

Ed

 

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echo-3  3333 posts
Title: Midwest RSA
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17812_Luke Skywalker
Date Posted: 7/23/06 5:15pm Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news.
Clerks II
This is a small review , I liked it , but no where near the first Clerks.
The "Battle of the Trilogy's" Sean is soooo funny. It did go a little over the edge with two Sean's ,but all in all I was entertain for 90 min.

Final Grade = C++

 

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MusicTrooper  4082 posts
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14876_Stormtroopers
Date Posted: 7/23/06 9:20pm Subject: RE: ______MOVIES____opinions and news.
almost forgot to mention this one.......WORDPLAY

only go if you are crossword puzzle fanatic,

or a really big IU fan........ref Will Shortz IU-GRAD

of course, I really liked it,
or
if it was not for the crossword puzzle in the paper,
I would never buy one:-)

Ed

hhhhhmmmmm......gotta start working on the ultimate STAR WARS crossword puzzle,
sure, it would not be in line with normal crossword rules
because of geek/nerd/fanatic-fan knowledge involving
names and words not in the English language.....1.) down....who shoots first.......

oh this is going to take an impossible long time.....

 

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