Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

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  1. Excellence Jedi Grand Master

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    Bah, it's easily discernible in my bio, Rogue Follower. :p

    Proposed thread names thus far include:

    Fleet Junkie Academy: Messing with Capital Ships
    Fleet Junkie Harbour: Capital Ships Ahoy
    The Capital Ship Thread- Fleet Junkies HO!, the mess continues...
    Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA
    The Capital Ships Thread- If You Ask How Long a SSD Is, You Will Be Banned
  2. Dark_Guardian Jedi Knight

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    So here's my suggestion:

    Fleet Junkie Council - Capital Ships discussions of the GFFA
  3. Pelranius Force Ghost

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    I meant, those the thread come with a cloaking shield?

    Why not a shipyard themed thread?
  4. Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare

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    I assume that the Outbound Flight ships are Chiss fighters - anyone got any high-res images yet? :)

    And I think something like The Capital Ships Thread, Mk. II - The Mess Continues!! would be appropriate... :)

    ... abbreviated as CapShips Deuce! :D

    Of course, then the RPG would insist that it was a Capital-class Ships Thread, and then SWTC would object that it it must really be merely a "Capitol-class thread", and much smaller than some other 100,000-post threadnoughts that have been on TF.N all along, but which we just haven't found yet...

    :p

    o_O [face_thinking] ;) I suppose we should put something along those lines in the first post:
    Started by Thrawn McEwok, an enigmatic fuzzball with a funny accent, the Capital-class Ships Thread was a terminological and continuity-kludging nightmare; but the fleet junkies pushed for it and the moderators enjoyed it, so the standard Ships Thread was created.

    The Capital Ships Thread has enough opinionated points of view to reduce a civilized poster to madness, or take on a legion of lesser dissenting fanboys.... Since its introduction, an improved version of the Ships Thread has begun to see action. The Capital II is an upgraded model featuring increased canon paradoxes and heavier flamewars.


    - Greg Gorden, et al., The Jedi Council Sourcebook (West End Games, Honesdale, PA, 1989), p 61.
    And, in homage to the fansite we couldn't be here without:
    This page is devoted to the famous kilopost-long thread known to the posters of the Jedi Council as the Capitol-class ships thread, and colloquially known as Capital ships thread to dissenting fanboys. There exist other kinds of ships thread in the Jedi Council Forums, but this commentary ignores them in order to focus exclusively on the most thoroughly addictive thread.... Ships threads are the smallest kind of warship discussion to which anyone pays any attention, but the existence of numerous other threads which are smaller and larger indicates that they are actually medium-sized discussions.

    - Curtis J. Saxton, Star Wars Technical Commentaries, "Ships Threads" (http://theforce.net/swtc/cst.html, 1997-2001, as of 13/9/2005)
    Or does that seem too much like a snark to people with different POVs... [face_tired] [face_thinking] :)

    - The Imperial Ewok
  5. Jaymach_RalTir Jedi Knight

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    Yeah I had assumed they were the Chiss fighters mentioned in SQ...or perhaps earlier models seeing as it's quite considerabley earlier. I really want to learn about Chiss fighters apart from those damn Clawcraft :( Especially as it was mentioned that they had different weapon systems from regular starfighters. Ah well...maybe we will sometime soon. :)
  6. AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature

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    Well, does anyone else have any ideas for the new title? I say we let people have a few more hours to post one, then we can post a list of them like Excellence did and begin voting!

    Also, how does everyone feel about starting a new thread? I know that The2ndQuest said we can just edit this one, but then our first few pages are cluttered with these discussions. I say that we just vote a title, write a intro, select a person to post it, then get back into the discussions. :)

    Afterall, we have alot of stuff that could be full of ships in the coming weeks... ;)

    --Adm. Nick
  7. FTeik Force Ghost

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    TFN-SHIPYARD Ltd. - proud subsidiary of the LFL design-office for capital ships
  8. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    On a sidenote, anyone else think "Fleet Junkie" should be in the Star Wars Wiki? ::)
  9. EvilleJedi Jedi Master

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    We need a index to all the relevant links and resources in the first post, the compendium (at very least this version http://warlords.swrebellion.com/compendium.htm ) other stuff of interest that people have put together.

    links to swtc and stardestroyer.net would also be useful for newcomers. and heh if we really got inventive we could link into the old thread with topic headings :p In fact it would be fun to link topics under some of the more prolific posters so people get a idea of where they are coming from (ooooh this would be flamebait) we could have a poll with questions like "the SSD is ? long" heh, I might actually waste my time doing a 'what type of fleet junkie are you?" poll


    speaking of which, anyone have a link to the detailed analysis of the battle of endor with screen caps, the one with the 3 or so home ones/15+ mon cals etc etc... need it quick and cant find it anymore


    finally if anyone is interested in helping to update the ship database http://warlords.swrebellion.com/shipindex.php (it gets between 30K and 60K unique hits a month and its essentialy unadvertised and incomplete) please contact me, it has the ability to support comments so we could have everyones veiwpoint per ship (even mcewoks) if we wanted to.
  10. Senator_Cilghal Force Ghost

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    First the Starduster--is it a YKL37R from Galaxies
    ====
    other thoughts

    Here's what I've found out

    Broadside Frigate--seems to be a new design, Imperial
    Tartan Patrol Cruiser--seems to be a new design, Imperial

    Assault Frigate Mark II--does thename imply it is, like the original Assault Frigate, a modified Dreadnaught-class, Rebel

    Ground vehicles:
    SPMA-T Walker--obviously akin to the SPHA-T from AOTC, Imperial
    2-M Repulsortank--is this related to the Sabre-class, Imperial

    MPTL-2a Mobile Proton Torpedo Launcher--is this once of the vehicles from Force Commander, Galactic Battlegrounds, or WEG?
    T4

    Also the IFT-T Hover Tank from Battlefront II looks similar to the 2-M and the Sabre

    Also the Y-B Mining Vessel from Galaxies looks like a B-wing could it be a Slayn & Korpil design; Verpines do like to make mining vehicles
  11. GrandAdmiralJello Community and Lit moderator person

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    Oh, but I thought it was perfect! :p
  12. AdmiralWesJanson Force Ghost

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    What would be the designators for other factions ships?
    Yuuzhan Vong?
    Corellian?
    Mon Calamari?
    Hapan?
    Corporate Sector?
  13. AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature

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    Fleet Junkies HO!

    The time to vote is now!! :p

    Here is a list of all the names proposed as official title for our new thread:

    New Thread Name List

    1. Fleet Junkie Academy: Messing with Capital Ships
    2. Fleet Junkie Harbour: Capital Ships Ahoy
    3. The Capital Ship Thread- Fleet Junkies HO!, the mess continues...
    4. Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA
    5. The Capital Ships Thread- If You Ask How Long a SSD Is, You Will Be Banned
    6. S.S. Fleet Junkie - Every Armada's Essential Flagship
    7. Fleet Junkie Council - Capital Ship discussions of the GFFA
    8. The Capital Ships Thread, Mk. II - The Mess Continues!!
    9. TFN-SHIPYARD Ltd. - proud subsidiary of the LFL design-office for capital ships
    10. Legacy of the Fleet Junkies
    11. New Fleet Junkie Order
    12. Pan-Era Omnigalactic Fleet Junkie Chamber of Madness, Mayhem, and Unmitigated Chaos
    13. Fleet Junkie Crisis Thread


    The easiest way to do this would be to have everyone case a single vote via PM to The2ndQuest, our esteemed Fleety Mod. Being a Mod, we can trust him to tally the votes fairly and post the results for us.

    Perhaps if there is no overwhelming support for one of this names after the first round of voting we could reduce the list to the four most popular and vote again. Democracy at its finest! :D

    So, lets get started!!
  14. Senator_Cilghal Force Ghost

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    How about Legacy of the Fleet Junkies?
    Or New Fleet Junkie Order?
    or the Pan-Era Omnigalactic Fleet Junkie Chamber of Madness, Mayhem, and Unmitigated Chaos?

    Or the Fleet Junkie Crisis Thread
  15. AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature

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    Cilghal:

    GAH! You had to post those after I posted the list!! :p

    Well, better late than never. I will edit my list to include those. Go ahead and edit yours so that they do not appear twice. :)

    --Adm. Nick
  16. FTeik Force Ghost

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    @AdmiralNick:

    Is The2ndQuest willing to do that? I don't want to bother him with an unwanted message.
  17. AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature

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    FTeik:

    I sent him a PM about it, though it was admittedly a bit after the fact. I have a feeling he shoudl be ok with it, but I have no problem with waiting for a response from him.

    Only reason I suggested him was because he is a Mod who we all trust, so there will be no accusations of "hanging chads" or other voting irregularities. :D

    --Adm. Nick
  18. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Yay! Spam the mod's PM's! :p


    Go for it, I don't mind ::)


    Too bad this would be too long:

    The Starships Thread- "Send the Fleet Junkies to the Far Side of the Lit Forum...there they will stay, until called for. HO!" ;)
  19. Senator_Cilghal Force Ghost

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    Nick, I was just being silly, unless anyone likes those titles.
  20. Fingolfin_Noldor Jedi Master

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    Er... looks like this discussion is taking forever....

    Anyway, let's get back to business...
  21. AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature

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    Fingolfin:

    Well, hopefully everyone will PM their votes ASAP so that we can get the new discussions under way. I have a few topics I have been waiting on until we get our new home set up. :)

    Speaking of which, here is a idea I had for the introduction to the new thread. Tell me all what you think.


    ****Introduction Proposal****


    A long time ago on a message board far, far, away?


    STAR WARS- The Fleet Junkies


    It was a period of civil war. Capital ship fans, striking from their hidden base, won their first victory over the forces of the evil EU Lit Forum. Though from a variety of backgrounds, countries, and opinions, the small band of original fans organized and formed the Fleet Junkies, a alliance to spread the good news of Star Wars capital ships. They gathered their forces from across the JC forums, uniting Saxtonite with WEGer, New Republician with Imperialist. Despite their often varying opinions, this small brave band of fans set aside their differences to discuss the topic of capital ships and other craft of the Star Wars Universe.

    Over time, the organization grew to be embraced by the JC forums. People from across the EU Lit forums suddenly recognized the Fleet Junkies, who were distinguished by their personalized signatures. As their membership expanded and grew, so did the scope of the topics they discussed. No longer bound by discussing just capital ships, the Fleet Junkies turned their collective knowledge towards other topics, like starfighters, transports, military leaders, battles, and tactics. They were recognized as the authority on such topics.

    Unity was never an easy thing to maintain. At times, the differences between the Fleet Junkies threatened to pull apart their fragile alliance. Battles raged over countless threads. Super Star Destroyers engaged each other at point blank range, while fights over the size and scope of fleets in the EU were debated back at forth. It was brother against brother. Saxtonite vs. WEGer. New Republican vs. Imperialist. For a time, it seemed as if all was lost.

    Yet, pulling together and putting aside their differences once again and uniting in their common goal, the Fleet Junkies weathered these storms. While their own debates continued, they managed to post over 10,000 posts in their original home. They had sub-topics scattered across the boards. Peace and prosperity was brought to the EU Lit forums, protected by the fleets of the Junkies.

    Now, over two years later, the Fleet Junkies have established their new flagship. Roving the boards, this mighty warship continues its vigilant watch, ready to come to the aid of any fan that requires the wealth of knowledge they have at their disposal?
  22. Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare

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    Okay... first, how many people really want me to reply to FTeik's last post in the Saxtonite vs. Endorian slugfest?

    Secondly... anyone got a fix for the Defender/Nebula thingy yet?

    - The Imperial Ewok
  23. Senator_Cilghal Force Ghost

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    "Saxtonite vs. WEGer. New Republican vs. Imperialist."
    After that add "There were heroes on both sides."
    :)

    And we can always parody Leia:
    "They were in the wrong place, in the wrong time. Naturally, they were Fleet Junkies."
  24. Senator_Cilghal Force Ghost

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    Well, to start things off, here's a catalogue of military and paramilitary ships by manufacturer:

    AING-TII MONKS
    Sanhedrim Pilgrimage Vessel

    ALDERAAN ROYAL ENGINEERS
    ARE War Frigate
    Thranta-class War Cruiser

    ALLIANCE UNDERGROUND ENGINEERING
    Rebel Assault Frigate Mark I
    Rebel Assault Frigate Mark II
    RZ-1 A-Wing

    ARAKYD INDUSTRIES
    Helix-class Type A Interceptor
    Helix-class Type B Interceptor
    Predator I Probe-Mate Jump Pod

    ARAMANDI
    Aramand System Cruiser III

    ARATECH REPULSOR COMPANY
    SkySlayer-class Assault Ship

    BAGMIM
    Bagmin Customs Ship

    BAKTOID ARMOR WORKSHOP & BAKTOID COMBAT AUTOMATA
    E-STAP-1
    E-STAP-2
    E-STAP-3
    LAATAK
    Neimoidian Transit
    VAC

    BAKURANS
    Bakura-class Destroyer
    GPA Fighter
    Namana-class Light Cruiser

    BASALISKANS
    Basalisk War Droids

    BOTAJEF
    AA-9 Freighter

    BTS ENTERPRISES
    CUV

    BULLBABONG
    G-1 Fighter

    BUUPER TORSCKIL ABBEY DEVICES
    Porax-38 Fighter

    BYBLOS DRIVE YARDS
    G-1A Fighter

    CHARON
    Charon Fighter
    the Desolate

    CHISS ASCENDANCY
    C Border Patrol Ship
    C Corvette
    C Fighter
    C Star Destroyer
    Commander?s Glider
    Defoliator Frigate

    CINDEV
    Series IV Picket

    COLLA DESIGNS
    Droid Tri-fighter
    Hunter-Seeker Droid

    COLONY
    Colony Dartship
    Gorog Dartship

    COMMERCE GUILD
    CG Advanced Bomber
    CG Bomber
    CG Corvette
    CG Enhanced Bomber
    CG Patrol Craft
    Diamond-class Cruiser

    CORE GALAXY SYSTEMS
    CGS Dreadnaught
    PTR-3 Vedette-class Fighter

    CORELLIAN ENGINEERING CORPORATION
    Assassin-class Corvette
    Buccaneer-class Corvette
    CC-7700 Frigate
    CC-9600 Frigate
    CEC Frigate
    CEC Light Corvette
    CEC Light Cruiser
    Consular-class Space Cruiser
    CR20 Troop Carrier
    CR90 Corvette
    Crusader-class XX-777 Droid Frigate
    DP20 Gunship
    Grek-class Troop Shuttle
    HLAF-500 Fighter
    HWK-290 Light Freighter
    INT-66 Interceptor
    JM-5K Scout
    Kleeque-class Transport
    KR-TB Doomtreader-class Fighter
    LAF-250 Fighter
    Lancet-class Fighter
    Mynock-class Assault Boat
    PB-950 Patrol Boat
    Proficient-class Light Cruiser
    S-100 Stinger-class Fighter
    Selyana-class YT-1300f Light Transport
    Strident-class Star Defender
    TIE Fighter Corvette
    Vanguard-class Gunship
    VCX-820 Escort Freighter
    Viscount-class Star Defender
    YQ-400 Monitor Droid
    YT-2000 Light Transport

    CORPORATE ALLIANCE
    Fantail-class Transport

    CORPORATE SECTOR AUTHORITY
    Etti Light Freighter
    IRD Fighter
    IRD-A Fighter
    IRD-B Fighter
    TIS Zeta 19 Interceptor

    CYGNUS SPACEWORKS
    Alpha-class Xg-1 StarWing Gunboat
    Delta-class JV-7 Escort Shuttle
    ISP-6 Shuttle Pod
    Lambda-class T-4a Shuttle
    Sentinel-class Shuttle
    Theta-class T-2c Shuttle
    Xm-1 Missile Boat

    D'FARIANS
    Star Barque

    DAMORIAN MANUFACTURING CORPORATION
    Carrack-class Light Cruiser

    DAUPHERM
    Discril-class Attack Cruiser

    DIAMALA
    Diamalan Blockade Carrier

    DURO SHIPWRIGHTS GUILD
    Dagger-D Fighter

    ELROOD SHIPYARDS LTD
    Prosperity-class Light Cruiser

    ELSINORE-CORDOVA ENGINEERING
    Tri-Mark VII Interceptor

    EMPIRE OF THE HAND
    Nssis-class Clawcraft

    EVAKMAR
    Evakmar-KDY Transport

    FEETHAN OTTRAW SCALABLE ASSEMBLIES
    Belbullab-22 Fighter
    Mankvim-418 Interceptor

    FREE DAC VOLUNTEERS
    Providence-class Carrier/Destroyer
    Recusant-class Light Destroyer

    FREITEK INC.
    Dagger-D Fighter
    E-Wing Type A
    E-Wing Type B
    E-Wing Series 4
    Gladiator-class Fighter

    FROFFLI
    Froffli Patrol Ship

    GALLOFREE YARDS INC
    GR-75 Medium Transport

    GANATHANS
    the Robida Colossus

    GAND
    Gand Bomber

    GIVIN
    Wavecrest-class Frigate

    GWORI REVOLUTIONARY INDUSTRIES
    Munifiscent-class Star Frigate

    HAOR CHALL ENGINEERING
    Bella's Armed Transport
    C-9979 Lander
    Cavik Toth's Starfighter
    Sheathipede-class Shuttle

    HAPES CONSORTIUM
    Beta-class Cruiser
    Hapan Stinger
    Hapes Nova-class Mark I Battlecruiser
    Hapes Nova-class Mark II Battlecruiser
    Hetrinar-class Bomber
    Miy'til-class Fighter
    Waspship

    HOERSCH-KESSEL DRIVE INC.
    Heavy Munitions Cruiser
    Modified Cargo Hauler
    Munifiscent-class Star Frigate
    LH-3210 Lucrehulk-class Battleship
    R-22 Spearhead-class Interceptor
    R-41 Starchaser-class Fighter
    Recusant-cla
  25. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    7 votes counted so far. How long do you want to run this for?