Lit Ignorance is Bias: The Diversity Manifesto

Discussion in 'Literature' started by CooperTFN, Sep 2, 2012.

  1. TrakNar Force Ghost

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    I see I was not the only one slightly perturbed by the pale, white Humans with blonde hair and blue eyes. It... doesn't... seem... natural...
  2. Skaddix Force Ghost

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    so they going to try to kill savage and maul via lynching? Also no wonder they don't want to work with Aliens. Still yeah the old mandos are better.
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  3. Robimus Force Ghost

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    I was hoping this week, with the large amount of Mandalorians we get to see onscreen, that it would be different. But nope.
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  4. TrakNar Force Ghost

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    I haven't been keeping up with the recent episodes (no TV and no cable/satellite make me... something something), so I wasn't sure if they updated their bipeds yet. If I recall, I saw at least a couple Mando kids with light brown hair, and just that was an improvement over the blonde-hair-blue-eyed people. Did they ditch other hair colors in favor for the old look again?
  5. Rilwen_Shadowflame Force Ghost

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    Of all groups, it's weird for the Mandos. Not only because of Jango, but also because this is the culture that adopts kids regardless of heritage to raise as warriors... Wookiees, Rodians, it's all good, you can be a Mando as long as you participate in the culture.
    And now suddenly, that's gone...
  6. Skaddix Force Ghost

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    yep that is what made them great.
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  7. TrakNar Force Ghost

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    No point in me designing a Gand Mando anymore... :(
  8. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    Well they already have helmets and flamethrowers….[face_plain]



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  9. TrakNar Force Ghost

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    Blargh.

    Those colors are vomit.

    I'll design a better one.
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  10. MercenaryAce Force Ghost

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    To be honest, every other depiction of Mandos I have seen featured humans as an overwhelming majority at the very least.
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  11. Esg Jedi Grand Master

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  12. MercenaryAce Force Ghost

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    Well, yes, with the exception of the time when there weren't any human Mandos

    (Though, to be honest, I still have some problems with that - Canderous and his clan come off as way to...traditionalist...to have been recruited so recently.)
  13. RC-1991 Force Ghost

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    FOR GANDALORE!

    @ - True, but even then later canon has shown that the Great Sith War and the Mandalorian Wars were the last gasp of the Taung, and even by the Mandalorian Wars themselves the majority of Mandalorians were non-Taung.
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  14. CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus

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    The weirdest thing about it is that they randomly felt like making Bo-Katan a redhead. So the entire Mandalorian population is blond except for ONE person. Were her parents outlaw geneticists?
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  15. MercenaryAce Force Ghost

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    You have it backwards coop. Think about it - not only are all these guys blonde with blue eyes, but they have the same face, wearing identical jumpsuits -

    A clone population. The finest we have ever created - genetically engineered to be easily swayed.
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  16. Mechalich Force Ghost

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    There are a few other people with variant haircolors seen in the episode, such as when Bo Katan rescues the three kids one is blond one has brownish hair and one appears to have purple hair. There's also a few small variants, including slightly darker skin on one or two models in the crowd scenes if you look closely. Still, they did seemingly work rather hard to make Mandalore look like Star Wars Sweden.

    It's unusual, because such a population, charges of prejudice aside, requires an explanation behind such limited genetic mixing. Why is the New Mandolorian populace so limited in internal diversity?

    I assume the explanation is based on the historical origins. The New Mandolorians came about following the Mandolorian Excision, a military campaign that suppossedly devestated Mandolore. The logical explanation then is that the New Mandolorian population was born out of some initially tiny subgroup and their current appearance is a result of this founder effect.

    You know, thinking about it, perhaps the use of Cloning to restore population numbers following mass death events could also serve as an explanation for this, and other similar uniform planetary populations, in Star Wars.

    I mean if you take say, one hundred survivors and use them as clone templates, as long as you take a bit of geneological care for a few generations you could massively speed up recovery, assuming you had the monetary resources.
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  17. MercenaryAce Force Ghost

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    My first response is that Mandalore is probably so uniform to save time and money...

    Then I remembered that Onderon had a very diverse population, despite being historically xenophobic.

    Maybe Clone Wars is bizarro Star Wars?:p

    Random thought - is Almec's freakishly long neck to qualify him as a near-human?
  18. Lugija Force Ghost

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    Non-human.
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  19. Gorefiend Chosen One

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  20. Random Comments Force Ghost

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    With....token redhead!
  21. GrandAdmiralJello Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque

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    FOR GANDALORE!!!
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  22. Esg Jedi Grand Master

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    They accepted anyone willing to join or whoever they conquered. It's not too difficult to figure out. They obviously weren't Xenophobes
    We see plenty of non Human recruits by KOTOR though as well. At least the comics.
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  23. Robimus Force Ghost

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    I bet Johnny Oduya, who played for my local NHL club last season(with Chicago now), is a Swede that would not view Sweden quite the same way.

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  24. Skaddix Force Ghost

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    So your saying that even Sweden is more diverse then the New Mandos?
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  25. Gorefiend Chosen One

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    I just wanted to pick a pic where it becomes clear that Swedes are not usually blond if I had found one with more dark skinned ones I would of course have taken that one (though there is one in the second row that does seem to have a slight middle eastern touch) :)
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