Obi Wan never saw footage of Anakin/Vader killing younglings

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  1. JABS Jedi Padawan

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    Hello,

    I noticed the other day that when Obi Wan goes to Padmé's apartment, he tells her that he saw a security holocron of Anakin killing younglings, but if you remember correctly, Obi Wan only saw footage of Anakin fighting Cin Drallig and bowing to the Emperor, and then said that he couldn't watch any more, so is this a mistake or did Obi Wan watch the footage off screen? I think it was a mistake.
  2. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    Whie and Bene were with Cin Drallig, when Vader attacked. Both are Padawans and almost considered Younglings. However, Obi-wan was still in shock from before and thus jumbled his thoughts together.
  3. Obi-Wan-1000 Force Ghost

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    I think Obi-wan saw it when he was fast forwarding it, "The younglings were killed by a lightsaber" Anakin was the only jedi killing other jedi's with a lightsaber.:)
  4. Richard-Drahcir Force Ghost

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    My brother thought that Bene and the other padawan were part of the group of younglings that were in the Council Chamber when he first saw the film but I agree that any young non-adult Jedi would be considered younglings.
  5. RebelScum77 Manager Emeritus

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    Yes, exactly. He put two and two together. The younglings Yoda and Obi-Wan found were killed by a lightsaber. They saw Anakin fighting Cin, Whie and Bene with a lightsaber. Therefore, Anakin killed the younglings. ;)
  6. DARK_HELMET_05 Jedi Knight

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    i agree, he was just piecing together the younglings deaths by lightsaber and the security holograms in the temple
  7. GrievousKiller Jedi Knight

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    Well yoda did say all those younglings were killed by a lightasaber, so i guess Obi wan had to assume it was anakin.
  8. LORDVIGILANCE Jedi Youngling

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    Besides, I'm sure that Obi-Wan and Yoda saw many other dead Jedi bodies on their way to the Archives, surely some of them had to younglings.
  9. Richard-Drahcir Force Ghost

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    "Killed not by clones, this padawan. But a lightsaber."

    Yoda only says that one Jedi was killed by a lightsaber. The clones would have shot many of the younglings while Anakin only got a few kills in.
  10. Get_in_Gear Jedi Youngling

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    Everyone in the temple was dead.
    Anakin led the raid on the temple.
    The padawan Yoda examines, the security footage, and anything else Obi and Yoda may have seen while we cut away to Mustafar, proves that Anakin was indiscriminate with his lightsaber - young and old got the chop.
    2+2=4...
  11. Obi-Wan-1000 Force Ghost

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    Thank you,RebelScum77=D=
  12. MasterP Force Ghost

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    Just because we didn't see Obi-Wan watch the security footage doesn't mean he didn't see it. He could have seen the footage off-screen.
  13. Cantina_Owner Jedi Knight

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    This is where he starts thinking,"What if I tell people the truth from a certain point of view?".
  14. Exar_Kuns_Apprentice Jedi Knight

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    Yes but he says that the Padawan was killed by a lightsabre but Sidious has Anakin bowing in front of him in the temple. So as far as Obi Wan and Yoda are concerned its Anakin, but it could of equaly been Sidious as Obi and Yoda are assuming its Anakin.

    But we as the audience know that this is not the case and it was Anakin.
  15. Get_in_Gear Jedi Youngling

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    Not really, because it is clear Sidious only turns up at the temple to congratulate Vader after it has been secured:

    As ANAKIN surveys the carnage, a DARK-ROBED SITH LORD enters. ANAKIN turns to DARTH SIDIOUS and kneels before him.

    ANAKIN: "The traitors have been taken care of, Lord Sidious."

    DARTH SlDIOUS: "Good... good... You have done well, my new apprentice. Do you feel your power growing?"


    So, it could only really have been Anakin...
  16. Carnage04 Jedi Grand Master

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    At the very least we can assume he watched more of the holo-recording. The temple fight sequence was cut for time constraints so to have Obi-Wan watch 10 minutes onscreen of Anakin mowing down Jedi would have defeated the purpose of showing it real time.

    Carnage
  17. voodoopuuduu Classic Trilogy Trivia Host

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    This is where he starts thinking,"What if I tell people the truth from a certain point of view?".

    Heh, lol.
  18. thechozn1 Jedi Master

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    What, you think the security cam that caught him taking out Cin and the 2 padawans was the only one in the entire temple? I think not. It's not canon but the Vis. Dict. says that Vader knew all his actions were being taped and he was glad since the Emperor would be able to see his handywork. I could believe that. I'm sure Obi-wan got to see more than we did.
  19. mjerome3 Jedi Grand Master

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    Obi-Wan didn't have to see footage. Anakin kneeling before Palpatine was enough to tell him who was responsible for killing the younglings. Yoda even stated that a padawan was killed by a lightsaber. The hologram he told Senator Amidala was the footage that he saw when Anakin is taking on Cin Drallic.
  20. qui-gon-kim Jedi Master

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    And besides, Obi-Wan could have seen the youngling slaughter offscreen (when he says "It can't be").
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