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captain-fantastic
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4/21 8:38pm
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RE: The Video Game Draft Version 4.0: IT CAN STOP TIME! (Goooooooo Matches)
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I like Zack. I hate what's about to happen to him.
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The_Chim
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4/21 9:01pm
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Kefka should lose just for being Kefka, I mean just look at that thing.
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The_Loyal_Imperial
Title: YAHTZEE and Blackjack Host
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4/22 5:13am
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RE: The Video Game Draft Version 4.0: IT CAN STOP TIME! (Goooooooo Matches)
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Argument I.
Videos for Jin.
The fight starts off a little slow, then gets really interesting.
Wait until precisely 4:32. Then be amazed.
Citan's abilities
Sazanami (For healing.)
Renki (Lets him use an ability on all allies, or, for this match, Jin. Extremely useful for stuff like Sazanami, Senkei, Yamiga, Ryukyusho, and Reisho.)
Fuuseii (+Defense vs. Earth, -Defense vs. Wind.)
Chiseii (+Defense vs. Wind, -Defense vs. Earth.)
Kaseii (+Defense vs. Water, -Defense vs. Fire.)
Suiseii (+Defense vs. Fire, -Defense vs. Water.)
Ryukusho (Cures physical status effects, like poison, handy.)
Reisho (Cures mental status effects, like confusion, handy.)
Koga (+Defense, -Attack)
Yamiga (+Attack, -Defense)
Senkei (Increases speed.)
Citan's attacks and Deathblows
Ukigumo, Mufu, Jinrai, Shinrai, Renken, Hakai, Ougi, Willow Wind, Rare Earth, Hell Fire, Tsunami Ice, Amaoto, Engetsu, Amagumo, Himatsu, Yako, Zanretsu, Myogetsu, Festive Wind, Rumble Earth, Haze of Fire, Crystal Water.
Everything before Tsunami Ice he can do without his sword, everything after is what he can do with it. Quite a lot of options available here for him to kill the enemy with. Here's a video of him doing just that.
Jin's skills and special attacks
Skeletal Slash, Break Heal, Heat, Raging Sea I, Gale Blade I, Short Revenge, Short Double, Spark Waltz, Dragon Dance, Lightning Waltz
While lacking the variety of abilities Citan has, Jin has the advantage in sheer overpowering strength of attacks with those last few moves. Starting at 1:19, you can see Spark Waltz, Dragon Dance, and Lightning Waltz. Also, see first two videos at start of post.
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The_Chim
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4/22 9:34am
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Ah, my favorite in game videos of RPGs with all the floating numbers and the enemies that never move, how I've missed you so!
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EmpireForever
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4/22 10:15am
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If Death's Hand's GM doesn't mind, I would like to maybe hear something on that. Otherwise, trump-trump could use a talk.
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RX_Sith
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Here is Death's Hand's information from the Jade Empire site.
An imposing figure clad head to toe in fearsome armor, Death's Hand became the right hand of the Emperor at the end of the great drought. He heralded a new philosophy in the palace; respect is best gained through fear. As the head of the Lotus Assassins, the grim visage of his mask is the new face of law in the Jade Empire.
No one has ever seen Death's Hand without his mask, and many have wondered about his true identity and purpose. He presents himself as a zealous servant of the Empire, but there are whisperings that he has taken more power than his station should allow. Which would be the greater worry; that Death's Hand manipulates the Empire or that the Emperor has weakened enough to allow it? Very few people are willing to voice these concerns aloud. The Lotus Assassins are ever-present and enemies of Death's Hand have a habit of disappearing.
Death's Hand is unmatchable in combat. With his incredible strength, unparalleled speed, and unique twin sword style, he deals incredible damage in a blizzard of attacks. When the Emperor commands Death's Hand into battle, even whole armies quake in fear.
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KiwiRogue
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4/22 6:52pm
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Sounds like a good match for Yuber in combat. Add magics and summons, it gets a little one sided...
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Hammurabi
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4/22 8:34pm
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The_Loyal_Imperial posted:
Videos for Jin.
The fight starts off a little slow, then gets really interesting.
Wait until precisely 4:32. Then be amazed.
I'll raise you. Watch 4:10 to see Frog slice open a mountain. There's also some good battle footage starting around the 2-minute mark; Crono and Robo leap through the air and we get to see Crono slice a giant monster down the middle (this seems to be a recurring thing in this match).
Your arguments are solid, but I'm really not seeing anything on your side that I haven't got in equal or greater amounts on mine. Sword skill is the most obvious trait in this battle; it goes without saying that we have four excellent swordsmen on our hands. It's hard for me to set any one of the four substantially higher than the other. The other areas are also pretty even: Citan has healing, but so does Frog. Citan has some variety in his abilities, but I would argue that my three guys sure as hell have more variety than Citan, and they probably have more variety than both their opponents. And I would also argue that my team operates better; from the videos I've seen, the Chrono characters operate with a pretty good synergy. It seems pretty common for one character to throw up an elemental spell and have Crono leap into the air and put his sword behind it, leading to a very solid two-person attack.
Of course, I'm still mostly ignoring the fact that my team outnumbers TLI's. If this fight were just Crono and Frog versus Jin and Citan, I think the fight would be much closer. I think we can all admit that would be a helluva battle, but throw Robo into the mix, and the balance tips decidedly in favor of the Chrono team. But consider that the Xeno team has one more man to deal with, I just imagine they'd get overwhelmed.
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The_Loyal_Imperial
Title: YAHTZEE and Blackjack Host
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You make good points, though I'd think that mountain is a bit closer to just being a massive rock or cliff, if I wanted to get technical. One thing, though, I couldn't see from those videos, and would probably be a deciding factor here. Speed. Crono and co. are pretty fast, but not exceptionally so, from most of the parts I saw. Probably base human level and a bit, for their normal attacks. Jin and Citan, on the other hand, both move and strike with blinding speed, plus Citan can boost the speed of the two of them at the same time. While you're right about them being initially outnumbered, with their speed they should be able to cut it down to even numbers pretty quickly.
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EmpireForever
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4/24 8:10am
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Good point about the speed, and Jin has some good power too. Magus has a spell that makes him look like he's moving pretty fast, maybe one of the others have it too. Any evidence that you have found for that, Hamm?
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Well, I'm well-versed in neither the Chrono universe nor the Xeno universe, so there's only so much I can say here. But no, in none of the videos I found did either Crono or Frog demonstrate any extraordinary blade-speed; however, they do demonstrate some amazing speed. I mean, these guys appear to turn into beams of light as they fly through the air, so they must be going pretty damn fast. On that basis, I would go so far as to say Crono and Frog might even have a speed advantage over their opposition. I don't know about any Magus speed spell, but Crono and his boys were able to take down Magus, so they must have something on him.
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Ok so like...
Cloud Strife
T-Elos
Yuber/ Luc
Kefka
Chrono Trump
Grey Fox
...?
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Swamped. Yikes.
Cloud Strife (FF VII) vs. Zack Fair (FF: Crisis Core)
And what is it that's "going to happen" to Zack exactly? Like Cloud's gonna disembowel him, or something? Come on. I'm sure the match would be friendly enough, like a sparring contest... with pretty flowers all around and the sun shining down on them, with rainbows and cute little bunnies hopping all over the place.
And, uh, this is not at all a complete and total blowout. Cloud wins clearly enough, though.
Winner: Cloud
Ken Masters (Street Fighter) vs. T-Elos (Xenosaga)
Ken could give her a decent fight for a short span, most likely.
Winner: T-elos
Yuber TRUMPED with Luc (Suikoden) vs. Death's Hand (Jade Empire)
Yeah, Death's Hand is pretty good, but he'd be in for a crazy enough fight against either one of these guys. Against the trump, there's no doubt he loses.
Winner: Yuber and Luc
Phantom (Devil May Cry) vs. Kefka (FF VI)
Truth is, I've really been spending this entire time trying to think up some sort of clever remark for this match. I got nothing, but my pride wouldn't let me give up and it took me this long to beat it back down into a dark corner and just judge the damned match.
Winner: Kefka
A Frog and a... Robot? TRUMPED with Crono (Chrono Trigger) vs. Citan Uzuki (Xenogears) TRUMPED with Jin Uzuki (Xenosaga)
Pretty cool match, but I'm sticking with the Chrono trump.
1. Cohesion's on their side. The Uzuki's seem like they'd have some great theoretical cohesion, but that just can't compare to the sure-thing cohesion of the Chronos. We know they're gellin' like Magellan and they have the dual techs and triple techs to prove it.
2. The magical power is firmly on their side as well. Crono's the most powerful in the match in that regard, and there are two potential healers on their team against just Citan.
Though it is very close. I wasn't originally thinking about Citan's ability to boost defenses against elemental attacks, so that was a good reminder, and I do believe that the Uzuki's are more skilled with their blades overall (and speed seems about equal). Just a quick comment on one thing there. I don't think I see the Frog/cliffside thing as being more impressive than the Jin/mech thingie. In sheer scale it was, but look at it again. That was, like, a big deal for Frog. There's a whole bunch of flashy hullabaloo and charging up and all the rest of the shenanigans. Not terribly practical in a straight sword fight. However, Jin cleaved that mech in two as easily and as casually as a fattie would be in upgrading their 20 piece McNuggets meal to large.
But whatever the case, I just don't think it's quite enough for them to overcome the cohesion and magic and numbers advantage of the Chronos.
Winner: Frog, Robo and Crono
Grey Fox (Metal Gear) vs. Bowser (Super Mario Bros.)
'nuff said
Winner: Grey Fox
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