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Should the phrase "under God" be taken out of the United States Pledge of Allegiance?
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Liz Skywalker
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6/30/02 3:55pm
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Should the phrase "under God" be taken out of the United States Pledge of Allegiance?
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Question: Should the phrase "under God" be taken out of the United States Pledge of Allegiance?
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No.
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No.
If it is "unconstitional" to have it in the pledge of allegiance, then it certainly must be unconstituional to have "In God We Trust" on our money.
If they do that then all money should be burned/destroyed and new money made. (I'm being sarcastic to make a point by the way  )
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Liz Skywalker
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I say "yes". I also think the President should not say "God bless America" at the end of his speeches and that "In God We TRust" should be taken off our money. Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion. We are free to have no religion, therefore, the mention of God goes against the seperation of Church and State. Of course, I don't like the drama way it's being accomplished in RL, but that's humanity for you.
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6/30/02 9:43pm
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being a atheist is also a form of religion are we free from that. it makes no point in changing it now.
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This issue is really easy to fix-use the ORIGINAL pledge. "one nation, indivisible" (as in the pre-1954 pledge) is much more appropriate for a pledge of allegiance anyway, IMNSOH.
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7/1/02 2:42am
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I think that it should be kept in. The US was founded on a christian based society, and we shouldn't forsaken our heritage in such a way. But we should also be more open to other religions. But what really bothers me is how in public school you have to make every concession for every other religion, but if you catholic or anything like that it's ok to force you to not openly practice your religion.
I've suffered all kinds of predjudice against what I believe, and I think it sucks, for anyone. I think that athiests have a choice, satanic worshipers have a choice, jewish people have choices, but to restrict somebody from making that choice is bad.
When bush says 'God Bless America,' he's professing his faith in front of the country. If congress suddenly bans him from saying that his freedom of speech is being encroached upon...
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"The US was founded on a christian based society"
Uh, no. But there's so much stuff there, I don't feel like getting into it. Maybe Cydonia will wander by here and explain it to you.
The whole 'god in the pledge and on money' deal started in the 50's, because of the cold war. The USSR was an atheistic state, so the jackasses in charge decided to start slapping the word god on everything American. The original pledge does not have the word god in it. We should go back to that. And also take "In God We Trust" off the money.
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Ooops, i voted no when i meant yes. Anyway, the reason why i said yes is because of respect of other countries and religions. Although i am Christian, the way i see the "under god" part is bad. I mean, what does "under god" mean, anyway? It means that this country is the only country that got see's as right and just diss all the other countries. This country is one of the most contriversal country's in the world and definately not religious. The pledge has no right to have that in it, especially any time after 1940.
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I voted no.
I think that God is genaric. Alomost all religions have a lead god, a head god.
But I also think they should let the kids say whatever they want. Where God is, let the kids replace it with Jesus, Allah, Buddha, or whatever their main god is.
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Yes it should because not all religions do have a god. Atheists don't believe in god and they live in the US. It does not belong in the pledge and can easily be taken out.
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Yes, I think they should revert it to the state it was in before it was changed in the 50's. Even though I am a Christian, that has never seemed right to me.
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No.
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No. Like someone said, it's a generic term so I don't feel it's a huge deal. Most believe in some form of higher power. Though certianly not all. I don't think it's offensive and would like it to stay.
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No. And mark my words. If the full 9th Circuit Court doesn't strike it down, the Supreme Court will.
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That's got to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard. This country was raised on the belief of God, not of Athiesm.
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