Author Topic: The Three Strike Policy
vw_jedi  962 posts
Registered: Feb '02
46293_Obi-Wan Kenobi (3169)
Date Posted: 1/29/04 11:57am Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy
Don't like EU...fine, allow those of us who do to present it in discussions (where it applies to the movies) and all you have to do is say "I don't see it that way"...not "EU sucks


While saying the "EU sucks" may not be the most intelligent thing to say, I still don't see why it's ok to senselessly bash the movies with similar comments.

I can't even count how many EUDF members have bashed the idea of General Grevious and used quite derogatory terms to display their distaste for the character, yet a similar comment directed toward an equally ludicrous idea presented in the EU would no doubt bring the EUDF battle call.

Where is the equality? Where is the balance? Why is movie bashing tolerated, yet EU bashing is not?

I'm not saying to blatantly bash the EU, but let's be real here, fair is fair. We should not allow bashing of one aspect of SW freely and restrict another.

 

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jedi_master_ousley  30789 posts
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43742_Obi-Wan Kenobi
Date Posted: 1/29/04 1:03pm Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy
That is why I don't think explanationless (is that a word?) bashing of the films should be allowed. Constructive bashing is one thing ("I don't like this aspect of the film because ______"), but saying you don't like something and not even explaining why ("The prequels suck anyway, so _________") are different.

If someone can constructively share an opinion on why they don't like something about the EU (Note: this does not include discussions over its canonosity) than I don't have a problem with them, however I will discuss viewpoints with them. If someone just says "EU suxx0rz" then I will get angry.

Same way with the movies.

 

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SkottASkywalker  2944 posts
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22348_Luke Skywalker
Date Posted: 1/29/04 5:19pm Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy - Date Edited: 1/29/04 5:22pm (1 edits total) Edited By: SkottASkywalker
Never have understood why any "bashing" is allowed on a fan site. Why it's allowed to "bash" this, but it's not allowed to "bash" that. Why it's allowed to "bash" anything STAR WARS/anyone officially involved with anything STAR WARS. Why it's allowed to bash anything STAR WARS/anyone officially involved with anything STAR WARS, but it's not allowed to "bash" those doing the "bashing".

I also don't understand why any "bashing" is not only allowed, but also somewhat supported and somewhat promoted.

But hey, the "bashing" is not a reflection on we fans who do not "bash". It's not a reflection on anything STAR WARS. It's not a reflection on anyone officially involved with anything STAR WARS. cool



 

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MeBeJedi  10958 posts
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6609_Anakin Skywalker
Date Posted: 1/29/04 9:16pm Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy
Skott, you can't expect every SW fan to like everything about Star Wars.

"It's not a reflection on anyone officially involved with anything STAR WARS."

Someone's not heard of all the actors complaining about the PT and Lucas. wink

Oh, and JMO....EU suxx0rz!!!! tongue

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vw_jedi  962 posts
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46293_Obi-Wan Kenobi (3169)
Date Posted: 1/29/04 9:31pm Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy
I dunno, basically I just think it's silly that I can freely say "I think Anakin is the stupidest thing to ever happen to SW."

But by merely changing one aspect of the sentence like this: I think Mara Jade is the stupidest thing to ever happen to SW, I am now a ignorant purist basher.

It makes no sense what so ever. Bashing is bashing. But bashing the movies and movie characters senselessly is tolerated for some reason, whereas bashing the EU and EU characters is not.

I dunno even what I'm getting at. Part of me thinks all bashing should be banned, but the other part says freedom of speech should rule. But regardless of which idea you believe, one thing is certain. There is unbalance, and that is bad.

 

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Dark Lady Mara  26467 posts
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41918_Darth Maul
Date Posted: 1/29/04 9:44pm Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy
I think Anakin is the stupidest thing to ever happen to SW.

Wow, I think that could definitely be construed as inappropriate as well. I know I've closed a few threads like "Luke sucks!", "Vader sucks!", etc. (I'm thinking now of one particular thread to that effect that was unpleasant for everyone involved, especially me, because someone had taken it upon themselves to harass people who come to the JC to have fun plain ). If you say something like that without giving a good reason, I think it's trolling.

 

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SkottASkywalker  2944 posts
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22348_Luke Skywalker
Date Posted: 1/29/04 10:17pm Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy - Date Edited: 1/29/04 10:32pm (1 edits total) Edited By: SkottASkywalker
you can't expect every SW fan to like everything about Star Wars.

I can't? sad cry silly

I don't expect every STAR WARS fan to like everything about STAR WARS. My post said nothing about liking everything about STAR WARS. My post said nothing about liking anything about STAR WARS. When I mention "bashing" I am referring to "bashing". I'm not referring to criticizing with respect to those who created what it is that is being criticized and to those who are fans of what it is that is being criticized.

Someone's not heard of all the actors complaining about the PT and Lucas.

Someone misunderstood my post. [face_shocked] wink mischief

 

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vw_jedi  962 posts
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46293_Obi-Wan Kenobi (3169)
Date Posted: 1/30/04 3:10pm Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy
DLM, the blatent movie bashing is really not something that's out of control in OT. So just so you know, I'm not implying it happens in here, it's way more prevailent in PT forums.

 

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Bib Fortuna, Twi'lek  67181 posts
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7829_Bib Fortuna
Date Posted: 1/30/04 4:15pm Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy
You can dislike things all you want. But you don't have to bash them. Bashing is pointless.

 

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Dark Lady Mara  26467 posts
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41918_Darth Maul
Date Posted: 1/30/04 9:58pm Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy
Oh, I know, vw. I go there too. I'm just giving my take on it.

 

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vw_jedi  962 posts
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46293_Obi-Wan Kenobi (3169)
Date Posted: 1/31/04 7:17pm Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy
Well, I just wanted you to know I think you and E_V do a nice job at keeping things balanced in the OT.

 

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Dark Lady Mara  26467 posts
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41918_Darth Maul
Date Posted: 1/31/04 10:12pm Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy
Well, thank you. happy It's nice to hear praise now and then.

 

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Errant_Venture  14087 posts
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Date Posted: 1/31/04 10:16pm Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy
Thanks vw!

Everything has been really calm thanks to that group and I'm so glad for that!

 

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Bib Fortuna, Twi'lek  67181 posts
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7829_Bib Fortuna
Date Posted: 2/21/04 8:26pm Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy
I really think that users need to be informed when they receive a strike. I got my third strike recently, and I thought I only had one. Getting a PM from the Mod giving the strike each time you get one would really be helpful.

 

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DarthArsenal6  6940 posts
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Date Posted: 3/3/04 11:37am Subject: RE: The Three Strike Policy - Date Edited: 3/3/04 11:39am (2 edits total) Edited By: DarthArsenal6
I get it
Instead of talking about the Classic Trilogy lets talk about Star Trek yes anyone ?

 

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