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zombie  3405 posts
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Date Posted: 3/31/08 2:44pm Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade??
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solojones posted:
You say that, but no one's remade...Casablanca.

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Lord_Hengill 
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Date Posted: 3/31/08 3:41pm Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade??
My quick opinion - Star Wars should never be remade, it's classic. PT as well.

 

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jedimasterbac  6234 posts
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Date Posted: 3/31/08 3:41pm Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade?? - Date Edited: 3/31/08 3:43pm (1 edits total) Edited By: jedimasterbac
I definitely agree with you, Lord_Hengill, on the idea that neither should be remade, though that still depends on the definition of a remake. I'd still be all for a re-imagining, but I'd be more open to it if it were done as a novel, as mentioned before.

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The Gods of Irony have sent this plague upon us to curse you for your arrogance! Let us all blame Solojones! If we sacrifice her as a scapegoat the plague might be lifted!


Let us go forth quickly and begin this sacrifice to end our suffering, but it must be very quickly. We've only got four minutes to save the world from this barbaric plague.

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zombie  3405 posts
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Date Posted: 3/31/08 5:41pm Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade??
Ben Hur is a remake. So is Wizard of Oz. And Scarface. And Battlestar Galactica.

Just throwing it out there. wink

 

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jedimasterbac  6234 posts
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Date Posted: 3/31/08 6:05pm Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade?? - Date Edited: 3/31/08 6:06pm (1 edits total) Edited By: jedimasterbac
Ah, but the remakes of the Wizard of Oz and Battlestar Galactica are re-imaginings. Tin Man is definitely not based on the musical and is somewhat relatable to the original L. Frank Baum novel, but it completely re-imagines it into a really weird fantasy world. From what I understand of the new Battlestar, it's simply based on the original failed show but is a lot different in terms of the political themes it deals with.

Just throwing that out there. wink tongue

 

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zombie  3405 posts
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Date Posted: 3/31/08 7:35pm Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade??
I don't think there is such a thing as a remake that literally redoes everything exactly, except Pyscho, but then thats an experimental film for that very reason. When a film is remade its an assumption that characters, themes, style and construction will be modified.

 

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jedimasterbac  6234 posts
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Date Posted: 3/31/08 7:42pm Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade??
Things change, yes, but there's still a difference between that and a re-imagining. For example, Chris Nolan didn't remake Tim Burton's Batman and just change a few things around. He completely re-imagined the entire series. The same thing goes for Halloween and Casino Royale.

 

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zombie  3405 posts
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Date Posted: 3/31/08 7:56pm Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade??
I'd say those are characteristic of typical remakes. Tim Burton made the term "re-imagining" en vogue when he redid Planet of the Apes, but its really no different from any other remake. Scarface is nothing like the film from the 30's, and neither is Ben Hur anything like the 1920's version. The Thing is pretty different from The Thing From Another World, and The Fly is basically only the same premise as the original. Thats what remakes are like. They always are very different. The only example I can think of other than the Pyscho experiment is Jackson's King Kong, but thats because he did the film in tribute more than anything else (heck, he even completed the deleted scene from the original film). Everything from Dawn of the Dead to Godzilla to franchise reboots like Superman and Batman are typical of remakes. The whole "re-imagining" term was just a marketing ploy invented before the super-wave of remakes that have recently emerged because people forgot that nothing ever gets literally remade.

 

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nito209 
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Date Posted: 4/4/08 10:28am Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade??
I dont think making a remake would be wise the actors we know and loved created the souls of these characters it would be very weird. instead of a remake i rather just see them fix every shot that should be cg ya i think i just might stop liking star wars if they did a remake in my view it would be a huge sell out but the idea was koo just some movies should be left alone.

 

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r8hitman  4085 posts
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Date Posted: 4/14/08 12:51pm Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade??
jedimasterbac posted:
Things change, yes, but there's still a difference between that and a re-imagining. For example, Chris Nolan didn't remake Tim Burton's Batman and just change a few things around. He completely re-imagined the entire series. The same thing goes for Halloween and Casino Royale.


Please dont bring up that damn movie (Halloween)....

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jedimasterbac  6234 posts
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Date Posted: 12/19/08 9:17am Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade??
Just to bump this up since the new thread was locked and directed here, I'll say what I said in the aforementioned thread.

With me, I guess it would come down to how we are going to define "remake". If it's an actual remaking of the films without many differences, I don't know how I'd feel about that mainly because it seems unoriginal. On the other hand, if it went the route of a reboot or re-imagining like Batman Begins/The Dark Knight or Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace then I would be very much in favor of it. Star Wars is starting to get a little stale and boring in terms of what is being released these days, and as seen with the Batman and Bond reboots it can really inject some fresh blood into faltering franchises. Even if it was a failure, it doesn't do any damage to the original films, as they are still there.

And just to point out, if there was to be a reboot, I would want the ENTIRE series rebooted, not just the Classic Trilogy.

 

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DarthDiabolous  401 posts
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Date Posted: 12/20/08 9:49pm Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade??
i dont want actual remakes... just fix everyth9ing that needs to be fixed...
and that goes for all 6 films actually... but i say wait 5 years to do it so technology can be even better...

for the ot duels use teh same technique they used with christopher lee just put his face on some guys body and have that random guy to the fighting... that way the duels are much better...

fix all of the sfx and cg...

add in a few deleted scenes

re-edit it...

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Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon  7410 posts
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Date Posted: 12/21/08 6:14am Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade??
jedimasterbac posted:
Just to bump this up since the new thread was locked and directed here, I'll say what I said in the aforementioned thread.

With me, I guess it would come down to how we are going to define "remake". If it's an actual remaking of the films without many differences, I don't know how I'd feel about that mainly because it seems unoriginal. On the other hand, if it went the route of a reboot or re-imagining like Batman Begins/The Dark Knight or Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace then I would be very much in favor of it. Star Wars is starting to get a little stale and boring in terms of what is being released these days, and as seen with the Batman and Bond reboots it can really inject some fresh blood into faltering franchises. Even if it was a failure, it doesn't do any damage to the original films, as they are still there.

And just to point out, if there was to be a reboot, I would want the ENTIRE series rebooted, not just the Classic Trilogy.


My main problem, as I posted in the locked thread, is that a reboot that DIDN'T retool production design would be pointless, yet a ship called Millennium Falcon that doesn't look like this: would not, IMO, be Star Wars at all.

 

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Arawn_Fenn  10329 posts
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Date Posted: 12/21/08 8:26am Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade??
That picture needs to be remade. tongue

 

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jedimasterbac  6234 posts
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Date Posted: 12/21/08 9:18am Subject: RE: Should the OT be remade??
Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon posted:
jedimasterbac posted:
Just to bump this up since the new thread was locked and directed here, I'll say what I said in the aforementioned thread.

With me, I guess it would come down to how we are going to define "remake". If it's an actual remaking of the films without many differences, I don't know how I'd feel about that mainly because it seems unoriginal. On the other hand, if it went the route of a reboot or re-imagining like Batman Begins/The Dark Knight or Casino Royale/Quantum of Solace then I would be very much in favor of it. Star Wars is starting to get a little stale and boring in terms of what is being released these days, and as seen with the Batman and Bond reboots it can really inject some fresh blood into faltering franchises. Even if it was a failure, it doesn't do any damage to the original films, as they are still there.

And just to point out, if there was to be a reboot, I would want the ENTIRE series rebooted, not just the Classic Trilogy.


My main problem, as I posted in the locked thread, is that a reboot that DIDN'T retool production design would be pointless, yet a ship called Millennium Falcon that doesn't look like this: would not, IMO, be Star Wars at all.


Well, you can retool production design without changing the basics of the design. For example, take the new Star Trek movie which is sort of a sequel, prequel and reboot in one package. The Enterprise has been updated from the original TV show, looks a little more modern and believable, and yet it still keeps the basics of the ship so you know what you're looking at.

Original:



New:



You clearly know what you're looking at with the new version, but you still get a bit of an upgrade out of it.

 

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