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Guy-Gone_Weird Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 1/5/05 2:14pm Subject: Official Thread: Discussion of Potential Changes to the Classic Trilogy for Future Releases - Date Edited: 10/8/05 3:03pm (7 edits total) Edited By: TwiLekJedi
	I'm not sure if this is being discussed in the DVD changes thread, so I started a new topic. According to various sources, the entire Star Wars Saga will be released on HD DVD sometime in 2007 or 2008. It has also been said that GL will still be tinkering with both the OT and PT for that release, and actually may be doing that now as he finishes ROTS. Assuming that he does make some changes, which I'm sure he will, what do you think would be good, taking into account the fact that he will probably do it in order to make the saga fit together. When you look at the series in order, you may find that a certain episode needs a little something. This can also include undoing changes from the SE or DVD release. I would however ask that the OT purists please not respond unless they have a change/addition idea. This is only because of the many "flame wars" I have seen between purists and non-purists. Personally, I think ROTJ could use something (i dont know what) to make the climax more tense, just because otherwise, ROTS will likely make it look pretty dull. Should ROTS get a PG-13 rating, perhaps changes to ROTJ should include scarier, more intense, apocalyptic or even violent circumstances that would match the PG-13 rating. Another thing that would be nice is for the Death Star in ANH to have escorts like 2 Star Destroyers or something. Basically, I think it needs additions more than changes. Kind of like how there is the Extended Edition of each of the LOTR movies. Ousley edit: making this the official thread to encompass all future changes to the CT TLJ Edit: Locking for a fresh start in version 2 -----signature----- Oh no my friend! This is a mistake! A terrible mistake! They've gone too far! This is madness!!! - Darth Tyranus Come visit our creative community! (WIP) http://www.creative-blender.com/
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Darth-Seldon Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 1/5/05 2:21pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
	Are there any links to this information, there are so many rumors about DVDs, that it is really hard to tell. I don't really believe it till the Official site says something about them. Thanks for the information, Seldon -----signature----- Isaac Asimov was an innovative genius All posters are equal but some posters are more equal than others. JOE BIDEN 2012
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Cheebo86 Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 1/5/05 2:34pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
	Sheesh...were people this anxious for more after the SE's in 97? It seems everyone is talking about this so called "2007 Saga Boxset". -----signature----- "This is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it." - George Lucas
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Clone-Of-Kenobi Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 1/5/05 2:34pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
	This is not a change to the movies per se, but I would really, and I've said this before in another post, like a larger amount of bonus material. Just look at what they did with the Aliens Quadrilogy Box Set (still the best DVD set out there) and the Matrix Box. That's 9 & 10 DVD's and what do we get for star wars .. 4 discs. There is so much they could do... for instance seperate commentary tracks for Director/Production, Sound design/Visual effects & finally a track for actors/actresses. With commentarys like that you could hear the commentary you like. For example you could hear Ian and Mark talk about the scene's on the second death star instead of hearing about sound design or you could hear sound design commentaries if you prefer that. Other things to include in the bonus material could be "The myth & movies" behind star wars were they could talk about what mythological aspects and what movies inspired star wars and there could be interviews with the actors about being a part of the star wars legend. Concerning the movies they are close to perfect, but they still could have Temuera Morrison dub all the Stormtrooper voices to illustrate the clone background and I would like the Lightsaber effects to be more like in the PT. By that I mean ALL lightsaber effects including Luke's lightsaber when he gets his saber from Kenobi and when he is practicing aboard the Millenium Falcon and the Lightsaber fight between Vader and Kenobi. That's what I would like. -----signature----- Sock of Darth_Laudrup
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StormTrooper1776 Registered: Mar '04	Date Posted: 1/5/05 2:47pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
	The Ewoks in ROTJ really takes away the greatness of this movie.They should have digital creatures pasted over all the Ewoks,give them a new look. On ANH they digital pasted Jabba over a fat human guy that Harrison Ford was talking too.Why not do the same for the Ewoks in ROTJ. Also on TPM,they should re-edit Jar Jar's dialogue,to make him not look so stupid.Because he takes away the greatness to that film. -----signature----- ROTJ:Make all the ewoks CGI,make them ferocious like wolverines,agile like monkeys,have them climb trees,make them move fast,have them jump out of the trees and land on the stormtroopers,have there be thousands of them,Make stormtroopers have camo armor.
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Phredreeke87 Registered: Dec '02	Date Posted: 1/5/05 3:08pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
	Funny enough, I was in a discussion about future changes in an IRC channel earlier today. One of my suggestions was that in ESB, Vader gets a make over by queer eye by the straight guy, who gives him a pink lightsaber and shaves his eyebrows. Now, on the serious side... It'd be nice to have some of the early documentaries (Making of Star Wars, SFX of ESB, Classic Creatures, From Star Wars to Jedi). I'd like to see the "I am your father"-scene with the original recorded audio (Dave Prowse saying that Obi-Wan killed Luke's father). Left out special effects shots would also be nice, so would be the option to view certain scenes filmed on blue screen (without background matted in). -----signature----- CGI? Heh. Special Editions? Heh. A Jedi craves not these things. Rest in Peace Xeltek http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/7/2/18273/55210 Sälj Stockholm till Åland!
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Cheebo86 Registered: Aug '03	Date Posted: 1/5/05 3:09pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
	StormTrooper1776 posted on 1/5/05 2:47pm The Ewoks in ROTJ really takes away the greatness of this movie.They should have digital creatures pasted over all the Ewoks,give them a new look. On ANH they digital pasted Jabba over a fat human guy that Harrison Ford was talking too.Why not do the same for the Ewoks in ROTJ. Also on TPM,they should re-edit Jar Jar's dialogue,to make him not look so stupid.Because he takes away the greatness to that film. Big difference. Jabba was one character who was MENT to be replaced by a stop motion animation. Ewoks were tons and tons of characters that were all over the place and were ment like that. It would take a TON of work to delete them and replace them. In many cases it would just look weird since a bunch of the characters had close physical contact with the Ewoks. What you ask is just not feasable. -----signature----- "This is the movie I wanted it to be, and I'm sorry you saw half a completed film and fell in love with it." - George Lucas
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DarthLassic007 Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 1/5/05 3:14pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
	All this thread will do is get the purist in their Tosche Station voices to complain about Lucas not releasing the O-OT on DVD. -----signature----- Veni, Vidi, Vici. - Julius Caesar
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sandscraper Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 1/5/05 3:41pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
	It's really funny listening to some of these thoughts here.. Replace every ewok with 3d creatures just because they "take away from the grateness" It's almost like SW fans get tired of the films after watching them over and over again, and they expect new changes so that they have something to watch. Well, a good recepie would be to stop watching the films for a while, make a pause.. Ewoks are a significant part of 20th century culture, just like Munchkins or Gremlins. Classic movie creatures. I can't imagine a whole wood full of unrealistic CG characters jumping around. Or a replaced yoda, wow that would ruin my day. i never bought the yoda from ep2. It was experessive and all, but CG is CG, and photographed matter is photographed matter. I would really like to get inside the minds of people who say "digitally erase this, erase that, replace this, make CG that" and find out how do they imagine the process. what I would really like to see in a rerelease is a nicer, warmer and brighter color timing, and all the optical problems fixed. Basicly what I want to see is the same kind of look I saw on TV version of SE plus the additions from the DVD's.
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HanSolo29 Title: Fan Art Manager Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 1/5/05 3:50pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
	I'm pretty sure about a boxed set being released sometime in the furture, but 2007? I don't know what the likely hood of that will be. Right now, it's all rumors. But what would make this set something to remember? Personally, I would love to have both the SE and O-OT versions of the films together in one set as well as more bonus material - including deleted scenes. I wouldn't want anymore changes done to the films. Leave them as they are, but give us the O-OT and more bonus material and I'll be VERY happy! -----signature----- "One little spark of inspiration is at the heart of all creation." "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Romans 10:13 One of Hammer's Angels Fly casual
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Phredreeke87 Registered: Dec '02	Date Posted: 1/5/05 3:54pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
	2007 does sound early for HD release, remember how long it took for SD DVD... I think a DVD re-release is more likely -----signature----- CGI? Heh. Special Editions? Heh. A Jedi craves not these things. Rest in Peace Xeltek http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2005/7/2/18273/55210 Sälj Stockholm till Åland!
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NorCalBirdz Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 1/5/05 4:32pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
	That's assuming HD-DVD becomes the next standard format. Blu-Ray DVD is expected to compete. -----signature----- Wouldn't It Be Nice?
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sandscraper Registered: Dec '04	Date Posted: 1/5/05 5:20pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
	Whatever it is (HD or blue-ray) it will finally be a decent home video system. I remember the first propaganda in the 90's about DVD "cinema quality video and sound" ,well the soundtrack is even better than the cinema version of DD, but image couldn't even stand up to broadcast video standards. Now the compression is a LOT better than in the begining, and DVD's look closer to something you would expect from professional broadcast tapes. But cinema, please.. But HD DVD will indeed bring us the quality of a smaller screen cinema presentation. HD is quite enough to fill the smallest multiplex screens. But I still envy my grandmother when she talks about times when first Technicolor films started to come into her village. She said they were all amazed by the gorgeous color of IB prints, specially since they were all used to BW films. All we get now are duped down desturated prints. But you can find a breathtaking print here and there when someone really makes an effort.
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Clone-Of-Kenobi Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 1/6/05 2:42am Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
	I would be nice to get some of the scenes that have never made it to the movies. The Tosche station scene and the scene after Luke resues his friends from Jabba. -----signature----- Sock of Darth_Laudrup
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The-Tennis-Ball-Kid Registered: Sep '04	Date Posted: 1/6/05 4:46am Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release - Date Edited: 1/6/05 5:01am (1 edits total) Edited By: The-Tennis-Ball-Kid
	Besides the obvious desire to get both the original and SSE versions of the film, along with any available deleted scenes, I'd want just a few things: 1. Finish the restoration job on ANH. The color's over-bright, some of dialog's fuzzy, and the music is mixed way too low. And Luke's lightsaber really shouldn't be three different colors. 2. Ditch the Jabba scene in ANH, having him and Han repeat the previous scenes dialog nearly word for word serves no purpose, and slows the film down at a point where it's already slow enough. And besides, the CG Jabba, while better, still looks fake in comparision to ROTJ Jabba. 3. Restore the original ending to ESB, the Vader scene is unnecessary and breaks up the music. 4. Use John Williams original music in the scene where we first see the Imperial fleet in ESB('Aboard The Executor' on the soundtrack), and the alternate 'Sail Barge Attack' music. They don't need anything added(just a couple tweaks),more isn't necessarily better, and I don't see how the ending of ROTJ could possibly be more intense. "All this thread will do is get the purist in their Tosche Station voices to complain about Lucas not releasing the O-OT on DVD." Or give you a chance to whine about them, in your Tosche Station voice? ttbk -----signature----- "Foreshadowing with a sledgehammer....."
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Darth_Sammy52 Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 1/6/05 7:34am Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release - Date Edited: 1/6/05 7:38am (1 edits total) Edited By: Darth_Sammy52
	I would like the lightsaber effects to look better. All of them should be like the PT sabers. And all the space scenes/battles should be totally and 100% completely redone in total CG so that it actually looks real, and also so that there aren't any of them annoying boxes around the ships/planets, plus all the other effects that look fake. Change Yoda in TPM to CG, not because that I'm one of those whiners who can't stand how he looks because I, for one, like Yoda's look in all the movies, but it should be redone to CG so that the CG Yoda is consistent throughout the PT. Jabba in ANH still looks like he could use some improvement. Hayden in ROTJ is okay, but could also use some improvement. How about pasting his entire body over Shaw's instead of just his head? Temuera should redo some of the stormtroopers voices, but not all of them, as not all of them are clones. And I would also like a lot more bonus features. -----signature----- "None of us can choose where we will love." ~ Susan Kay's 'Phantom' "Let he among us without sin be the first to condemn." "Sometimes I wish I was a Republican. Then I wouldn't have to worry about other people's feelings." ~ Grace Adler, Will & Grace
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