Author Topic: Official Thread: Discussion of Potential Changes to the Classic Trilogy for Future Releases
DarthAJ  1914 posts
Registered: Dec '04
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Date Posted: 1/11/05 9:33pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
more jedi in Rotj

mace
gui-gon

i know it shows us in Rots why they aren't there but they are so cool

Aotc-

Grevious intro at the end with sid. and dooku or something to set up his character.

 

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crimsonrain65000 
Registered: Nov '04
22367_Darth Vader
Date Posted: 1/11/05 10:29pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
The only real changes I really really want to see, is all the ships CGI. Can you imagine the Death star trench run in CGI? All the star destroyers CGI....that would really be something to see!

 

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DARTHFINGERZ  1528 posts
Registered: Nov '04
13558_Qui-Gon Jinn
Date Posted: 1/11/05 11:15pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
It is difficult for me to think about changes for TPM & AOTC because I'm not as familiar with those films.

Only changes I can think of is some of the stuff already mentioned such as.....

CGI the puppet Yoda in TPM. That puppet is just awful.

Add in Dooku to the funeral scene @ the end of TPM.

 

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Yoda_Jedi_Luke  2216 posts
Registered: Sep '03
40712_Yoda
Date Posted: 1/12/05 12:46am Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
Some of these changes are excessive. And Lucas has the ability to change these films how he wants. Let him do it, I'm sure it will be worth it.

He obviously wouldn't let the white saber slide, would he, when he is such a perfectionist and aims to give the best presentation.

 

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Obi-one-Kenobi 
Registered: Jan '05
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Date Posted: 1/12/05 6:54am Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release - Date Edited: 1/12/05 1:09pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Strilo
Alrighty I got a good one. I hope im not spoiling but in the episode 3 script I read Strilo edit: Spoilers are bad, mmmkay?

 

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Yoda_Jedi_Luke  2216 posts
Registered: Sep '03
40712_Yoda
Date Posted: 1/12/05 7:44am Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
No, that would not be cool. It would be cheesy, and terribly hard to pull off. Also you have just spoiled everyone

 

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Obi-one-Kenobi 
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Date Posted: 1/12/05 8:28am Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release - Date Edited: 1/12/05 1:10pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Strilo
I know I spoiled you but I couldnt resist grin

Strilo edit: Bad idea...

 

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Darth Sin  5285 posts
Registered: Oct '99
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Date Posted: 1/12/05 8:45am Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
In the ESB SE, showing Vader traveling from Cloud City to his Star Destroyer in my estimation was excessive and pointless. Why did we need to see this happen.

And worst of all, why change what he said in the original, "Bring my shuttle"!! And then change it to that lame statement, "Tell my Star Destroyer, prepare for my arrival"!

I like the original so much better, because you got the feel that Vader was extremely pissed in Luke possibly getting away.


By the way, for AOTC, if they actually had longer footage of Mace versus Jango in the arena, I would liek to see that added back in. But for me, I think that should have been Obi-Wan's kill, instead of Mace because of what was setup in the first part of the film with the tension and fight between them on Kamino.


Darth Sin! cool

 

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Yoda_Jedi_Luke  2216 posts
Registered: Sep '03
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Date Posted: 1/12/05 8:51am Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
The ESB arrival is OK. But I want a Vader-goes-to-Coruscant scene.

 

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Guy-Gone_Weird  114 posts
Registered: Jul '03
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Date Posted: 1/12/05 9:35am Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release - Date Edited: 1/12/05 9:40am (2 edits total) Edited By: Guy-Gone_Weird
Exactly. He's getting older. Why would he want to be burdened with the OT for the rest of his life? That's what doesn't make sense. You would think he would want to move onto other things, leaving the OT safely behind him.


You make it sound like GL hates the OT. Burdened? The only thing he's burdened with is complaining fans. He wants his vision fulfilled. Not just "good enough." Otherwise, there would have been no SE. He wants to die with his Saga complete the way he wants it. And why would it take the rest of his life to make the changes and additions suggested here? The only reason that SE wasn't the final version was because he had not yet made the PT. The reason the DVD release isn't the final is because it was rushed, and he was simultaneously working on ROTS, which is arguably one of the most important chapters in the Star Wars Saga.

Why is it that we can't have a civil thread about what would be cool to add/change to the OT without starting a flame war!? Everyone knows the Purists positions and opinions and respect them. But as I said in the first post, this thread is not reccomended for Purists unless they have ideas, or can make input without negating the entire purpose of this thread.

 

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Yoda_Jedi_Luke  2216 posts
Registered: Sep '03
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Date Posted: 1/12/05 9:42am Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
Exactly. And lucas originally hoped to wait until 2007 anyway.

the 2004 set is the best versions to date, and in 2007, if there is another set, so be it.

 

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crimsonrain65000 
Registered: Nov '04
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Date Posted: 1/12/05 11:30am Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
I have a question about the "Bring me my shuttle" line. Isn't Vader's shuttle RIGHT outside? They show him walking to it in the very next shot, so wouldnt it be kind'a of weird if he said bring me my shuttle and BAM its already there?

 

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DARTH_CHINA  7745 posts
Registered: Dec '01
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Date Posted: 1/12/05 11:42am Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
I have a question about the "Bring me my shuttle" line. Isn't Vader's shuttle RIGHT outside? They show him walking to it in the very next shot, so wouldnt it be kind'a of weird if he said bring me my shuttle and BAM its already there?

Yeah, that's probably the reason why they changed the line. The exterior shot of Vader going to the shuttle was a SE-addition, therefore the "bring my shuttle" line didn't fit anymore.

Personally, I don't have problems with the line. The only addition I don't like is Vader arriving on the Executor, only because of the clumsy musical editing and because it hurts the flow of that great escape sequence. (IMO)

 

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mmsportsman19  53 posts
Registered: Jan '05
14984_Clone Troopers
Date Posted: 1/12/05 12:08pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
Ok many people have asked me how in the world the Jedi ghost could even remotly work with Mace, Qui-Gonn ect.

This would require some reshooting and a few different angles.

First after the celebrations cut to a force ghost Anakin, then show the others, and have anakin hug Qui-Gonn, Mace, Yoda?, then have him turn and face OBI and they look at each other intently and the OBI Smiles and gives him a hug, then they all turn around and look at Luke, (The whole time Luke is watching them, and he can be like hmm, dads old friends). It would really be a very good ending.

The way i have envisioned it really sends chills down my spine.

EDIT: You have to do something with Alec though. Have his face superinposed or use existing footage. I dunno. But it can work and would rock if it worked like that.


 

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h0ly123  82 posts
Registered: Dec '04
23589_Darth Vader
Date Posted: 1/12/05 1:02pm Subject: RE: DVD changes for 2007 HD release
As far as changes go, for the most part I think NEW scenese are a bad idea. Extended or imrpoved scenes however are fine.

As far as the whole urinating on the original creators thing I think that's a bunch of bs. I mean come on, as if the original theatrical runs of all three movies and the orignial vhs runs wearn't enough credit? Geeze if Lucas thinks they look like crap and wants them changed to better match his vision with newer technology more power to him. I personally agree with Lucas, I think the Ships, Yoda, Sabres, ATAT's, etc, all look like crap by today's standards. If you can't see that you havn't seen LOTR or any of the prequels. The cgi looks better PERIOD. Sure you get some nostalgia out of the models and puppets but to honestly say that they look better is rediculous.

Any way as far as changes go I think they should cgi all sabres, space ships, and basically all aliens in the saga. I don't want any NEW scences as that would have an effect on the story (new dialouge basically), but I would like the ANH Obi/Vader duel redone if it can. ESB and ROTJ duels are all pretty good other than the whole swinging at the sabre 5 times in a row to get to a hand deal. Other than that I'm good. I just want the visuals updated, the story is damn good as is.

 

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