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Shelley Registered: Sep '01	Date Posted: 1/28/05 10:39pm Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie?
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Leias_love_slave Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 1/28/05 11:40pm Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie? - Date Edited: 1/28/05 11:43pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Leias_love_slave
	...and they all lived happily ever after. Goodnight, you two! -----signature----- "I was Leia's slave-boy." blushes
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TripleB Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 1/29/05 1:15am Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie?
	well, I can only speak for myself. I would never call ROTJ a bad movie, at least not the classic, non-corrupted non-SE version. However, in my opinion, there is no denying that ROTJ was a stepdown from TESB. I could argue that after TESB, that it would have been virtually impossible to outdo that film. THere would be some validity to that, as TESB was such a masterpiece. To me, while ROTJ was good, really good, it was not ANH/TESB level mastery. I don't want to regurgitate the whole Gary Kurtz thing again, but I personally have to look at how Star Wars has detiorated now that he is away from it over the years. That's about all I can say. -----signature----- 11/07/2006 is going to be a bad day for the Dem's, a great one for the gop because my political realities always pan out & because I will have seen Mel Gibson's THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST 100 times by then!!! VIVA OBI-WAN McCARTNEY!!!! Ep1&2<most EU
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Sekot_Seedship Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 1/29/05 1:30am Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie? - Date Edited: 1/29/05 1:35am (1 edits total) Edited By: Sekot_Seedship
	Don't really know. But one of my friends said he found the fact that the Emperor's best stormtroopers were beaten by a bunch of cudly bears to be a bit wrong. While I can agree that maybe that section could be improved on, I doute that is enough to make it hated. ROTJ is one of my favorites of the collection, the lightsaber duals were amazing, the fighter scenes sucked you into the action and chaos of the moment, and the overall story was very nice. In my book, ROTJ along with ANH and TESB, are a five and a 1/2 stars. -----signature-----
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LORD_MONSTROSITY Registered: Apr '04	Date Posted: 1/29/05 8:41am Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie?
	I used to think ROTJ was a bad movie. I thought the Ewoks were lame. That was my reasoning. Then I realized the damage that could really be done. Also, I saw the prequels (which I like but are nowhere near as enjoyable for me) It's awesome. Jabba's palace is awesome. Luke firing up the lightsaber for the first time still gives me a serious rush and the Death Star Battle rocks. The duel sucks, though. Can anyone tell me if the Special Edition soundtrack for ROTJ has the original Max Rebo band number on it?
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Chaotic_Serenity Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 1/29/05 10:30am Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie?
	Don't really know. But one of my friends said he found the fact that the Emperor's best stormtroopers were beaten by a bunch of cudly bears to be a bit wrong. But they weren't...those "cuddly teddy bears" got slaughtered. o_0 They provided a diversion, at best, and maybe scored a few kills, but nothing too much else. It was the rebels who defeated the stormtroopers and completed the mission. -----signature----- Part of the Darth Vader Fanclub. Because good is dumb. The ability to bash a movie does not make one intelligent. Sith for '08: Why vote for a less oppressive regime?
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RogueScribner Title: Webmaster Or lando FL FanForce Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 1/29/05 12:09pm Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie? - Date Edited: 1/29/05 12:12pm (1 edits total) Edited By: RogueScribner
	...those "cuddly teddy bears" got slaughtered. What proof do you have of this? I saw one Ewok casualty. No one in the movie ever spoke of more. It certainly looked as if the Ewoks were holding their own against the troops. To me, while ROTJ was good, really good, it was not ANH/TESB level mastery. I don't want to regurgitate the whole Gary Kurtz thing again, but I personally have to look at how Star Wars has detiorated now that he is away from it over the years. That's about all I can say. Well that just opened the proverbial can of worms! L8r -----signature----- "I find your lack of faith disturbing." - http://www.orlandosystem.com - "You can't take the sky from me . . . ."
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Leias_love_slave Registered: Oct '03	Date Posted: 1/29/05 12:42pm Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie?
	I will always wonder if Kurtz had worked on ROTJ... ...would he have pushed to give the metal bikini more screen time. sighs wistfully -----signature----- "I was Leia's slave-boy." blushes
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RDaneel Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 1/29/05 1:10pm Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie? - Date Edited: 1/29/05 10:29pm (1 edits total) Edited By: The2ndQuest
	The musical number in Jaba's cantina is a horrid travesty that needs to be edited out of the movie entirely. Ewoks Some would also argue that Han Solo has no point in this movie and that his recue was a bit too convenient and that he should have died (Lucas' own people say this on the dvd commentary). The new version of the ending of the movie is also bad.
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Hades2021 Registered: May '03	Date Posted: 1/29/05 2:20pm Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie?
	I love ROTJ! The emperor rules! The problem is the editing. Especially during the Sarlac battle. Although the score here is brilliant, there's a lot of bad cuts, (IMO, of course) and the fact that the saber can't cut through anyone like it does in the PT. In real adult life, the ewok battle is not believable, but it fits just right for kids. They are the underdogs, so they have to win. It's sort of a childish thing you know, having the ewoks win. -----signature----- "LIAR!" "Anakin, you're breaking my heart!" Nute Gunray Fan club
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Diogonese Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 1/29/05 4:03pm Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie?
	...aside from the fact that ROTJ stunk so badly, that the film cans should have carried biological hazard stickers, the trilogy format simply didn't work. There was far too much going on at the end of ESB, to be wrapped up in only one more film. ANOTHER CHAPTER WAS NEEDED. Think about it; episode V's most startling revelation wasn't just Luke's parentage, it was the fact that everyone EXCEPT Vader, was lying. Obi Wan, Yoda, even (arguably) Han and Leia, were playing Luke for a fool. His trusted mentors are using him as a pawn, his best friend is making time with his girl (discard all the brother/sister nonsense), the galaxy is falling apart at the seams, and the only person Luke can turn to for the truth...is the BAD GUY! What an incredible set up for a fourth film. (Sigh) ESB cast all in complex shades of grey, but Lucas chose to blow it all with technicolor mediocrity. Truly, not the ending the Star Wars saga deserved.
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Padmes_love_slave24 Registered: Mar '03	Date Posted: 1/29/05 7:23pm Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie?
	"However, in my opinion, there is no denying that ROTJ was a stepdown from TESB". Well I would argue that ROTJ is equal to ESB it is from my point of view. ROTJ is a masterpiece and it is the best ending of a saga period and I don't care how many LOTR "fans" tell me ROTK is the best. Diogonese btw I have never seen a more incoherent post than yours I don't know why people such as yourself even pretend being fans! -----signature----- The internet you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy People who follow consensus opinions are mindless sheep! South Park SUCKS! Go Bears! LOTR=Cure for Insomnia!
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Diogonese Registered: Jul '02	Date Posted: 1/29/05 10:54pm Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie?
	...my post was incoherent? In what way? Do you have trouble reading? Don't be embarrassed. Admitting that you have a problem, is the first step in overcoming it.
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Tyranus_the_Hutt Registered: Nov '04	Date Posted: 1/30/05 5:32am Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie?
	Although I respectfully disagree with Diogonese's comments, they certainly weren't incoherent. Nicely articulated, I thought. I don't mind the musical number in Jabba's Palace; perhaps it is a bit derivative, but it, like the rest of the film, is full of riotous character invention. Whenever I watch the film, I am always impressed by the sheer volume of richness and creativity contained within the film's canvas. Great care has been taken with the design of many of the creatures and sets in the picture. Contrast this with languid, unimaginative films such as "Independence Day", in which the creative apex of creature design is some sort of marginally-rendered squid. I don't know what others think, but my vote certainly tilts in favor of "Jedi" on this one. -----signature----- "The screen is a magic medium. It has such power that it can retain interest as it conveys emotions and moods that no other art form can hope to tackle." - Stanley Kubrick
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JediDJ1013 Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 1/30/05 6:41am Subject: RE: Why Is ROTJ Considered A Bad Movie?
	I posted this already somewhere, but all 3 movies would be even better if they had better actors delivering the smaller lines like "she's gonna blow" or "two fighters against a star destroyer?" KWIM? -----signature----- "whateva! whateva! I do what I want!!" - Cartman
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