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inkswamp Registered: Oct '04	Date Posted: 3/31/05 12:03pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original? - Date Edited: 3/31/05 12:04pm (1 edits total) Edited By: inkswamp
	You can't compare a painting to a movie. That's true, but what's sort of humorous about that comparison is that there are people who do detailed restoration work on the classics and, in some cases, the restoration reveals details or things that were previously unseen. The work done on The Last Supper was one such case. During a clean-up and restoration, details came out that had never been seen before--effectively, a change in what we had previously thought the painting contained. We get to see what the artist intended, not what we originally experienced it as. That being the case, art lovers everywhere are not screaming and crying about it. However, according to the logic of some Star Wars fans, those details should never have been revealed as it changed what we saw the first time we saw the painting. -----signature----- LAME COMEBACK #1 - Lucas should have done it my way or it's wrong LAME COMEBACK #2 - I can't think metaphorically so it's a PLOT HOLE LAME COMEBACK #3 - Complex interpretations confuse me LAME COMEBACK #4 - Lucas must spoon-feed me every detail
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calidevilguy Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 3/31/05 1:50pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
	And as for this argument that removing actors from the OT and replacing them actors from the PT or with CGI aliens is disrespectful, thats part of being an actor - the director has control over how big you're part is, and whether or not you even end up in the movie. Look at the actors who were to play Padme's family, their scenes were completely cut from AotC, was that disrespectful to them? No, just part of being an actor.
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Devilanse Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 3/31/05 2:57pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
	It's Lowry Digital's restoration, the blame lies on their shoulders. Negative. Star Wars is Lucas' baby. Any mistakes found in the film are up to him to get corrected. He has ultimate control of what is released to the public. Exactly. -----signature----- WAR!
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HanSolo29 Title: Fan Art Manager Registered: Apr '01	Date Posted: 3/31/05 3:54pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
	And as for this argument that removing actors from the OT and replacing them actors from the PT or with CGI aliens is disrespectful, thats part of being an actor - the director has control over how big you're part is, and whether or not you even end up in the movie. Look at the actors who were to play Padme's family, their scenes were completely cut from AotC, was that disrespectful to them? No, just part of being an actor. Some of what you said is true, but there are major differences. For one, Sebastian Shaw DID make it into the final cut of the film - he's been there for 20 years. And then just coming in and replacing him with some fresh, young actor is wrong, IMO. With the example of Padme's family - they never even made it into the film. Audiences have never seen their performances except on the special features section of the DVD. They're two totally different situations. You can't compare the two. -----signature----- "One little spark of inspiration is at the heart of all creation." "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved." Romans 10:13 One of Hammer's Angels Fly casual
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Captain_Typho Registered: Jul '03	Date Posted: 3/31/05 4:26pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
	absolutely 100% better.....and Venture, I know you and me disagree on this point. -----signature----- To answer Typho's question from January, we have not banned his account. Murder is not a bannable offense here on TFN. Right now, you wanna go out and kill like ten guys, you can still post here, long as ya don't say naughty words.-Adam Bertocci
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calidevilguy Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 3/31/05 5:04pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
	HanSolo29: How is it different? GL just reedited his movie, its like a director's cut. Had GL had a young Anakin at the time thats how he would have done it. He just edited his movie the way he wanted, sometime all actors have to deal with
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battlewars Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 3/31/05 6:43pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original? - Date Edited: 3/31/05 7:01pm (2 edits total) Edited By: battlewars
	your right i enjoyed the non cg rugged gritty ot better, no matter what you do with cg it always sticks out, i know lucas has cast his lot with digital but i liked it when he just used it for invisible effects like in young indy where he changed things and so on with no one the wiser
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Freddy-Krueger Registered: Jan '05	Date Posted: 3/31/05 8:14pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
	Sebastian Shaw DID make it into the final cut of the film - he's been there for 20 years. And he's still in the final cut of the film. People act as if he was totally removed. -----signature----- "At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi. At last we will have our revenge!"
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Archduke_of_Pornland Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 3/31/05 8:31pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
	I think the new versions are much better. Both picture and audio quality. I prefer the Hayden ghost. -----signature----- They misunderestimated me-George Bush Those who forget the past are condemned to relive it-Santayana Try not. Do, or do not-Yoda I am a fascist prostitute-Jordan Armstrong
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battlewars Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 3/31/05 9:28pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
	cg just doesnt mesh well with real elements even jar jar looked funky along with all the digital characters in tpm
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Jediknight_Wendy Registered: Feb '05	Date Posted: 3/31/05 11:47pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
	Spleeny-Doo-Koo <<ALL great reasons for the re-working of the original trilogy - BUT PLEASE next time get rid of the "force slug" moving around on Palpatine's hood during the Throne Room Scenes in ROTJ ... PLEASE >> Thank god im glad you brought that up i always see it but i never said anything as no one eles ever see's it and i didnt want people to think i was....seeing things -----signature----- It will be a hard life.One without reward,without remorse,without regret. A path will be placed before you.The choice is yours alone.Do What you think you cannot do it will be a hard life but you will find out Who you are -Qui-gon jinn
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battlewars Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 4/1/05 12:49am Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original? - Date Edited: 4/1/05 1:08am (2 edits total) Edited By: battlewars
	you don't see them as well because the special edition is so dark, do you think anyone from ILM will ever explain the emperors slugs?
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Nordom Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 4/1/05 3:44am Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
	About restoration, Film does degrade over time, the color fades, it gets dirtier, scratched the more you use it etc. If you take a film that was filmed in 1950 and looked at it today it would probably look worse than what it did in 1950 because of filmdegradation, dirt etc. Enter restoration, the film is cleaned up, colors restored and so on. In the end the film looks as good as it did in 1950. So restoration often involves trying to restore a movie so that it looks as good as it originally did. In this case some argue that SW looks better than it did when it was first released. I did see all three movies on their initial release but I would be very hesitant to compare the actual picture and sound quality between them. Firstly because I would be comparing a cinema to my TV set, the picture is smaller on my TV as is the sound and the whole experience is different. Secondly I would be comparing something that I saw over twenty years ago with today, and my memory is not that good that I can make such a comparison with any accuracy. In my view restoration often means to get the movie to look and sound as good as it once did, so no change involved. Ex. a movie opened in 1970 and some people saw it, then it was rerelased in 1990 but the film had degraded somewhat and so the people in 1990 saw a film with lesser sound and picture quality than those in 1970. In 2000 the film was restored and those that did see it in 1990 were very thrilled as they felt that the picture was much improved but those that did see it in 1970 saw little difference. Regards Nordom -----signature----- "I think, therefore I am.. I think" "Morte, how do you stay afloat?" "Flatulence, you stupid polygon"
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RogueScribner Title: Webmaster Or lando FL FanForce Registered: Jan '04	Date Posted: 4/1/05 3:21pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
	restore - return to its original or usable and functioning condition alter - cause to change; make different; cause a transformation It's not a difficult concept. Likening a clean print and color correction to adding additional scenes and dialogue is ridiculous. L8r -----signature----- "I find your lack of faith disturbing." - http://www.orlandosystem.com - "You can't take the sky from me . . . ."
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Billy_Dee_Binks Registered: Mar '02	Date Posted: 4/1/05 3:29pm Subject: RE: Is the redone trilogy better then the original?
	I think the OT has improved thanks to the Special Edition and especially the DVD Edition. It improved the movie by making it visually more interesting than it already was- which works perfectly as we dive into another galaxy here and offers more variety. -----signature----- I like all six Star Wars Episodes equally.
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