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Evil_Imp Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 10/18/05 9:50am Subject: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	Why?, they know how devastating it was. just think of POOR Mace. so why not prepare him?. cause they had no idea Vader would save Luke. they wanted Luke to kill him. i don't get it. Luke walked right into it. -----signature----- If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
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darthvaderv Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 10/18/05 9:53am Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	Yep! I don't get it either. What excuse shall we come up with for this great big plot hole? Nope can't think right now. -----signature----- You are beaten, it is useless to resist!
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Lars_Muul Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 10/18/05 9:57am Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	He may have known about Force lightning, but I think it's quite obvious that he wasn't powerful enough to block it with his hands anyway. He had thrown his lightsaber away because he had realized that fighting wouldn't help him. He had to win his father back to the good side or die trying. Luke is suicidal /LM
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darthvaderv Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 10/18/05 10:00am Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	Lars_Muul posted: He may have known about Force lightning, but I think it's quite obvious that he wasn't powerful enough to block it with his hands anyway. He had thrown his lightsaber away because he had realized that fighting wouldn't help him. He had to win his father back to the good side or die trying. Luke is suicidal /LM Yeah! he must be suicidal if you think that. -----signature----- You are beaten, it is useless to resist!
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Lars_Muul Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 10/18/05 10:10am Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ? - Date Edited: 10/18/05 10:10am (1 edits total) Edited By: Lars_Muul
	That's not my opinion. It's exactly what happens. That - it's not this /LM
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shadowplay_80 Registered: Aug '01	Date Posted: 10/18/05 11:02am Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	Yoda is the only one we ever see blocking force-lightning without a saber, so maybe it's a skill that takes 700 years or so to learn -----signature----- What would Cheston do? http://mikyagu.com (Mikyagu! the webcomic of champions!)
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LORDVIGILANCE Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 10/18/05 2:03pm Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	shadowplay_80 posted: Yoda is the only one we ever see blocking force-lightning without a saber, so maybe it's a skill that takes 700 years or so to learn Perhaps it was a technique that took an unusual amount of time to learn so Yoda just thought it wasn't worth it. However, seeing that Force-lightning was one of the Emperor's primary forms of attack I don't see why Yoda wouldn't at least warn him of it.
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Kalio_Dynkos Registered: May '04	Date Posted: 10/18/05 2:15pm Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	Whose to say he didn't? We don't see all of his training. Luke wasn't a complete idiot. He may done been willing to spring the trap in a final attempt to turn Vader. He must have felt the attacks going well, or at the least, known he would either win or die trying. -----signature----- Co-creator of RPF Holonet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5_OSsawz4 Worth it
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solo77 Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 10/18/05 2:34pm Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	Obi Wan tells Luke "not to underestimate the power of the Emperor, or suffer the same fate as Vader" What more do you want! -----signature-----
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LORDVIGILANCE Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 10/18/05 3:04pm Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	Whose to say he didn't? We don't see all of his training. Luke wasn't a complete idiot. He may done been willing to spring the trap in a final attempt to turn Vader. He must have felt the attacks going well, or at the least, known he would either win or die trying. Well, if Yoda had informed Luke of the Emperor's dark side fetish with Force-lightning than I doubt Luke would have just thrown his lightsaber away. True it was a symbolic gesture of "I'm going to win or die trying" but surely Yoda would have at least told Luke that Force-lightning could be absorbed through a lightsaber. Obi Wan tells Luke "not to underestimate the power of the Emperor, or suffer the same fate as Vader" What more do you want! Technically, Darth Vader never experienced Force-lightning from Emperor Palpatine nor was it apart of his turning.
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rhonderoo Title: Former Head Admin Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 10/18/05 3:07pm Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	My friends and always laugh about this part of ROTJ. Vader is laying there saying, "Don't throw that lightsaber....away...Luke. Crap. I guess Obi-wan never told you what happens with lightning." -----signature----- DT421 FYI: You don't deal with me. I deal with you. Damned right the Jedi's fire has gone out of the universe. I was the bad-ass Class C extinguisher who snuffed them. - @darthvader (Darth Vader on Twitter)
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solo77 Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 10/18/05 3:25pm Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	LORDVIGILANCE posted: i]Obi Wan tells Luke "not to underestimate the power of the Emperor, or suffer the same fate as Vader" What more do you want![/i] Technically, Darth Vader never experienced Force-lightning from Emperor Palpatine nor was it apart of his turning. Yeah but that has nothing to do with this. Obi Wan warned him , so there ya go! -----signature-----
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DUGGY Registered: Apr '05	Date Posted: 10/18/05 3:48pm Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ? - Date Edited: 10/18/05 3:53pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DUGGY
	Did he now? .^^^^ then Obi should have said don't throw down your saber Luke, or he will shoot lightning at you. "don't underestimate the power of the Emperor"?. duh. that's a given . How about stop talking in riddles Obi / Yoda and give some sound advice. like Lightning hurts real bad. or don't face the Emperor unarmed. there was no real warning. just vague advice. -----signature----- http://outerrimsieges.com/
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Ron_Burgundy Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 10/18/05 3:53pm Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	If they had told Luke about lightning it would ruin the surprise you get in ROTJ when he busts it out! -----signature----- You stay classy San Diego I love scotch. Scotchy, scotch, scotch. Here it goes down, down into my belly... Good evening. I'm Ron Burgundy and here's what happening in your world tonight.
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farrellg Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 10/18/05 4:16pm Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	I don't think it would matter if Obi-Wan or Yoda told Luke about lightning. Even with a lightsaber, Luke would have been defenseless against the lightning because the Emperor is so much more powerful than him during ROTJ. -----signature----- Non so d'onde viene quel tenero affetto. http://boards.outerrimsieges.com
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skyysoblue Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 10/18/05 4:26pm Subject: RE: Why did ObiWan or Yoda not prepare Luke for Force lightning in ROTJ?
	Luke wasn't the only person ever taken by surprise by Force lightning. Don't forget that in the end of AOTC that Anakin was taken down rather easily by Dooku using force lightning. The more important question (which has been posted before) was whether Yoda and Obi-Wan should have said more than "don't underestimate the power of the emperor" The answer could be more insightful than we think: Obi Wan and Yoda both knew that Luke could never defeat the emperor. Their only hope was to have Luke turn back Anakin. If Luke successfully defends himself against the Emperor, he would probably suffer the same fate as Mace Windu.
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