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METAVOID Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 10/23/05 12:05pm Subject: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	So did Anakin's dream come true of freeing all the slaves indirectly through Leia and Luke destroying Jabba and his minions in ROTJ? Your thoughts? -----signature----- "Are you threatening me, Master Jedi?" "Mister, we deal in lead." "Doh!" "Blaine is a pain"
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Grand_Moff_Jawa Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 10/23/05 12:08pm Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	Jabba had Leia as a slave, but I don't recall anywhere else in the OT where Hutts owned slaves. -----signature----- "I can't abide those Jawas... disgusting creatures"! - C3PO This sig line is [FABULOUSO!] www.outerrimsieges.com "It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." -- Carl Sagan
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METAVOID Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 10/23/05 12:21pm Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	In EP 1 Anakin mentioned that a Gardolla The Hutt owned him and his mother at one time. Was Gardolla a female and the wife of Jabba? Perhaps that was the other Hutt like creature at Jabba's side during the podraces. I just thought that since Jabba was the law and disorder of Tatooine, he and his minions would have enforced and maybe encouraged the slavery situation as well as any other rackets on Tattooine since the Empire had no substantial presence there. And after Leia, Luke and the other rebels disposed of the Hutt regime; Tattoine would have been changed for the better in regards to the human and non-human conditions concerning slave labor. -----signature----- "Are you threatening me, Master Jedi?" "Mister, we deal in lead." "Doh!" "Blaine is a pain"
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acidfireeyes Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 10/23/05 4:53pm Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	I was never under the impression that killing Jabba would have ended the slavery situation on Tatooine. Slavery seemed pretty wide spread on the planet, from what I see in the prequals. That would be like saying, killing one guy in the south before the civil war would have freed the slaves and averted a war. He may have had his hands in the slave market but he didn't own all the slaves. -----signature----- “Dreams come true. Without that possibility, nature would not incite us to have them.” John Updike “Treat your friend as if he might become an enemy.” Publilius Syrus “The empires of the future are the empires of the mind.” Sir Winston Churchill
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METAVOID Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 10/23/05 5:19pm Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	With Jabba out of the way I think maybe slavery on Tattooine lost an ally. And I venture to say that if Jefferson Davis or Robert E Lee were killed, slavery would have ended just as it did with Lee's surrender of confederate forces. Additionally with Anakin fulfilling the prophecy and ending the Empire. The restoring of the Republic would surely include Tattoine with the Hutt's out of the way and I am sure Luke and Leia in the political arena would have sway in favor of it. -----signature----- "Are you threatening me, Master Jedi?" "Mister, we deal in lead." "Doh!" "Blaine is a pain"
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acidfireeyes Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 10/23/05 5:36pm Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	If Lincoln had sent an assassin to kill Davis of Lee before or during the Civil War it would not have ended slavery or the war. All I am saying is the death of one person would not be enough to end the slavery. And considering Tatooine was not a part of the old Republic and really not a part of the Empire what makes you think it would be a part of the New Republic. Just because it was Luke Skywalkers home planet wouldn’t make it a priority. Just because you kill the head of the Mafia doesn’t not mean the Mafia dies too. Someone else just swoops in and takes over the territory. I am pretty sure Jabba wasn’t the only ganster on the planet. -----signature----- “Dreams come true. Without that possibility, nature would not incite us to have them.” John Updike “Treat your friend as if he might become an enemy.” Publilius Syrus “The empires of the future are the empires of the mind.” Sir Winston Churchill
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Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa Registered: Jan '02	Date Posted: 10/23/05 7:18pm Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	The Hutts never ran the slavery operations directly. They were gangsters that just happened to oversee it. -----signature----- Dum Roma deliberat Saguntum perit. http://smuggler-of-mos-espa.deviantart.com/
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LAJ_FETT Title: •Tech Admin, Collecting • CCG/TCG Boardgames Registered: May '02	Date Posted: 10/24/05 4:13am Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	Gardulla the Hutt was a female rival of Jabba's. In the Bounty Hunter game, Jango goes to Jabba seeking information about the Bando Gora. Jabba points him in Gardulla's direction and asks Jango to eliminate her 'as a favor'. A cutscene later in the game shows Jango shoving her off her seat in her palace down to where a Krayt Dragon is waiting. The dragon eats her before going after Jango (boss battle on that level). -----signature----- BF - 'Bounty Hunter Wars': "Don't be an idiot. Or at least not any more of one than you have to be." "All that matters is my life and my business." "I do the things I'm good at, and for which I get paid the best." http://www.lajfett.yolasite.com
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one_armed_scissor_14 Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 10/24/05 2:16pm Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	I think there would have been some freeing of slaves, but I think the planet was so sparsely populated at this point so as not to matter that much.
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Darra Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 10/24/05 7:35pm Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	METAVOID posted: So did Anakin's dream come true of freeing all the slaves indirectly through Leia and Luke destroying Jabba and his minions in ROTJ? Your thoughts? I guess it depends on how the Hutts opperate. Capt. Panaka said that Tatooine was run by the Hutts and they were gangsters. If Jabba was the current "godfather" as it were, then, depending on how many Hutts are still alive, maybe one took over. I agree with the others. It's still a remote planet with respect to the rest of the galaxy, so unless Luke and Leia made it a priorty, slavery there would probably still exist in the New Republic. The question is do they even KNOW there are people being bought and sold on the planet? Leia's situation in Jabba's palace really isn't the same as being a slave that is bought and sold. She's more a POW as it were. As far as I know, they never found out about their father's childhood on Tatooine.
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Siths_Revenge Registered: Jul '04	Date Posted: 10/24/05 7:47pm Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	LAJ_FETT posted: Gardulla the Hutt was a female rival of Jabba's. Gardulla is actually in TPM. When Jabba's seen at the podrace, she can be seen behind him for a minute. In the ROJ radio drama, the Falcon and Luke in his X Wing are flying over Jabba's palace, and they see that Bounty Hunters are raiding it. -----signature----- "We seem to be made to suffer."
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METAVOID Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 10/25/05 7:48am Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	I am sure that at least Luke would have known about slavery somewhat from living on Tattooine. -----signature----- "Are you threatening me, Master Jedi?" "Mister, we deal in lead." "Doh!" "Blaine is a pain"
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skyysoblue Registered: Jul '05	Date Posted: 10/25/05 11:48am Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	Although his name was "Jabba the Hutt", I always assumed that he was just one of several "Hutts" who existed. The only thing that happened after Jabba died is that all of the other Hutts on the planet fought it out for who gets control over his corner of the planet.
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one_armed_scissor_14 Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 10/26/05 7:49pm Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	Yeah, but there was never really a concern established, so we can probably assume that not much, if anything, was done about it. Plus (yeah I know it sounds terrible) they weren't really treated that badly, I mean they were hired for work, not torture.
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Darra Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 10/28/05 7:53pm Subject: RE: Tatooine after Jabba's destruction
	one_armed_scissor_14 posted: Yeah, but there was never really a concern established, so we can probably assume that not much, if anything, was done about it. Plus (yeah I know it sounds terrible) they weren't really treated that badly, I mean they were hired for work, not torture. Slaves aren't "hired" they are forced to work, or do whatever their owners want them to do. They are threatened with terrible consequences if they attempt to leave their masters. Anakin was trying to develop a scanner to find the chip in him and his mother that would detenate if they tried to escape. It is obvious that with the chip they had the apparent freedom to roam ~ to a point. I gathered that the chip would cause them to blow up if they strayed too far.
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