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Master_Jedi_Blair Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 10/30/05 8:22pm Subject: Now with a new anakin face, will they change it in ROTJ???? - Date Edited: 10/31/05 4:11pm (2 edits total) Edited By: General Kenobi
	Yeah i don't know which forum to put this in but, since they took out the old Anakin Ghost at the end of ROTJ. What about the part where Luke unmasked Vader? will they redo the scene and put Hayden instead? If you watch the scene closely you will notice that You will never see Luke and old vader face in the same frame. So I believe it would not be that hard to reshoot the scene. I believe it would connect the new and old trilogy even better the the new ghost anakin. Any thoughts please post. Thanks, Master Blair GK edit: This belongs in the DVD changes thread.
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Padme-Wan_SkyWindu Registered: Jun '02	Date Posted: 10/30/05 8:52pm Subject: RE: Now with a new anakin face, will they change it in ROTJ????
	Interesting, but there are a few reasons why I doubt they would do this: -Anakin appears as he does in Episode III as a Force ghost because that is the way Anakin looked when he ceased to exist in human form (apart from the clothing, which I just chalk up to making his clothes lighter to accentuate his dedication to the light). -Vader is around 40 or so by the time of Episode VI, so having a 20-something actor playing him would perhaps be possible with lots of makeup, but I personally think it's fine as it is. Different actors play Anakin when he's nine and when he's in his twenties, so why not when he's around 40? -If Lucas wanted to make this change, why would he not have gone ahead and done it when changing the Force ghost scene? I suppose he could just change his mind in the time since then, but I would think he would consider the unmasking scene at the same time as he considered the ghost scene, since they both deal with Anakin's appearance at the end of the saga. I realize the first two points sort of seem to contradict one another, but that gets into another issue. Just to try to clarify, I'll say that I feel Anakin "died" when he swore his allegiance to Sidious, and was "reborn" when he killed Sidious, but was no longer exactly the same, because of his "more machine than man" qualities (Vader's mechanical parts aren't connected to the Force). -----signature----- "It's not how everyone views you, but how you view yourself."-Natalie Portman Please help spread epilepsy and seizure first aid awareness and visit www.outoftheshadows.com
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obi-dave_cannoli Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 10/31/05 11:01am Subject: RE: Now with a new anakin face, will they change it in ROTJ????
	i would hope they wouldn't do that. doing that would be the same as re-making the scenes in 4-6 with obi wan and substituting ewan macgregor in place of alec guinness. it could be done, but why not just re-shoot the whole movie? (not implying they should - just proving my point) -----signature----- you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy...we must be cautious...
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Lars_Muul Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 10/31/05 11:08am Subject: RE: Now with a new anakin face, will they change it in ROTJ???? - Date Edited: 10/31/05 11:12am (1 edits total) Edited By: Lars_Muul
	If they'd wanted to do it, they would've done it during the filming of ROTS. That's what they did with the Emperor's hologram. EDIT: This topic belongs in the CT forum, BTW. Shaw is there to stay /LM
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DarthButt Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 10/31/05 2:28pm Subject: RE: Now with a new anakin face, will they change it in ROTJ???? - Date Edited: 10/31/05 2:48pm (1 edits total) Edited By: DarthButt
	Lars_Muul posted: If they'd wanted to do it, they would've done it during the filming of ROTS. That's what they did with the Emperor's hologram. EDIT: This topic belongs in the CT forum, BTW. Shaw is there to stay /LM True, but how much do we know was filmed for future CT edits? I think it's quite possible for it to have been filmed, but the editing wasn't finished yet, or maybe it was kept out because GL wanted us to see Hayden's Anakin burned in ROTS before we saw him unmasked in ROTJ. Who knows. I'm not ruling anything out. That said, this should probably go here: Official Thread: Discussion of Potential Changes to the Classic Trilogy for Future Release, V.2. -DarthButt Forum and thread redirector extraordinaire
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Lars_Muul Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 10/31/05 2:59pm Subject: RE: Now with a new anakin face, will they change it in ROTJ???? - Date Edited: 10/31/05 3:00pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Lars_Muul
	I'm definitely ruling out the possibility of this happening. Lucas changed the ghost for a reason and that reason was not that he just wanted Hayden in the movie instead of Shaw. As I have stated in the thread devoted to the ghost change, I think Lucas is clearly showing us that Anakin's soul(not his mind, just the soul) died in ROTS and then came back to life in ROTJ. That's why it didn't age. The body, on the other hand, did age. Since Anakin's eyebrows were erased and the eye color changed to blue, I think that he looks much more like Hayden's Anakin. There's just no need for further changes to this scene. To replace Shaw with a Hayden that looks just as old as him would be completely pointless. There's no continuity issue here, because the only time we see Hayden in the OT, he looks like the young Anakin. Shaw is the only actor who plays the old Anakin. It was different with Palpatine, because before the DVDs, McDiarmid played Palpatine in all the movies except TESB(and ANH). That was jarring. This is not. If you still think that Lucas would make a change like this just for the sake of changing it, I suggest you reconsider your view of him. Lucas doesn't make changes to his movies unless he has good reasons. He is concerned about continuity on all levels - visual, story, sound, character. He has also made a few tweaks that he always wanted made, for various reasons(then he has changed his mind about certain changes, but that doesn't mean he didn't have a good reason for making the change in the first place). Beyond that, he's not going to disrespect the work of his collaborators by messing with it just for the heck of it. They all put their souls into these films and as an artist, he's constantly aware of that. Lucas - he's the man /LM
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Arwen_Sunrider Registered: Oct '05	Date Posted: 10/31/05 3:01pm Subject: RE: Now with a new anakin face, will they change it in ROTJ???? - Date Edited: 10/31/05 3:02pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Arwen_Sunrider
	Doubtful. Although, I suppose they could, but you have to keep in account that Anakin was severely burned at Mustafar, and a lot of time has passed (Something like 20 years, roughly). In that case, the original Anakin, David Prowse, is still perfect for the part. It was a quick scene, and not something that merits change. However, I did like the change at the ending of ROTJ, where Hayden's face was super imposed, when Anakin stood with Obi-Wan and Yoda, watching Luke and the celebration.
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DarthButt Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Jun '03	Date Posted: 10/31/05 3:08pm Subject: RE: Now with a new anakin face, will they change it in ROTJ????
	Lars_Muul posted: I'm definitely ruling out the possibility of this happening. Lucas changed the ghost for a reason and that reason was not that he just wanted Hayden in the movie instead of Shaw. As I have stated in the thread devoted to the ghost change, I think Lucas is clearly showing us that Anakin's soul(not his mind, just the soul) died in ROTS and then came back to life in ROTJ. That's why it didn't age. The body, on the other hand, did age. Since Anakin's eyebrows were erased and the eye color changed to blue, I think that he looks much more like Hayden's Anakin. There's just no need for further changes to this scene. To replace Shaw with a Hayden that looks just as old as him would be completely pointless. There's no continuity issue here, because the only time we see Hayden in the OT, he looks like the young Anakin. Shaw is the only actor who plays the old Anakin. It was different with Palpatine, because before the DVDs, McDiarmid played Palpatine in all the movies except TESB(and ANH). That was jarring. This is not. If you still think that Lucas would make a change like this just for the sake of changing it, I suggest you reconsider your view of him. Lucas doesn't make changes to his movies unless he has good reasons. He is concerned about continuity on all levels - visual, story, sound, character. He has also made a few tweaks that he always wanted made, for various reasons(then he has changed his mind about certain changes, but that doesn't mean he didn't have a good reason for making the change in the first place). Beyond that, he's not going to disrespect the work of his collaborators by messing with it just for the heck of it. They all put their souls into these films and as an artist, he's constantly aware of that. Lucas - he's the man /LM Tousche Good point.
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Lars_Muul Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 10/31/05 3:38pm Subject: RE: Now with a new anakin face, will they change it in ROTJ????
	Alright! My beard - it's getting longer /LM
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