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LordVader66
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Was Luke Planning On Joining The Imperial Ranks?
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In ANH, Luke tells Owen that he wants to leave early so he can join the academy. What was he refering to? Was it not the Imperial Academy? The Empire had numerous Imperial Academies all over the galaxy which were very well known, training the next generation of stormtroopers and pilots. Yes, it could have been possibly like a vocational academy but with Luke, his character is shown as someone that wants to get off tatooine and is captivated by the galatic civil war going on. Further, wouldn't it be possible that since the Empire controlled the media, the rebellion were protrayed as the bad guys and Luke wanted join the "good guys", the Empire?
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i think yes he wanted to join the empire. i never thought of this, but when he said to Owen, "thats what you said when biggs left". did he think Biggs joined the empires academy, because he clearly didn't. And if they were friends didn't he know his friend joined the rebelion.
nice question.
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Luke didn't agree with the policies of the Galactic Empire, but yes he wanted to join the Imperial Academy so he could be a fighter pilot. Most likely he would have jumped ship like Biggs Darklighter did after earning a comission.
dude4c posted:
i think yes he wanted to join the empire. i never thought of this, but when he said to Owen, "thats what you said when biggs left". did he think Biggs joined the empires academy, because he clearly didn't. And if they were friends didn't he know his friend joined the rebelion.
nice question.
Biggs did join the Imperial Academy. He recieved a commission as first mate of the Rand Ecliptic but then he jumped ship and joined the Rebel Alliance.
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dude4c
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jedimasterbac posted:
Luke didn't agree with the policies of the Galactic Empire, but yes he wanted to join the Imperial Academy so he could be a fighter pilot. Most likely he would have jumped ship like Biggs Darklighter did after earning a comission.
dude4c posted:
i think yes he wanted to join the empire. i never thought of this, but when he said to Owen, "thats what you said when biggs left". did he think Biggs joined the empires academy, because he clearly didn't. And if they were friends didn't he know his friend joined the rebelion.
nice question.
Biggs did join the Imperial Academy. He recieved a commission as first mate of the Rand Ecliptic but then he jumped ship and joined the Rebel Alliance.
WOW, thanks. i didn't know that. cool.
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jedimasterbac posted:
Luke didn't agree with the policies of the Galactic Empire, but yes he wanted to join the Imperial Academy so he could be a fighter pilot. Most likely he would have jumped ship like Biggs Darklighter did after earning a comission.
dude4c posted:
i think yes he wanted to join the empire. i never thought of this, but when he said to Owen, "thats what you said when biggs left". did he think Biggs joined the empires academy, because he clearly didn't. And if they were friends didn't he know his friend joined the rebelion.
nice question.
Biggs did join the Imperial Academy. He recieved a commission as first mate of the Rand Ecliptic but then he jumped ship and joined the Rebel Alliance.
QFT. Like Biggs, he wanted join the Imperial Academy for pilot training, then defect the the Allaince.
You can hear more of this in the SW NPR Radio Drama.
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GeneralCeel
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Its a big galaxy, and we now know from the deleted scenes of Episode III that there were at least 2000 systems that opposed the Emperor. With this in mind, would it not be possible for there to be a "Rebel Academy" somewhere? Remember from Episode I: "The Republic doesn't exist out here." I think it would be logical to claim that in the Original Trilogy there were also places where The Empire didn't have a firm hold. The proof in that is the fact the the Empire had such a hard time finding the rebel bases.
I just can't buy that Luke liked the Empire, and then suddenly after the death Beru and Owen, he instantly changed his mind. I think if this were the case Lucas would have shown him experience more conflict about joining the Rebellion.
And now that I think of it, when Luke, 3PO and R2 are in the garage, Luke sounds very excited when 3PO mentions the rebellion. Luke says "You know of the rebellion against the Empire." To me thats a clear sign that Luke has no love for the Empire at all. That being the case, I can't see him joining an imperial academy.
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GeneralCeel posted:
Its a big galaxy, and we now know from the deleted scenes of Episode III that there were at least 2000 systems that opposed the Emperor. With this in mind, would it not be possible for there to be a "Rebel Academy" somewhere? Remember from Episode I: "The Republic doesn't exist out here." I think it would be logical to claim that in the Original Trilogy there were also places where The Empire didn't have a firm hold. The proof in that is the fact the the Empire had such a hard time finding the rebel bases.
I just can't buy that Luke liked the Empire, and then suddenly after the death Beru and Owen, he instantly changed his mind. I think if this were the case Lucas would have shown him experience more conflict about joining the Rebellion.
And now that I think of it, when Luke, 3PO and R2 are in the garage, Luke sounds very excited when 3PO mentions the rebellion. Luke says "You know of the rebellion against the Empire." To me thats a clear sign that Luke has no love for the Empire at all. That being the case, I can't see him joining an imperial academy.
In the Phantom Menace, the comment is made that the republic doesn't exist on tatoonie, but then clearly in a new hope you have sandtroopers all over the place. that shows me that the emperor had tightened his control over even the most distant systems.
As I pointed out in my first post, i'm sure the Empire spun its fight with the rebellion. Since they controlled the holonet, they could have said anything they wanted about the rebellion. Under this indoctrination, why isn't possible for Luke to join the Empire. When he said "you know of the rebellion against the Empire" he could have been excited just because he wanted to blast the alliance.
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but then clearly in a new hope you have sandtroopers all over the place
The troopers are only there because of a need to find the plans to the Death Star, which has obviously been sent down to the nearest planet as the Tantive IV was attacked.
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GeneralCeel posted:
but then clearly in a new hope you have sandtroopers all over the place
The troopers are only there because of a need to find the plans to the Death Star, which has obviously been sent down to the nearest planet as the Tantive IV was attacked.
As far as i know Tatooine was still controlled by the hutts. I agree with generalceel that they were only there to find the plans.
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LordVader66
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Where they just on there for the plans? I never really thought of it like that but with they whole scene of one of the sandtroopers riding this creature thing (forgot that name) made me think that the sandtroopers had domesticated them over the years to serve their purposes.
EDIT: I just looked up Tatooine on Wookiepedia and it discussed the whole issue. The sandtroopers were only there for Vader. However, there was an imperial female governer of tatooine that objected to Vader sending the sandtroopers because she thought her troops could do better. Vader sent them anyway. So there was an imperial presence on tatooine, it also this governer hated mos eisly (sp?) and stayed away from the place
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Luke: Listen, I can't get involved. I've got work to do. It's not that I like the Empire; I hate it. But there's nothing I can do about it right now... It's all such a long way from here.
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That answers that he hated the Empire, but regardless he still wanted to go to the Imperial Academy. I can point you to countless sources backing that up.
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I can point you to countless sources backing that up
Perhaps, but none of them are actually presented in the movie(s) as far as I can see.
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LordVader66 posted:
Where they just on there for the plans? I never really thought of it like that but with they whole scene of one of the sandtroopers riding this creature thing (forgot that name) made me think that the sandtroopers had domesticated them over the years to serve their purposes.
EDIT: I just looked up Tatooine on Wookiepedia and it discussed the whole issue. The sandtroopers were only there for Vader. However, there was an imperial female governer of tatooine that objected to Vader sending the sandtroopers because she thought her troops could do better. Vader sent them anyway. So there was an imperial presence on tatooine, it also this governer hated mos eisly (sp?) and stayed away from the place
The creatures you speak of are called dewbacks if memory serves correctly.
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GeneralCeel posted:
I can point you to countless sources backing that up
Perhaps, but none of them are actually presented in the movie(s) as far as I can see.
ahem
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Is this not the Classic Trilogy forum?
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