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LordVader66 Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 8/10/06 9:52am Subject: What was Darth Vader's Legacy?
	What was Darth Vader's Legacy? I want to hear what everyone considers Darth Vader's Legacy. I don't want to hear about Anakin Skywalker, no redemption or saving his son. When Darth Vader left the galaxy for good, how was he remembered? If you could sum it up in a sentence or 2, what would it be? I have a couple: 1. Most feared man in the galaxy. 2. Lost potential. -----signature----- Peace in the Middle East
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darthvaderv Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 8/10/06 10:34am Subject: RE: What was Darth Vader's Legacy?
	Well I agree he would be considered the most feared. Whether that's categorised as man I'm unsure as many know nothing about Vader. Palpatine being the sith master was a secret so he inspired fear as head of the galaxy but Vader would of been the one to carry that reputation. I agree if this could be a mere sentance, most feared in the galaxy would be appropriate. A 2meter, heaving breathing menace suited in black with special powers. -----signature----- You are beaten, it is useless to resist!
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That_Jedi_Guy Registered: Jun '05	Date Posted: 8/10/06 11:23am Subject: RE: What was Darth Vader's Legacy?
	I would say the average citizen in the empire barely even knew who Darth Vader was. People in the navy however probabaly knew knothing about his hand in the emporers death, or his redemption. They assumed both he and the emporer perished aboard the DS. In terms of his military legacy, I'd say he was the "Second most feared man in the Galaxy" The emporer takes the cake as first. -----signature----- I look at the floor and I see it needs sweeping
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Master_Starwalker Title: Manager Emeritus Registered: Sep '03	Date Posted: 8/10/06 12:11pm Subject: RE: What was Darth Vader's Legacy?
	1. Either the most feared man in the galaxy or the second most feared 2. Enforcer of the Emperor's Will 3. The Purge 4. Killing "The Negotiator" I know there has to be more but they're not coming to mind. -----signature----- "Imaginary is the future. Always now, even eternity will be." - Yoda "We can never obtain peace in the outer world until we make peace with ourselves." - The 14th Dalai Lama
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Carnage04 Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 8/10/06 10:57pm Subject: RE: What was Darth Vader's Legacy?
	That_Jedi_Guy posted: I would say the average citizen in the empire barely even knew who Darth Vader was. People in the navy however probabaly knew knothing about his hand in the emporers death, or his redemption. They assumed both he and the emporer perished aboard the DS. In terms of his military legacy, I'd say he was the "Second most feared man in the Galaxy" The emporer takes the cake as first. I'm guessing that the average citizen DID know about Vader. They had to keep things in line before the first Death Star and between DS1 and DS2 SOMEHOW. Tossing Vader up on the Holonews constantly would probably be pretty effective. 1. Every bounty hunter knew about Vader because killing him would propel them to fame of galactic wide proportions. 2. Every smuggler must likely knew to avoid Vader at all costs. 3. Every decent sized business owner knew about Vader because he was probably the guy that was sent if proper tribute to the empire was not payed. 4. Every Rebel knew of Vader. 5. Every Faleen, Noghri, and other species that Vader decimated/helped knew of Vader. 6 Anyone in politics knew of Vader. 7. Anyone who watched the news knew of Vader I'm starting to think that Vader was very well known.... He was probably known as "Heartless murdering bastard" or something of the like. If he was in the room, it was probably more like "My great, reasonable, nice, Lord!" Carnage -----signature----- Carnage I Finally decided to use a signature after 3500 posts! 3500 posts * 7 Characters = 24500 keystrokes wasted
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LordVader66 Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 8/11/06 1:08pm Subject: RE: What was Darth Vader's Legacy?
	I agree, Darth Vader was very well known throughtout the galaxy. He was clearly the number two man in the Empire. Palpatine actually stayed out of the spotlight, putting Vader in it even more. Especially with the galatic civil war going on Darth Vader was easily a house hold name. -----signature----- Peace in the Middle East
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OBIJUAN76 Registered: Feb '06	Date Posted: 8/11/06 6:02pm Subject: RE: What was Darth Vader's Legacy? - Date Edited: 8/11/06 6:04pm (1 edits total) Edited By: OBIJUAN76
	LordVader66 posted: I agree, Darth Vader was very well known throughtout the galaxy. He was clearly the number two man in the Empire. Palpatine actually stayed out of the spotlight, putting Vader in it even more. Especially with the galatic civil war going on Darth Vader was easily a house hold name. I agree LordVader! Despite all of the previously mentioned "bad things" that Vader was known for; I would have to say however, that especially after his death, his legacy was reversed to be a man of tremendous redemption... -----signature----- "You broke the bonds and you loosed the chains Carried the cross Of my shame, Of my shame You know I believed it" -U2
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Malikail Registered: Jun '04	Date Posted: 8/11/06 10:08pm Subject: RE: What was Darth Vader's Legacy?
	LordVader66 posted: I agree, Darth Vader was very well known throughtout the galaxy. He was clearly the number two man in the Empire. Palpatine actually stayed out of the spotlight, putting Vader in it even more. Especially with the galatic civil war going on Darth Vader was easily a house hold name. I mostly agree. I'm not so sure he was seen as number 2 in the empire, more like Sidious right hand man is how i see him. what i'm getting at is that in the event sidious died of a heart attack it's not so clear to me Vader becomes emporer, at least not without having to kill a few challengers first! Other than that i agree, and i like Carnage's assesment, especially that line about how differently they'd speak about him when he's there and not there. -----signature----- how much greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope? - G'Kar We wander but in the end there is always a certain peace in being what one is, in being that completely. The condemned man has that joy Lucas and SuperShadow deserve each other
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Carnage04 Registered: Mar '05	Date Posted: 8/11/06 10:44pm Subject: RE: What was Darth Vader's Legacy?
	Malikail posted: LordVader66 posted: I agree, Darth Vader was very well known throughtout the galaxy. He was clearly the number two man in the Empire. Palpatine actually stayed out of the spotlight, putting Vader in it even more. Especially with the galatic civil war going on Darth Vader was easily a house hold name. I mostly agree. I'm not so sure he was seen as number 2 in the empire, more like Sidious right hand man is how i see him. what i'm getting at is that in the event sidious died of a heart attack it's not so clear to me Vader becomes emporer, at least not without having to kill a few challengers first! Other than that i agree, and i like Carnage's assesment, especially that line about how differently they'd speak about him when he's there and not there. Thank you, and I agree that in event of heart attack I do not know if Vader becomes Emperor. I just don't know if he had the type of political ambition or patience necessary. Certainly he would kill all of his advesaries, but Palpatine knew that he had to stroke a few egos and get what he wanted out of people before eventually stabbing them in the back. Vader would NEVER have let Bail Organa and others on the "Delegation of 2,000" to survive a month, much less years. Vader would tire of Maneuvering and just kill people or quite the Emperor gig. Carnage -----signature----- Carnage I Finally decided to use a signature after 3500 posts! 3500 posts * 7 Characters = 24500 keystrokes wasted
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LordVader66 Registered: Aug '05	Date Posted: 8/12/06 12:01pm Subject: RE: What was Darth Vader's Legacy?
	Honestly, I don't see Vader as Emperor. More of a military guy. I never thought that Vader had Palpatine's vision or foresight. Before he discovered Luke, he seemed to be content at Palpatine's side. Then when Luke comes around he gets all ambitious. But really, I honestly think the galaxy would fall apart if Vader became Emperor. And there def would be a power struggle after Palpatine died. His inner circle I'm sure probably all thought they deserved to be Emperor. But Vader would be the favorite because he is the top military guy and he has the Force. I'm surprised though you guys don't see Vader as the clear number 2. It's pretty obvious to me. In my little SW world Tarkin isn't bossing Vader around. But he is the military commander and apprentice of Palpatine. That is enought to tell me he is number 2. -----signature----- Peace in the Middle East
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darthvaderv Registered: May '05	Date Posted: 8/14/06 1:12am Subject: RE: What was Darth Vader's Legacy?
	LordVader66 posted: Honestly, I don't see Vader as Emperor. More of a military guy. I never thought that Vader had Palpatine's vision or foresight. Before he discovered Luke, he seemed to be content at Palpatine's side. Then when Luke comes around he gets all ambitious. But really, I honestly think the galaxy would fall apart if Vader became Emperor. And there def would be a power struggle after Palpatine died. His inner circle I'm sure probably all thought they deserved to be Emperor. But Vader would be the favorite because he is the top military guy and he has the Force. I'm surprised though you guys don't see Vader as the clear number 2. It's pretty obvious to me. In my little SW world Tarkin isn't bossing Vader around. But he is the military commander and apprentice of Palpatine. That is enought to tell me he is number 2. I agree with much of what you say. I think there would be clear problematics within the ranks if Vader was Emperor. He would of been successful over any initial power struggle as he has been used to being in charge of many situations and people will obey him. If not look at the disrespect for him in ANH and parts of ESB. He leaves his mark on people if they want to test him. However he would not of run the galaxy as well as Palpatine. Palpatine has that patience and experience within those polictical fields, although Vader would be accustomed to being around that environment he would not of had that foresight and ability over Palpatine, I'm not saying he couldn't do it, because he could, just not as well as the Emperor IMO. -----signature----- You are beaten, it is useless to resist!
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