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Why didn't Obi-Wan raise and train Luke?
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leia7
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Apr '07
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Date Posted:
12/1/07 4:23pm
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RE: Why didn't Obi-Wan raise and train Luke?
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Star Wars is about archetypes right? So you kind of need the archetype of the wise old mentor that is discovered later, not a father figure.
I think they figured that Vader/Anakin would never return to Tatooine so Luke should be safe with the name. There may have been other Skywalkers in the galaxy too.
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RamRed
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Date Posted:
12/2/07 11:16am
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After the botch job he had done raising Anakin, I don't think I would trust Obi-Wan with Luke. And why is it important that Luke be raised as a Jedi Knight? Can't he be raised as Luke Skywalker, indidividual?
ANYway, by the time of ANH, Luke would have been pretty strong already and probably able to defeat Vader by then.
Which means it was probably a good thing that Obi-Wan had never trained Luke.
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JF_052
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12/8/07 1:03am
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Although I think this mystery has been pretty much solved, I would like to suggest that perhaps Obi-wan really did not expect to evade imperial detection for as long as he did.
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bluesaber70
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12/9/07 3:52am
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My personal feeling is that Obi-Wan has lost faith in himself. So because he felt he failed with Ankin he didn't want to go down that road himself. He needed time to heal and reflect.
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OBIJUAN76
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12/19/07 12:54am
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^^ I agree. I think Obi Wan needed time to pause and reflect the mistakes he made with Anakin.
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jedibri
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12/19/07 3:37am
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I think maybe Obi-Wan was following the will of the force. Meaning he laid low and let Luke have time to grow and mature to the point he could become an asset. Because Obi-Wan saw what happened to his Father when he was taken away at such a young age.
So perhaps Obi-Wan was thinking like Father like Son?
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_Sublime_Skywalker_
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12/19/07 7:10am
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Luke was not raised and trained by Obi Wan for very simple reasons.
1. If Obi Wan, for any reason was ever found, he didn't want Luke to be captured with him. That would just be giving Palpataine an early birthday present.
2. He wanted Luke to have a normal life. To have such a big burden on such a small child is a bad move, he already learned that with Anakin. To have Luke living on a boring moisture farm gave him a craving for adventure, rather than just having it entilted to him.
3. Having both of them together, especially with Luke learning the force, would send out a beacon to Vader and the Emporer, they'd sense them in a minute.
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obi-rob-kenobi4
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12/19/07 1:25pm
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i think maybe GL thought it was kind of self explanatory for people to know that if the kids went with ben and yoda it would be VERY dangerous and the sith would defiantly end up feeling it in the force. those are good and simple enough reasons i would say.
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LordVader66
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12/20/07 4:35am
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It doesn't make much sense why Obiwan (or Yoda) didn't train Luke from birth. All Palpatine says is that he's felt a "great disturbance in the Force". Does that gaurantee that the twins would be found? No. Also, allowing Luke to grow up on Tatooine, like Anakin? A harsh desert planet that allowed Anakin to be filled with hate? Stupid move. And Leia never being trained is also stupid. The Force is a great gift and they allow it to be a wasted talent. Two is better than one. This is just an aspect of the trilogies that don't fit together perfectly and has to be overlooked.
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jedibri
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12/20/07 8:42am
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Again I think both Obi-Wan & Yoda were a bit weary about everything they had just gone through with Anakin and losing a heck of alot of Jedi's. So, I think they were just laying low so prehaps time would erase them from Vader & Sidious's minds.
It seemed to have worked. In ANH when Vader feels Obi-Wan is on the Death Star he seems surprised. "I feel something, something I've not felt since....." I think the laying low made them think they or at least Obi-Wan was dead.
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battlewars
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Date Posted:
12/21/07 12:34am
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The reason Obi Wan or Yoda didn't train Luke and Leia should've been explained in ROTS, in some fashion, all we're left with is SUPPOSITION which sucks!
This should've been explained, I waited since '83 to get the answer.
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CannibalFoodfight
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12/21/07 7:44am
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I feel that it is certainly better that Luke had a normal upbringing. If he had been raised by Yoda or Obi-Wan then he would be set in his ways and the new Jedi Order would never have fixed its old problems. From what I understand, he changed a few things right?
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battlewars
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12/22/07 12:40am
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I just wish some reason why Obi wan and Yoda did or did not do right with Luke and Leia was at least EXPLAINED, period. We get absolutely no reason in ROTS, which is strange since I thought that film was supposed explain, even if that explanation seemed ridiculous, why exactly things happened the way they happened to get us to ANH.
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CannibalFoodfight
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12/22/07 6:10am
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battlewars posted:
I just wish some reason why Obi wan and Yoda did or did not do right with Luke and Leia was at least EXPLAINED, period. We get absolutely no reason in ROTS, which is strange since I thought that film was supposed explain, even if that explanation seemed ridiculous, why exactly things happened the way they happened to get us to ANH.
I think he chose to just tell the story instead of spending 3 hours tying up loose ends. Though I would prefer the latter.
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TwiLekJedi
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Date Posted:
12/22/07 7:34am
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though I really think RotJ explains it sufficiently. They hid the kids from the Emperor. That part is reinforced by RotS. Based on TESB we know it doesn't take the Sith long to sense Jedi being trained. And Palpatine immediately identified Luke as the son of Skywalker, without even knowing any offspring were around. What chance could a 5 year old Luke have, then?
Plenty of reasons in the CT alone
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