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Master_EdgeCrusher
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Why would a sith want democracy? He or she wants power, unlimited power, all control; he scares the people, dominates them. He sends his dark night, to slay anyone who is against him. We are talking about a man greater than Hitler. He wanted to be greatest Dark Lord of the Sith since KOTOR......
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Darth_Laudrup
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To me it seems like Palpatine is a person who mostly loves the planing and watching his plans unfold, but once has won and everything has fallen in to place, the game isn't as interresting anymore.
I believe he loves playing the game, but after he has won he almost looses interrest and just sits back and let's his pawns play the game.
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skyysoblue
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The only indication you get that he was a lousy ruler was that he was so protective of his power that he used extreme force (destroying a planet) to keep it.
Reading between the lines, you can theorize that he regulated all trade routes, trying to control commerce which is why smugglers such as Han Solo were chased down by Imperial ships.
There also did not seem to be too many technological innovations between episode III and IV, suggesting that the new empire really was not prospering
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ISD_Devastator
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Lumiyas_Head posted:
Palpatine wanted peace through the Empire's Stormtroopers, Star Destroyers, and superweapons...not through diplomacy and democracy.
What's there not to like? 
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skyysoblue posted:
There also did not seem to be too many technological innovations between episode III and IV
How much technological innovation can we really expect in such a short time frame?
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Master_Starwalker
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Master_EdgeCrusher posted:
Why would a sith want democracy? He or she wants power, unlimited power, all control; he scares the people, dominates them. He sends his dark night, to slay anyone who is against him. We are talking about a man greater than Hitler. He wanted to be greatest Dark Lord of the Sith since KOTOR......
Oh, he had no reason to want diplomacy because as you basically spell out he's evil.
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Because he was the blatantly evil emperor? It really is as simple as that. He has a heart 1,000 times smaller than the grinch's, he never lifts a finger to help the people because he doesn't care about anyone but himself.
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skyysoblue
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ironically, there have been recent examples where one could at least make the argument that a dictatorship was the only way to establish peace in a country. The leaders of both Iraq and Chechoslovakia were ruthless dictators who suppressed opposition, often violently. However, once these leaders were overthrown, the various different ethnic and religious factions which existed did not embrace democracy but engaged in violent conflicts, including allegations of ethnic cleansing and other great atrocious acts.
so, was the galaxy a hotbox of conflicts between planets ready to explode when the sith came along....it wasn't very hard it seems for the emperor to forment opposition to the republic. the beurocrats had already taken control over the senate
perhaps the Jedi's true failing was not realizing that the old system had run its course
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LordVader66
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Arawn_Fenn posted:
skyysoblue posted:
There also did not seem to be too many technological innovations between episode III and IV
How much technological innovation can we really expect in such a short time frame?
A major techological innovation was the bacta tank. Also, and this is from reading an interview from Lucas, he says that for the OT, he purposely made it look worn because the drain the Imperial war machine placed on the galaxy. Compare that to the PT, where it has the opposite look and feel.
Also, my arguement about feeling that Palpatine should have been more politically enlightened wasn't about democracy. But if his rule would benefit the people. Which it didn't. He held some belief that fear would keep people in line. The disconnect for me is that Palpatine plots everything so carefully, seizes political control for himself, destroys the Jedi, and for what? To sit back and chill? In the OT, it's difficult what little we see of him, but it appears he's handed the all military duties to Vader and is a political recluse.
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Because point blank Sidious was blinded by power. As was Vader.
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Arawn_Fenn posted:
skyysoblue posted:
There also did not seem to be too many technological innovations between episode III and IV
How much technological innovation can we really expect in such a short time frame?
well, from 1987 to now we've gotten the first clones of animals, radical discoveries in how the universe works, cell phones barely the size of your palm, high-speed internet cheap enough that practically everyone can afford it...20 years is a long time for technical innovation.
Bear in mind that it was just 46 or so years from the first powered flight to man breaking the sound barrier, and twenty years after that, we were on the moon.
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The reason there was no major technological breakthroughs was because the SW galaxy had reach a technological plateau. How things looked was only affected by trends. Evidence to this is the KOTOR era where they have virtually the exact same tech as the OT era.
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He was just getting started. He'd only ruled 23 years - he planned to rule for eternity, So that was just a drop in the bucket time wise. Firmly getting in control of everything was his first priority. He was still working on that when the force outwitted him.
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DarthBoba posted:
Arawn_Fenn posted:
skyysoblue posted:
There also did not seem to be too many technological innovations between episode III and IV
How much technological innovation can we really expect in such a short time frame?
well, from 1987 to now we've gotten the first clones of animals, radical discoveries in how the universe works, cell phones barely the size of your palm, high-speed internet cheap enough that practically everyone can afford it...20 years is a long time for technical innovation.
Bear in mind that it was just 46 or so years from the first powered flight to man breaking the sound barrier, and twenty years after that, we were on the moon.
That is just one period of time in the history of our world. How much technological innovation occurred between 420 B.C. and 400 B.C.? As someone else said the technology had plateaued.
What's the \m/ thing to do around here now, praise the Emperor, Empire and the Sith? Yeah Palpatine was a great, benevolent ruler that only cared for his people. Definitely.
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skyysoblue posted:
ironically, there have been recent examples where one could at least make the argument that a dictatorship was the only way to establish peace in a country. The leaders of both Iraq and Chechoslovakia were ruthless dictators who suppressed opposition, often violently. However, once these leaders were overthrown, the various different ethnic and religious factions which existed did not embrace democracy but engaged in violent conflicts, including allegations of ethnic cleansing and other great atrocious acts.
so, was the galaxy a hotbox of conflicts between planets ready to explode when the sith came along....it wasn't very hard it seems for the emperor to forment opposition to the republic. the beurocrats had already taken control over the senate
perhaps the Jedi's true failing was not realizing that the old system had run its course
I knew this argument would come up. The Jedi prevented ths from ever happening. Unfortunatly, we on Earth do not have Jedis to protect us
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